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post Dec 20 2013, 12:31 AM
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post Nov 3 2014, 11:51 PM
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I admit I was off-the-mark with this guy. When we signed him I thought he could really offer that much needed quality, passing and vision we lacked, but I've seen enough of him to say that he offers nothing of the such. His passing and field of vision are very limited. He can pull the simple pass or the obvious long ball, but in terms of creativity he's very, very average.

He totally reminds me of Montolivo. I thought Monto would become the brains of our midfield, but the guy is just an average CM more suited for dirty work than organizing play and making the smart pass. I suppose that's what you get from players you paid nothing for.
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post Nov 4 2014, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 3 2014, 10:51 PM) *
I admit I was off-the-mark with this guy. When we signed him I thought he could really offer that much needed quality, passing and vision we lacked, but I've seen enough of him to say that he offers nothing of the such. His passing and field of vision are very limited. He can pull the simple pass or the obvious long ball, but in terms of creativity he's very, very average.


He had a very bright 3 matches and it deluded all of us into thinking he was suddenly a sensation, but if we really nitpick those displays he didn't exactly produce dominant passing or quality assists. It shows how desperate we are for a hero that Honda with a few goals suddenly went from zero to star in our eyes. He's back to zero.

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He totally reminds me of Montolivo. I thought Monto would become the brains of our midfield, but the guy is just an average CM more suited for dirty work than organizing play and making the smart pass. I suppose that's what you get from players you paid nothing for.


Monto's first season was rather good; while his passing was not always outstanding he did a lot of all-round work in midfield. It made him seem better than he was.

Last season was a disaster - the captaincy didn't help, as I say I think it was one of the outstanding reasons he was so poor. While I'd say 'average CM' might be harsh (I'd argue Poli's closer to that while being a decent wee player anyway) he certainly isn't anything special and he isn't going to fix our current form crisis.

On a positive note he's really good in FIFA. So's Torres. He's my Serie A top scorer after 21 games with 37 goals (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 4 2014, 03:38 PM
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post Nov 4 2014, 04:40 PM
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Do you play FIFA on 'amateur'? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


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post Nov 4 2014, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Nov 4 2014, 04:40 PM) *
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Semi pro. I gave Professional a shot but got destroyed by Porto in my mock-Champions League (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I thought that was the case when you said that about Honda, I can't stand him in FIFA! So slow and bulky!

So far I'm up to World Class, haven't tried legendary

Btw, I think you guys are jumping the gun, as usual with this one, so first we all dismiss him, then he's the second coming after a couple of good games, now he's sh!t again.

The problem is that he's stuck on his wing, and there's not much he can do in terms of vision and passing when he's stuck wide and his only options are usually to pass back to Abate or cross himself.

I personally feel like he's been trying to make the best out of a bad situation through sheer hard work, but Serie A sides figure these types of players out easily, all you have to do is close him down quickly and he's out of the game on that right side, same thing with SES on the opposite side.

