[han2503]

It will most likely be a lean summer for us. We'll see what happens with the UEFA ruling as it will determine a lot in terms of strategy

I'm honestly worried about how we'll go about spending money. Mirabelli has made serious errors so far, and with Reina and Strinic coming in, I see even more errors coming in this mercato. He's obviously not fit to be a Sporting Director for a big club, especially a club that's going through the difficulties we're currently in.

[CrazyMilanFan]

Halilovic 22-year-old midfielder is apparently close to signing for us

[Jack Sparrow]

Halilovic 22-year-old midfielder is apparently close to signing for us

On a free or near-free I believe. As back-up to Suso. Also rumours of Immobile saying yes to us. And that Commisio deal is drawing to a positive close.

[CrazyMilanFan]

On a free or near-free I believe. As back-up to Suso. Also rumours of Immobile saying yes to us. And that Commisio deal is drawing to a positive close.

Li wants 30% apparently.Lets see how it goes but we need a quick solution asap

[X-Offender]

On a free or near-free I believe. As back-up to Suso. Also rumours of Immobile saying yes to us. And that Commisio deal is drawing to a positive close.

Nowhere do I read that the deal is coming to a close. Any sources?

[X-Offender]

"As many press releases and social accounts have publicly stated, Rocco B. Commisso is negotiating to buy a controlling stake in AC Milan. Many of these releases and accounts contain statements about Commisso and the negotiations that come from unspecified and inaccurate sources. Until now, Mr. Commisso's team has refrained from making public statements about the state or the subject of the negotiations to preserve an atmosphere favorable to the conclusion of an agreement.

However, Mr. Commisso believes that the time has come for the millions of Milan fans to know exactly how things are. Mr Commisso has worked tirelessly with the assistance of adivsors to formulate and negotiate a beneficial transition for this historic club, its fans, the current ownership and the Milan community. Despite his best efforts and the sincere conviction that a move has been made, it seems that the current owner is not willing to conclude an agreement on acceptable terms in a timely manner.

Given the passion of Mr Commissio for the game of football and of the ties with his native Italy, this situation is extremely unpleasant for him. However, he hopes that the end result of this process will lead to a stable and successful future for this iconic club"

Link

Li and Fassone seriously need to GTFO!

Also, Commisso, where were you last year? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

[TriniKing_CE]

Li and Fassone seriously need to GTFO!

Also, Commisso, where were you last year? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

I know right... My exact thoughts when his name first popped up some weeks back. *sigh*

[han2503]

Hey guys, back from my Milan hiatus! Just needed a break especially with all the drama going on.

CAS has lifted the ban from Europe, so we'll be in the EL next season. A good thing imo, and with the board of directors meeting tomorrow we could finally see some movement in the market.

Hopefully we buy smart. Mirabelli will definately be on a leash this time round, I can only assume Elliot have left both him and Fassone there because we only have a moth left of the transfer window being open

[Forza Milan!]

Have not been on this site for a while. Too depressed (about what has been going on) and busy. A glimmer of hope with some of the recent changes.

How is everyone doing?

[CrazyMilanFan]

Higuin being constantly linked.

Bonucci swap for higuin also bein considered

This post has been edited by CrazyMilanFan: Jul 24 2018, 10:06 AM

[han2503]

Have not been on this site for a while. Too depressed (about what has been going on) and busy. A glimmer of hope with some of the recent changes.

How is everyone doing?

Pretty good, yeah same, Milan has been depressing me.

We're now owned by a vulture fund of all things. The management they're assembling is impressive, and the fact that they've managed to overturn the FFP ruling also gives me hope.

Some updates.

Fassone has been fired, Mirabelli has been reportedly fired today during the morning. Gazidis is the reported front-runner for the CEO position, while Gandini is almost confirmed as the vice-CEO/general manager.

Leonardo is supposedly the man in charge of the technical area, but I don't think if this will mean handling transfers or if an SD will be brought in as well later on.

All I know is that we have to make some moves in the transfer market or we'll get left behind even further than we already are. Inter have strengthened considerably, Roma having been making some smart moves as well. Napoli and especially Lazio are weaker, so it's important that we move smartly with whatever budget we do have

Higuin being constantly linked.

Bonucci swap for higuin also bein considered

Hmm, I've just been reading about this.

What do you guys think? First and foremost about Higuain. Do you think he's what we need? I'd personally prefer Immobile but there's no doubting Higuain's quality, but he has declined a bit and he'll want massive wages not to mention the transfer fee Juve are demanding

As for the swap between him and Bonucci, I don't know. I don't think Bonucci has been all that impressive for us, Musacchio can probably play at a similar level to what Bonucci produced last season. It's just that we were finally seeing a solid partnership being built between him and Romagnoli, and I feel like we'd be only weakening one area to strengthen another.

Not to mention that we still need a pacy winger and a proper mezalla in the midfield to push Bona to the bench

[han2503]

Things are really going down apparently!

Leonardo, Moratta and Paratici are meeting right now. Bonucci will most likely go back to Juve, Higuain and Caldara are the ones being discussed as part of the exchange

I'd take Caldara in a second.

[Forza Milan!]

Pretty good, yeah same, Milan has been depressing me.

We're now owned by a vulture fund of all things. The management they're assembling is impressive, and the fact that they've managed to overturn the FFP ruling also gives me hope.

Some updates.

Fassone has been fired, Mirabelli has been reportedly fired today during the morning. Gazidis is the reported front-runner for the CEO position, while Gandini is almost confirmed as the vice-CEO/general manager.

Leonardo is supposedly the man in charge of the technical area, but I don't think if this will mean handling transfers or if an SD will be brought in as well later on.

All I know is that we have to make some moves in the transfer market or we'll get left behind even further than we already are. Inter have strengthened considerably, Roma having been making some smart moves as well. Napoli and especially Lazio are weaker, so it's important that we move smartly with whatever budget we do have


Hmm, I've just been reading about this.

What do you guys think? First and foremost about Higuain. Do you think he's what we need? I'd personally prefer Immobile but there's no doubting Higuain's quality, but he has declined a bit and he'll want massive wages not to mention the transfer fee Juve are demanding

As for the swap between him and Bonucci, I don't know. I don't think Bonucci has been all that impressive for us, Musacchio can probably play at a similar level to what Bonucci produced last season. It's just that we were finally seeing a solid partnership being built between him and Romagnoli, and I feel like we'd be only weakening one area to strengthen another.

Not to mention that we still need a pacy winger and a proper mezalla in the midfield to push Bona to the bench

I am not convinced by Higuain. Have mixed feelings about Bonucci. Mirabelli is officially out, BTW. (Pity, kind of liked him. Hopefully his replacement will be an improvement.)

[Forza Milan!]

Bonucci also linked with PSG. (That makes more sense to me.)

[Jack Sparrow]

Bonucci also linked with PSG. (That makes more sense to me.)

Apparently Milan are steadfast. We will give Bonucci plus cash in exchange for Caldara. And in case of PSG, the ask might be for Thiago Silva. I'm really happy we're sticking to our guns, but this is definitely hurting our training.

Meanwhile it looks like Leonardo might remove Rino and place Conte in charge. Conte wants to wait till he resolves his current contract situation it seems.

[Forza Milan!]

Apparently Milan are steadfast. We will give Bonucci plus cash in exchange for Caldara. And in case of PSG, the ask might be for Thiago Silva. I'm really happy we're sticking to our guns, but this is definitely hurting our training.

Meanwhile it looks like Leonardo might remove Rino and place Conte in charge. Conte wants to wait till he resolves his current contract situation it seems.

I like Conte. However, Rino has been doing a decent job, so I am not sure this is a grand idea right now. Also, so many changes right before the start of the season, can't be good.

[han2503]

I am not convinced by Higuain. Have mixed feelings about Bonucci. Mirabelli is officially out, BTW. (Pity, kind of liked him. Hopefully his replacement will be an improvement.)

Higuain would definitely be an upgrade over any of our current strikers and he'd guarantee us a decent goal return

I definitely prefer him over Morata who seem to be the other name we're considering.

Let's face it, Bonucci has been no where near the Juve Bonucci with us. Caldara is a massive talent and I like that Leonardo is apparently pushing hard for him.

As for Mirabelli, this was coming from a mile away. Elliot literally cleaned house, and it was needed, the man who spent over 200m and only improved the squad by one point from the previous season was obviously going to be put on the chopping block. Mirabelli made the wrong decisions last summer, he went for quantity over quality. With the money we spen we could have gotten 3 top class players, instead he went for 11 good ones.

Bonucci also linked with PSG. (That makes more sense to me.)

It seems Juve really want him back, they're meeting again today so for them I feel like they're ones who are really pushing for it and it's why we hold the cards.

I think with Juve, they see these next 2 seasons as their last shot at the CL with this cycle. So they need a top CB now not a potential one. Bonucci is perfect for them in that regard. He was always top quality with them, knows the club and players well and has always had a great partnership with Chiellini

Apparently Milan are steadfast. We will give Bonucci plus cash in exchange for Caldara. And in case of PSG, the ask might be for Thiago Silva. I'm really happy we're sticking to our guns, but this is definitely hurting our training.

Meanwhile it looks like Leonardo might remove Rino and place Conte in charge. Conte wants to wait till he resolves his current contract situation it seems.

I like that for once we're the ones holding strong in negotiations instead of being the ones constantly bending over to the likes of Juve.

As for Conte, I don't know what they will do. Look, Rino is a gamble, no matter how much we love the guy, he's a shot in the dark for next season. Conte gives you certain assurances that Rino doesn't and I think for Elliot it's imperative that we play in the CL in 19/20. These guys aren't here to mess around or be sentimental. And let's be honest, a good dose of professionalism is something this club has been crying for for a good long time. So personally, I wouldn't be surprised if Conte is our coach next season

[Jack Sparrow]

So anyone saw the game today? Your thoughts on the game - considering we're much behind our pre-season compared to Man Utd.

[Rossoneri7]

I still consider Elliott fund to be interested in one thing only and that is making the maximum out of selling the club.

That said, they cleared the debt on the club, injected further into the club to keep running costs going and is currently hiring people that once apon a time had fairy tails back here. That is all good and dandy. It could have gone much worse.

The Elliott know the Milan brand has a value, and that is what singer said when asked about Milan. It is in his benifit that he shows the ‘intangible’ value in Milan (ie history), create a value if you will and then spin it off.