I'll reserve my judgment about his skill set until we see him in a position where he can utilise them, a position where he's being properly used.
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- TriniKing_CE   Honda   Dec 20 2013, 12:31 AM
- - X-Offender   De Jong impressed by Honda   Dec 20 2013, 12:39 AM
- - Jack Sparrow   I'm glad he's coming. Not so glad about th...   Dec 20 2013, 05:21 AM
- - kurtsimonw   I just don't rate him. Basically living off hi...   Dec 20 2013, 09:39 AM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 20 2013, 11:39 AM...   Dec 23 2013, 07:58 AM
- - X-Offender   I hope he makes you all eat your words.   Dec 23 2013, 03:32 PM
- - Zed.D   ^^ It'll be really hard for Honda to make us w...   Dec 23 2013, 06:42 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Zed.D @ Dec 23 2013, 08:42 PM) ^^ ...   Dec 23 2013, 07:23 PM
|- - William405   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 23 2013, 09...   Dec 23 2013, 07:30 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (William405 @ Dec 23 2013, 09:30 PM...   Dec 23 2013, 07:57 PM
|- - William405   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 23 2013, 09...   Dec 23 2013, 08:02 PM
- - kurtsimonw   Yeah, Kaka' means signing Honda won't actu...   Dec 23 2013, 09:33 PM
- - X-Offender   QUOTE (William405 @ Dec 23 2013, 10:02 PM...   Dec 23 2013, 11:11 PM
|- - William405   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 24 2013, 01...   Dec 23 2013, 11:15 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (William405 @ Dec 24 2013, 01:15 AM...   Dec 23 2013, 11:18 PM
- - han2503   Unless SES is on the pitch we should avoid a 4-3-1...   Dec 23 2013, 11:19 PM
- - kurtsimonw   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 24 2013, 12...   Dec 24 2013, 12:09 AM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 24 2013, 02:09 AM...   Dec 24 2013, 01:03 AM
|- - kurtsimonw   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 24 2013, 02...   Dec 24 2013, 08:32 AM
- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 23 2013, 09...   Dec 24 2013, 09:52 AM
|- - il_diavolo_mtl   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 24 2013, 05:5...   Jan 4 2014, 09:51 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   Maybe maybe not. I'm inclined to agree with yo...   Dec 24 2013, 01:12 PM
- - X-Offender   QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 24 2013, 10:32 AM...   Dec 24 2013, 02:12 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   What does he bring that we haven't got already...   Dec 24 2013, 04:28 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 24 2013, 09:2...   Dec 24 2013, 04:34 PM
- - X-Offender   But SES and Robinho are strikers, Honda is a midfi...   Dec 24 2013, 04:35 PM
- - acid911   Plus, he brings free kicks. Something that SES an...   Dec 24 2013, 04:36 PM
- - X-Offender   He's here! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...   Jan 4 2014, 08:13 PM
- - Zed.D   I'm a little excited. sham on me, ha?   Jan 4 2014, 10:06 PM
|- - Ry4n   QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jan 5 2014, 02:06 AM) I...   Jan 5 2014, 08:34 AM
|- - Zed.D   QUOTE (Ry4n @ Jan 5 2014, 01:04 PM) yes s...   Jan 5 2014, 09:55 AM
|- - Ry4n   QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jan 5 2014, 01:55 PM) Lat...   Jan 5 2014, 03:29 PM
- - Danny   I won't lie, seeing a new face here has got me...   Jan 4 2014, 11:26 PM
- - Ry4n   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5NvzMgl5Bc   Jan 7 2014, 01:11 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Ry4n @ Jan 7 2014, 01:11 PM) http:...   Jan 7 2014, 03:32 PM
|- - Ry4n   QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 7 2014, 07:32 PM) Ca...   Jan 7 2014, 05:35 PM
- - X-Offender   He really looks like a yakuza boss.   Jan 7 2014, 04:09 PM
- - Ry4n   AC Milan | Keisuke Honda Official Presentation (EN...   Jan 8 2014, 08:19 AM
- - Ry4n   Highlights were : Alot of strange questions from...   Jan 8 2014, 12:59 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (Ry4n @ Jan 8 2014, 11:59 AM) Highl...   Jan 8 2014, 02:56 PM
|- - Ry4n   QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 8 2014, 06:56 PM) Thou...   Jan 8 2014, 03:19 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (Ry4n @ Jan 8 2014, 02:19 PM) Almos...   Jan 8 2014, 03:40 PM
- - han2503   Lol @ Galliani still having a flip phone   Jan 8 2014, 01:29 PM
- - X-Offender   Won't play against Sassuolo either.   Jan 8 2014, 01:34 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 8 2014, 12:3...   Jan 8 2014, 02:55 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 8 2014, 04:55 PM) Uh, ...   Jan 8 2014, 04:10 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 8 2014, 03:1...   Jan 8 2014, 05:46 PM