This is a very interesting proposition ‘we’ as Milan fans are facing today. It could have gotten (or could get) much worse. Singer took the club at a cost of EUR 280M, he could have dumped it for 450M. But this is no ordinary club, the ‘intangible’ value of the club makes it second only to Madrid. So it makes sense Singer is trying to create value before passing it on to the highest bidder - simple math club was sold from Berlusconi to Li at 750M. Li defaulted on Elliott loan and Elliott own the club today. The value last year when Li took over was 750M. So they are most likely looking at it around the 1bn mark. Pooling a consortium to front that sort of money requires optimistic markets, Singer said three years max. He will financially engineer Milan.

One draw back, God forbid there was a recession or a need for hedge funds to dispose of is liquid assets first and then ineffcient assets like Milan. As they also have an obligation to their Clients, of whom funded the loan to Li.

Unlike Berlusconi who made it a matter of the heart, these people are out there trying to make money out of it.

[han2503]

So anyone saw the game today? Your thoughts on the game - considering we're much behind our pre-season compared to Man Utd.

Nah, I have to work in the morning, I can't stay up for any of these friendlies tbh. Hopefully we arrange one last friendly in Italy before the season starts so we can watch the team at a decent hour and see how prep is going

I still consider Elliott fund to be interested in one thing only and that is making the maximum out of selling the club.

That said, they cleared the debt on the club, injected further into the club to keep running costs going and is currently hiring people that once apon a time had fairy tails back here. That is all good and dandy. It could have gone much worse.

The Elliott know the Milan brand has a value, and that is what singer said when asked about Milan. It is in his benifit that he shows the ‘intangible’ value in Milan (ie history), create a value if you will and then spin it off.

This is a very interesting proposition ‘we’ as Milan fans are facing today. It could have gotten (or could get) much worse. Singer took the club at a cost of EUR 280M, he could have dumped it for 450M. But this is no ordinary club, the ‘intangible’ value of the club makes it second only to Madrid. So it makes sense Singer is trying to create value before passing it on to the highest bidder - simple math club was sold from Berlusconi to Li at 750M. Li defaulted on Elliott loan and Elliott own the club today. The value last year when Li took over was 750M. So they are most likely looking at it around the 1bn mark. Pooling a consortium to front that sort of money requires optimistic markets, Singer said three years max. He will financially engineer Milan.

One draw back, God forbid there was a recession or a need for hedge funds to dispose of is liquid assets first and then ineffcient assets like Milan. As they also have an obligation to their Clients, of whom funded the loan to Li.

Unlike Berlusconi who made it a matter of the heart, these people are out there trying to make money out of it.

I agree with all of this R7

Elliot put me on edge

But that being said, the fat that they have hired and will be hiring people like Leonardo, Gandini, Gazidis and even hopefully Maldini gives me a certain amount of assurance that the previous ownership never provided.

I think this club has been craving a proper management that could run it as a proper business. Silvio only used his heart with Milan when he could benefit politically in return, Galliani as well. He was all about the heart, but he also ran a corrupt ship which was solely focused on enriching his tight circle of agents and club directors. I'm not trying to negate all the great things these two men did for the club, but they're also part of the reason we are where we are now. Owned by a vulture fund essentially. Berlu and Fininvest knew that Li was a fraud. They still took the money and ran. That says it all.

I personally look forward to these next 3 years under Elliot. They're going to ensure that their asset is worth more down the line. And with a football club that can only happen through success on the pitch and a proper business model. They've already taken care of the latter by bringing in the proper people to run this club. The success on the pitch will in-turn follow.

[han2503]

Btw. The Higuain-Caldara-Bonucci triangle is coming to a conclusiong.

Caldara and Bonucci will change teams in a straight swap and Higuain will be coming on a paid load of 18/20m + 38m buyout option

Leonardo is going to be our best signing this summer. Let's see what he can pull off for the midfield and wings now

[han2503]

@Milaneye: The effect of the Caldara-Bonucci-Higuain operation on Milan’s 2018/2019 budget is just €14.5M, could be covered through the sales of Kalinic and Bacca [@SimoneGambino via @CalcioFinanza]


So basically we've barely spent anything and will be bringing in 2 top notch players. This will give Leonardo good leeway for the winger and mid we're still missing

Bernard is also apparently close to joining on a free.


Guys, I know you all have been more than pessimistic about Milan same for me, but I think it's time to get excited about this club again. We finally have someone who knows what they're doing running the show. So if you're reading this, come back to being active users on this forum again

[CrazyMilanFan]

How good is caldara?

[Jack Sparrow]

As with any young Italian CB, he gets compared to Nesta. But he was recognized as one of the stalwarts of the great Atalanta side we're seeing the past two seasons. And at 24 he's a regular starter. Juve bought him and loaned him back immediately, and in a way this is an exciting transfer for us. We're actually build a team with the cream of Italy's backline.

I'm happy for this transfer, because we're getting rid of a dude who now I'm intensely disliking as a posturing prick, in return for a top potential youngster who'll have a chip on his shoulder to prove.

As for getting Higuain, I earnestly pray this will go down as a repeat of when Juve threw out Pippo Inzaghi for the newer shinier Trezeguet.

But that deal is held up over a severance deal (more of a loyalty bonus) from Juve and in other areas over Higuain wanting better terms.

[han2503]

How good is caldara?

He's Romagnoli level good imo.

We have the potential next Azzurri back line with us now. Monster move from Leo. I hope the midfield and winger transfers will be the same in size and potential effect on the team

As with any young Italian CB, he gets compared to Nesta. But he was recognized as one of the stalwarts of the great Atalanta side we're seeing the past two seasons. And at 24 he's a regular starter. Juve bought him and loaned him back immediately, and in a way this is an exciting transfer for us. We're actually build a team with the cream of Italy's backline.

I'm happy for this transfer, because we're getting rid of a dude who now I'm intensely disliking as a posturing prick, in return for a top potential youngster who'll have a chip on his shoulder to prove.

As for getting Higuain, I earnestly pray this will go down as a repeat of when Juve threw out Pippo Inzaghi for the newer shinier Trezeguet.

But that deal is held up over a severance deal (more of a loyalty bonus) from Juve and in other areas over Higuain wanting better terms.

Caldara is a top notch talent. There is a reason why the Juve fans are P!SSED atm.


BREAKING: The Caldara-Bonucci-Higuain has been finalized between Milan and Juventus. Caldara and Higuain will join Milan while Bonucci will return to Juventus

It's done. Medicals tomorrow and then they sign


Not because I'm biased but for me, we've won this for both the short terms as well as the long term. Bonucci will only minimally improve Juve imo. Benatia is not that much worse than him, and if they get the Bonucci that played for us, they wouldn't be improving anything

As for us. We got a CB that's touted as one of the best talents in Italian football. If him and Romagnoli can form a partnership, we could look at a potential pairing for the next decade

As for Higuain, he's world class, and that's all there is to it imo. We haven't had someone of his caliber on our team since Ibra. He's going to be our difference maker, he's what we craved last yer, a 20+ goal striker


If Leonardo can make the right moves in midfield and on the wing, we can challenge for 4th this year. First and second will be going to Juve and Inter imo, we'll have to fight it out with Roma and Napoli for the last two spots

[CrazyMilanFan]

Why would juve be doing such a deal. But lets hope it goes through because looks like a steal for us

[han2503]

Why would juve be doing such a deal. But lets hope it goes through because looks like a steal for us

I think the reasoning for them is that they have a very small window to go all out for the CL, Cristiano can only give them max 2 to 3 years of top level football and this is their shot with this cycle. So they gambled Caldara to bring Bonucci back.

Higuain was their choice, they pushed us to get him in the deal because they need his wages off the books, plus Ronaldo will be their CF next season, having a striker like Higuain on the bench makes absolutely no sense for them.

Leonardo played a master stroke imo. As soon as Bonucci requested the move and he saw that Juve were also keen on it, he demanded Caldara. Caldara and his agent pushed for the move as well so he held all the cards. Juve wanted us to take Higuain as well in the deal so Leonardo made sure that we took him on our terms. That's why it a loan + option to buy deal for a total of 54m which will only hit our balance sheet for around 14.5m this summer

[William405]

But is it official for Bonucci? I would have liked to have them both

[TriniKing_CE]

I definitely agree with Han. On paper we are definitely the winners with the rumored deals (transfers & wages considered). Gonzo is a top player and a proven striker at that in Italy. He's definitely our best attacking (if not overall) signing since Ibra.

Caldara is an exciting capture as well. A talented & promising Italian defender that can hopefully form a great partnership with Romagnoli.

(IMG:https://preview.ibb.co/i8y2Oz/Screenshot_20180801_215350_01.jpg)

Higuain has just landed in Milan, and will undergo his medical tomorrow, while Caldara is expected to arrive tomorrow.


I'm hopeful that Milan can be on the rise. Slowly but surely at that... I'm not trying to get ahead of myself. But seeing the arrival of two players who should significantly add to our lineup is exciting.

On the management end we're also seeing alot of rumors regarding reshuffles and arrivals for Executive positions.

I'm excited & hopeful for the future of Milan, although I'd be in a better position to make such a statement when the transfer market is actually closed.

This post has been edited by TriniKing_CE: Aug 2 2018, 02:59 AM

[han2503]

But is it official for Bonucci? I would have liked to have them both

Practically, all players in question have undergone their medicals today, and without Bonucci's push for an exit this deal wouldn't have been possible for us. Bonucci has never really fit into this team imo anyway so it won't be a huge miss

I definitely agree with Han. On paper we are definitely the winners with the rumored deals (transfers & wages considered). Gonzo is a top player and a proven striker at that in Italy. He's definitely our best attacking (if not overall) signing since Ibra.

Caldara is an exciting capture as well. A talented & promising Italian defender that can hopefully form a great partnership with Romagnoli.

(IMG:https://preview.ibb.co/i8y2Oz/Screenshot_20180801_215350_01.jpg)

Higuain has just landed in Milan, and will undergo his medical tomorrow, while Caldara is expected to arrive tomorrow.


I'm hopeful that Milan can be on the rise. Slowly but surely at that... I'm not trying to get ahead of myself. But seeing the arrival of two players who should significantly add to our lineup is exciting.

On the management end we're also seeing alot of rumors regarding reshuffles and arrivals for Executive positions.

I'm excited & hopeful for the future of Milan, although I'd be in a better position to make such a statement when the transfer market is actually closed.

Agreed.