- - Ry4n   For those that missed it. http://www.youtube.com...   Jan 8 2014, 05:34 PM
- - X-Offender   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL9IkFQInkA I...   Jan 8 2014, 09:59 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 8 2014, 09:5...   Jan 8 2014, 11:14 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Yeah, it's not Cristiano Ronaldo, but it's...   Jan 8 2014, 11:42 PM
- - X-Offender   Yeah, I know that. It's just weird.   Jan 9 2014, 12:27 AM
- - Danny   It's related, slightly, but I wrote a piece on...   Jan 9 2014, 08:38 AM
- - X-Offender   So, his name is spelled Hondá, with accent on ...   Jan 10 2014, 09:07 AM
- - William405   Really excited about this signing. Hopefully not a...   Jan 10 2014, 07:26 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (William405 @ Jan 10 2014, 09:26 PM...   Jan 10 2014, 08:07 PM
- - William405   QUOTE Keisuke Honda assures he is not affected by ...   Apr 5 2014, 11:16 AM
- - Rossoneri7   Its not even been 3 months since he moved, it is o...   Apr 5 2014, 08:56 PM
- - milanbuf88   He hasn't been fantastic so far but I'm wi...   Apr 5 2014, 10:00 PM
- - Linkman   He came on a free, and brings in dough from a mark...   Apr 6 2014, 02:12 AM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (Linkman @ Apr 6 2014, 07:12 AM) He...   Apr 6 2014, 01:31 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (acid911 @ Apr 6 2014, 01:31 PM) Wo...   Apr 6 2014, 04:52 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 6 2014, 09:52 PM) We...   Apr 6 2014, 05:47 PM
|- - TriniKing_CE   QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 6 2014, 12:52 PM) We...   Apr 6 2014, 06:26 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   Yup. He speaks to Zee, Balo and Taraabt in English...   Apr 7 2014, 05:36 AM
- - Danny   There's also the small fact he conducted his p...   Apr 7 2014, 03:49 PM
|- - X-Offender   Do you play FIFA on 'amateur'?   Nov 4 2014, 03:38 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 4 2014, 10:16 PM) I ...   Nov 4 2014, 11:47 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 4 2014, 11:16 PM) Bt...   Nov 5 2014, 12:09 AM
||- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 5 2014, 02:0...   Nov 7 2014, 04:11 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 4 2014, 10:16 PM) I ...   Nov 6 2014, 04:54 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Agreed.   Nov 4 2014, 12:33 AM
- - Danny   PS Torres is an 80 in it (I think, at least 80) so...   Nov 4 2014, 04:53 PM
- - X-Offender   Your FIFA season sounds much more interesting than...   Nov 4 2014, 05:02 PM
- - Danny   It's frustrating when you lobby for the manage...   Nov 5 2014, 12:43 AM
- - X-Offender   Off Topic is forbidden grounds for Han.   Nov 6 2014, 05:48 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ Nov 6 2014, 04:54 PM) PS f...   Nov 6 2014, 06:05 PM
- - X-Offender   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwxMBJmZ-K0 I wan...   Nov 26 2014, 10:26 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   One match? Really?   Nov 26 2014, 11:52 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 26 2014, 11:5...   Nov 27 2014, 12:01 AM
- - Fillipo Simone   Naah, no thanks. I need some harder proof for that...   Nov 27 2014, 12:03 AM
- - X-Offender   You need harder proof? How about the fact that he ...   Nov 27 2014, 12:06 AM
- - Fillipo Simone   Well, he isn't completely useless with us on t...   Nov 27 2014, 12:13 AM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 27 2014, 12:1...   Nov 27 2014, 12:21 AM
- - d'Arc.LP   Honda: "I expect that it will be a difficult ...   Dec 15 2014, 02:18 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Dec 15 2014, 01:18 ...   Dec 16 2014, 04:07 PM
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- - arivanjj   Honda's penalty miss against UAE   Jan 23 2015, 11:06 PM
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|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 23 2015, 11:1...   Jan 25 2015, 03:19 PM
- - kurtsimonw   Haven't watched it either. Japan must be very ...   Jan 23 2015, 11:53 PM
- - arivanjj   to be honest i haven't watched much of the tou...   Jan 23 2015, 11:57 PM
- - han2503   Bumped Honestly don't see where he'll fit...   Aug 8 2016, 06:22 PM
- - X-Offender   I read somewhere that he was asked to give up the ...   Aug 8 2016, 10:18 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Me too. Yes, he's more of a 12.   Aug 8 2016, 10:49 PM
- - han2503   Read that he wants to leave, his agent was suppose...   Aug 9 2016, 06:30 PM
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