I wouldn't say we're going to be challenging for the CL spot for sure. But with 2 -3 more smart moves from Leonardo we could get there. The midfield signing is the one that has to be spot on imo, We can't go into another season with Jack being an undisputed starter there

[CrazyMilanFan]

We need to sell kalanic asap for 15 million or whatever..

[William405]

Worst signing ever. Kalanic. Can you imagine, he refused to get on for Croatia? Then, they go on to the finals. He really likes taking bad decisions.. He will be shown the way out for sure.

What are we waiting for, we should get Conte in already.

[CrazyMilanFan]

Btw what formation will be playing? I suppose it will be 4 at back.. Main question would be 2 strikers or 3 as we only have one pure winger (suso).

[X-Offender]

Btw what formation will be playing? I suppose it will be 4 at back.. Main question would be 2 strikers or 3 as we only have one pure winger (suso).

We need a left winger at all cost. Hakan will play either as a mezz’ala in the 4-3-3 or as AM in the 4-2-3-1 (my favorite).

[CrazyMilanFan]

I like that 4-2-3-1 as well. If we manage to give service to higuin goals will surely come.

We still have bacca as well. We need to sell kalanic and him that will raise 30 million and invest that in midfield.

[CrazyMilanFan]

I like that 4-2-3-1 as well. If we manage to give service to higuin goals will surely come.

We still have bacca as well. We need to sell kalanic and him that will raise 30 million and invest that in midfield.

[CrazyMilanFan]

Tuttosport linking us with kovacic. Wouldn't mind that at all.

[William405]

Maldini back <3

[CrazyMilanFan]

Good going.. It simply brings in a positive vibe which at this point is key

[CrazyMilanFan]

Bernard being linked for the LW position on a free transfer. Chelsea are also interested in him. Anyone knows if he is any good?

[amancik]

Any thoughts on Milinkovic-Savic. Is he any good? Worth close to 100 million?

[William405]

Any thoughts on Milinkovic-Savic. Is he any good? Worth close to 100 million?

Leo said we cannot buy him :/

[Forza Milan!]

Looks like Kalinic may be out, headed to Atletico for 18-20M. If this happens ... good riddance!

(Possibly the most questionable deals from last summer. Turned out to be a complete waste of money, AFAIAC.)

[X-Offender]

Bernard to Everton seeme like a done deal. Too bad, he could have been a decent singing. Perhaps Leo has someone else in mind?

[Jack Sparrow]

Looks like Kalinic may be out, headed to Atletico for 18-20M. If this happens ... good riddance!

(Possibly the most questionable deals from last summer. Turned out to be a complete waste of money, AFAIAC.)

It is now reported that he is going for 15 MM. Looks like we're giving a huge discount. Rumours were Atleti were offering 20 MM with option to buy or 15 MM with obligation to buy. We probably wanted to get rid of his wages too. But in general, it's cool. We need to let go of him ASAP.

Another report is that we might offload Andre Silva to Sevilla.

[CrazyMilanFan]

I would first sell bacca and possibly give silva another season.

[X-Offender]

I’m puzzled of no LFW rumors lately. How does Gattuso intend to play? I just hope he’s not planinng on playing Hakan in that position again.

[han2503]

Worst signing ever. Kalanic. Can you imagine, he refused to get on for Croatia? Then, they go on to the finals. He really likes taking bad decisions.. He will be shown the way out for sure.

What are we waiting for, we should get Conte in already.

Conte would be a dream, I think Rino is in over his head. If we start badly, which is possible with the fixture list we've been saddled with, then this will be another season down the drain for us

The only thing that makes me pause about Conte is the 3 man back-line system he uses. It would make us have to go in for another CB and possibly a proper WB as Rodriguez cannot play that position

Btw what formation will be playing? I suppose it will be 4 at back.. Main question would be 2 strikers or 3 as we only have one pure winger (suso).

4-3-3 as long as Rino is the man at the helm

We need a left winger at all cost. Hakan will play either as a mezz’ala in the 4-3-3 or as AM in the 4-2-3-1 (my favorite).

Bernard was a golden opportunity which Leo passed up, I read he was getting 6m per year at Everton, which is probably why Leo passed up on him, he's a decent winger but not worth that. These EPL clubs are making things hard on everyone. Max Meyer is going to get somthing like 8m at Crystal Palace FFS! We simply cannot match those kind of salaries unless they're a top top player, we won't give anyone that kind of money

Most rumours lately are about mids to replace Bona in the starting 11, this makes me think Hakan will keep his position if we fail to bring in a good winger. And honestly, I read a lot of bad stuff about his performances in the midfield, he's definitely better playing further forward on the pitch. I think it's easy to say, let's just move him into the midfield, but I don't think he'd pull that off effectively, and right now, if you ask me to make a choice between getting a top mid or a top winger, I'd go for the midfielder. Hakan can play that position, and he was very good there last season. Bona has been a nightmare in midfield, having someone in there who can bring the ball forward and can make good passing decisions will make the difference for us, much more than a winger

I like that 4-2-3-1 as well. If we manage to give service to higuin goals will surely come.

We still have bacca as well. We need to sell kalanic and him that will raise 30 million and invest that in midfield.

Kalinic is gone, 15m I'm reading. Bacca and Silva could e next. Let's hope Leo can get these done quick. We also need to move Monto and probably Abate on as well. All have big wages and aren't even useful as subs anymore for us.

Any thoughts on Milinkovic-Savic. Is he any good? Worth close to 100 million?

He'd be a dream signing, but it's impossible for us to get him I'm afraid. Rabiot and Kovacic would be a little more realistic, but still very hard to get. Hopefully we don't settle for someone like Baselli, who we were linked to yesterday, he won't improve our team and will be another body we'd have to move along in a short time from now

Bernard to Everton seeme like a done deal. Too bad, he could have been a decent singing. Perhaps Leo has someone else in mind?

Let's hope so, time it ticking quickly now, we have less than 2 weeks to make some crucial sales (Bacca, Silva, Monto, Antonelli) and bring in the winger and midfielder we need.

My only worry here is that we're going into another season with EL and a thin squad when it comes to wingers and mids

We have no vice-Suso, Borini is the only alternative for the LW, we have no one who could rotate with Kessie, Biglia is injury prone and Monto is finished while Locatelli for me has regressed, he needs to be sent to a team like Atalanta on loan, where he could surely learn and improve, and currently, Bona is the only player for that LCM spot.

So let's assume we bring in a RW and a CM, we could have a bit more depth and different options for tactical switches as Hakan and Bona are versatile but still no one to cover Kessie and a real threat of having to start with Borini if Suso and the new winger (if he comes) get injured

It is now reported that he is going for 15 MM. Looks like we're giving a huge discount. Rumours were Atleti were offering 20 MM with option to buy or 15 MM with obligation to buy. We probably wanted to get rid of his wages too. But in general, it's cool. We need to let go of him ASAP.

Another report is that we might offload Andre Silva to Sevilla.

Getting even 15m for him is already a miracle imo, Leo managed to pull off another great deal imo. As long as it's a permanent transfer that is all that matters. After the year he had with us and then that World Cup debacle, I'm amazed we could still get that much for him, add to that the high salary he was given being taken off the books, and it's a win win for us

Sevilla want Bacca last I heard, they don't want to pay 15m for him, I doubt they can afford to pay the 30m being quoted that we want for Silva

I would first sell bacca and possibly give silva another season.

Silva cannot stay here imo, With Higuain there is no question who the starter is this season. Cutrone will also find it hard to get a look in, we can't have both of them sitting on the bench wasting away.

I would like to see what he could do in Serie A if given the proper chances. We should send him on loan, but if a good offer comes in this summer, then we should cut our losses and invest that money where we really need it

I’m puzzled of no LFW rumors lately. How does Gattuso intend to play? I just hope he’s not planinng on playing Hakan in that position again.

Definitely 4-3-3. We'll see what happens. I read that they're focusing on players sales right now. I honestly don't see that many wingers available on the market, it could be difficult for us to sign someone who could make a real impact for us. I'd personally rather see them concentrate more heavily on signing a top mid tbh

[Forza Milan!]

I would first sell bacca and possibly give silva another season.

Agreed. Except Bacca is not making it easy for us ...

[han2503]

Agreed. Except Bacca is not making it easy for us ...

It's not Bacca really, we want a certain amount, Villareal are no meeting our demands, personally, I think we should just accept whatever they're offering for him, pocket the 10m or so that's being said they want to pay and take him off the books. It's a still a win for us as it's another big wage we do not have to pay for a player who's simply not doing anything to be worthy of earning it

[Forza Milan!]

It's not Bacca really, we want a certain amount, Villareal are no meeting our demands,

Bacca had good offers from Turkey or China (good for him and good for Milan), but he insists on playing in Spain.

personally, I think we should just accept whatever they're offering for him, pocket the 10m or so that's being said they want to pay and take him off the books. It's a still a win for us as it's another big wage we do not have to pay for a player who's simply not doing anything to be worthy of earning it

I kind of agree, except I believe we lost money selling Kalinic, and with Villareal's offer we are going to be losing money on Bacca as well. As I understand it, these losses will not help with the FFP situation.

That's probably why Milan is trying to squeeze a little more money out of Bacca. Kalinic was a hopeless situation (given his performance over his last year, WC in particular), so they probably were happy to get 15M out of it.

[han2503]

Bacca had good offers from Turkey or China (good for him and good for Milan), but he insists on playing in Spain.


I kind of agree, except I believe we lost money selling Kalinic, and with Villareal's offer we are going to be losing money on Bacca as well. As I understand it, these losses will not help with the FFP situation.

That's probably why Milan is trying to squeeze a little more money out of Bacca. Kalinic was a hopeless situation (given his performance over his last year, WC in particular), so they probably were happy to get 15M out of it.

Well you can't force the player, I wouldn't want to go to either of those countries either. He wants to play in Spain, I say cut your losses and sell him to Villareal.

In the long run, we'd lose more by keeping them on the books anyway. I'd prefer to get some sort of transfer fee for them rather than having them sit on our bench and draining our resources



BREAKING: Milan going forward for Bakayoko from Chelsea trying to sign him on loan with option to buy, according to @DiMarzio

Milan are in advanced negotiations with Chelsea for midfielder Bakayoko. Milan will look to close a deal on loan with option to buy. The midfielder has not had much playing time at Chelsea. [Sky]


According to Sky Italia, Milan’s dream signing in the midfield is Sergej Milinkovic-Savic. It remains a very difficult deal

Let's see, both would raise the level in our midfield significantly. Bakayoko was a complete donkey at Chelsea, but his performances in the CL with Monaco are still memorable to me. So the ability is there, probably not a good fit at Chelsea


Milinkovic seems surreal, if we sign him... Nope, not going there

[CrazyMilanFan]

Draxler- Ricardo Rodriguez swap being mentioned on Football-italia. Wonder why we have not considered Draxler earlier for wing

[Forza Milan!]

Well you can't force the player, I wouldn't want to go to either of those countries either. He wants to play in Spain, I say cut your losses and sell him to Villareal.

How about England? Would you refuse to go to EPL? (link)

[CrazyMilanFan]

Kalanic sold finally

[han2503]

How about England? Would you refuse to go to EPL? (link)

Haven't read anywhere else that EPL clubs want him though. Either way, we should just make the concession and seel him. He earns close to 8m gross. We can't have that kind of burden on the books for a player who will not even play this season

[Forza Milan!]

Haven't read anywhere else that EPL clubs want him though. Either way, we should just make the concession and seel him. He earns close to 8m gross. We can't have that kind of burden on the books for a player who will not even play this season

The article pretty much agrees with you. It suggests that even if we sell him at a loss on the books, we should do it anyway and get rid of the salary.

OTOH, it looks like Silva may be on his way out (link). If so, I wonder if we should keep Bacca.

[Jack Sparrow]

Lucci, who is the agent for both Suso and Bertolacci in Casa Milan. He was in Roma HQ yesterday. Unsure if he's come in with an official offer for Suso. Suso renewed recently and we don't know if it is still a 40 MM release clause.

We're linked to Draxler. Also rumours Bacca might go to Villareal for cash plus Castillejo.

[Forza Milan!]

Lucci, who is the agent for both Suso and Bertolacci in Casa Milan. He was in Roma HQ yesterday. Unsure if he's come in with an official offer for Suso. Suso renewed recently and we don't know if it is still a 40 MM release clause.

We're linked to Draxler. Also rumours Bacca might go to Villareal for cash plus Castillejo.

Apparently, Suso wants more money

[han2503]

BREAKING: Andre Silva to Sevilla is a done deal, all that is missing is the medical to make it official, according to Sky.

Sky are reporting Andre Silva will join Sevilla on a dry loan.

Luca Antonelli will join Empoli, according to @DiMarzio.

Milan are heading towards terminating Montolivo’s contract. They are negotiating the severence pay. [Libero]

Milan and Sassuolo have found an agreement on the price of Locatelli at €12m + bonuses, but there’s still no agreement on the buy-back option for Milan that would be available for Milan for the first two years. They will try to close the deal by next week. [Gazzetta dello Sport]

Bakayoko should join Milan on a paid loan of €5m with the option to buy for €30m. Milan hope to divide his wages with Chelsea. [Gazzetta dello Sport]


Looks like a lot of things will be going down in the next couple of days, especially when it comes to outgoing players. I can only assume that this mass exodus is to free up the wage bill and some cash to try to make some final incoming transfers.

Let's hope we get that CM upgrade and a LW with some pace because this squad, even with Higuain, still looks like it won't be enough to get that 4th spot

[CrazyMilanFan]

Bakayoko will be the cm i suppose. So LW will be the main target

[han2503]

Bakayoko will be the cm i suppose. So LW will be the main target

Let's hope not. He's not what we need in midfield. He's more similar to Kessie than anything else. We need a creator, a mezzalla basically. I'd rather we spend big on someone like Rabiot than a winger at this point tbh

[han2503]

BREAKING: Locatelli to Sassuolo is a done deal. He will take his medical on Monday and then sign the contract, according to @DiMarzio.

Locatelli will join Sassuolo on a permanent transfer, but Milan will have a buy-back option in the deal. The deal will be closed on Monday. He will not travel with the rest of the team to Madrid. [@DiMarzio]


Looks like Loca is out as well. I'd have preferred a loan, but the buy-back is also a good solution. He was stagnating with us, so this will be good for him. If he impresses, we can buy him back

I can't imagine this mass exodus is going on without any plans to bring in at least 3 more players. Bertolacci will most likely be sold to Genoa as well while they're working on rescinding Monto's contract. We're not going into a season with EL with a threadbare squad. Something is definitely brewing. I think 3 new players will com in; Bakayoko, new CM (to replace Bona in the starting 11) and a LW

[Forza Milan!]

Anyone following the RM match?

[TriniKing_CE]

Anyone following the RM match?

I did. We lost 3-1.
We didn't look too bad, particularly in the first half.
Also Higuain's goal was class.

[CrazyMilanFan]

There was an article on milannews which was saying that we could offer monty and bona to Lazio plus cash from possible gigi sale to psg to buy SMS

[Forza Milan!]

Bakayoko apparently a done deal (link). Let's hope he gets back to the contribution level from his days at Monaco.

[Forza Milan!]

There was an article on milannews which was saying that we could offer monty and bona to Lazio plus cash from possible gigi sale to psg to buy SMS

Why would PSG get another GK (when they already have two competing for the top spot)? And why would anyone want Monto? But if it happens ...

[han2503]

Why would PSG get another GK (when they already have two competing for the top spot)? And why would anyone want Monto? But if it happens ...

I think the SMS link is just wishful thinking at this point. Lazio will not sell this late in the summer, and we can't give them Bona as it will create rotation problems for us. Bona is a versatile player, I doubt we'd let him go considering we have 3 competitions this season

The best we can hope for now is a LW and hopefully another midfield addition who could inject some creativity into the team

Bakayoko is a shrewd move, but we need something more still in that midfield. I'm hoping Leo can still pull something out of the hat still

[han2503]

BREAKING:

SKY, @MilanNewsit & @AntoVitiello all report that Bakayoko to Milan is a done deal!

The former Chelsea midfielder will join Milan on loan with an option to buy set at €30m.

Medical tests are set for tomorrow.

[CrazyMilanFan]

Samu Castillejo bein linked with bacca swap plus 18 million. He is a LW anyone knows how good is he?

[han2503]

Samu Castillejo bein linked with bacca swap plus 18 million. He is a LW anyone knows how good is he?

I read he's very similar to Suso. Which is defo not what we need. We need someone who's direct and has some serious pace

[Forza Milan!]

Still linked with Milinkovic-Savic

[CrazyMilanFan]

to this point out net spending would have been nil I suppose?

[han2503]

to this point out net spending would have been nil I suppose?

Pretty much.

Still. I think Milinkovic-Savic is a pipe dream. We can't afford the kind of figure Lotito wants for him.

[CrazyMilanFan]

Ni buyback clause in Locatelli transfer as per football italia

[Forza Milan!]

Still. I think Milinkovic-Savic is a pipe dream. We can't afford the kind of figure Lotito wants for him.

You are probably right. But ... when I first heard of the Bonucci / Caldara + Higuain deal, I thought that was never gonna happen, yet ...

[William405]

Ni buyback clause in Locatelli transfer as per football italia

I think it is just a sacrifice we have to take at the moment. Selling players without thinking if they might be stars in future. We just need money to stick by UEFA regulations at the moment, and to be able to carry our transactions.

No point for Sassuolo to have a buy back clause. As if he explodes, they will want to sell him for more. This is why they payed the 12 million imo.

[Forza Milan!]

Looks like we are getting Castillejo in exchange for Bacca + 15M (link)

[William405]

Hmm, he looks like a good replacement. But, doesn't impress me that much.

Gerard Deulofeu would have suited us much more. And, he went to Watford at a much cheaper price. :/

[X-Offender]

Castielljo doesn't convince me. We should have signed Bernard. How come we let him go to Everton?

[X-Offender]

I think it is just a sacrifice we have to take at the moment. Selling players without thinking if they might be stars in future. We just need money to stick by UEFA regulations at the moment, and to be able to carry our transactions.

No point for Sassuolo to have a buy back clause. As if he explodes, they will want to sell him for more. This is why they payed the 12 million imo.

Sacrifice? Locatelli was a burden. Good riddance.

[William405]

Sacrifice? Locatelli was a burden. Good riddance.

Well, he wasn't doing well. I wouldn't say he was a burden. But, he was a prospect. Though, I agree not the biggest talent to lose.

[William405]

Castielljo doesn't convince me. We should have signed Bernard. How come we let him go to Everton?

No idea. :/

[William405]

Football-italia.net

Bakayoko continues Milan medical

Tiemoue Bakayoko is taking the second part of his Milan medical this morning, ahead of signing from Chelsea.

The midfielder is set to join on loan with an option to buy, and was at Casa Milan yesterday to sign the paperwork.

No official announcement was made yesterday, and Gianluca Di Marzio’s website reports that Bakayoko is continuing his medicals today.

It’s not thought there is any issue though, and he should be announced as a Rossoneri player in the coming hours.

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Should be announced soon. Seems a good deal since it's a loan, but we need much more in midfield.

This post has been edited by William405: Aug 14 2018, 12:10 PM

[William405]

Our squad for 2018/2019:

Goalkeepers:

1-Gianluigi Donnarumma 19yrs
2-Pepe Reina 35yrs
3-Antonio Donnarumma 28yrs
4-Alessandro Plizzari 18yrs
5-Gabriel 25yrs

Defenders:

Centerbacks:
1-Alessio Romagnoli 23yrs
2-Mattia Caldara 24yrs
3-Mateo Musacchio 27yrs
4-Cristián Zapata 31yrs
5-Stefan Simic 23yrs
6-Matteo Gabbia 18yrs

Left-back:
1-Ricardo Rodríguez 25yrs
2-Ivan Strinic 31yrs

Right-back:
1-Ignazio Abate 31yrs
2-Davide Calabria 21yrs
3-Andrea Conti 24yrs

Midfielders:

1-Lucas Biglia 33yrs
2-Franck Kessie 21yrs
3-Giacomo Bonaventura 28yrs
4-Tiemoue Bakayoko 23yrs
5-Riccardo Montolivo 32yrs
6-Andrea Bertolacci 27yrs
7-Alen Halilovic 22yrs
8-Jose Mauri 22yrs

Attackers:

Wingers:
1-Hakan Calhanoglu 24yrs
2-Suso 24yrs
2-Fabio Borini 27yrs
4-Samu Castillejo 23yrs

Strikers:
1-Gonzalo Higauin 30yrs
2-Patrick Cutrone 20yrs


Average age of squad: 24.5

Players to offload: Gabriel, Montolivo, Bertolacci, Mauri

Holes to fill: Tell me what you think! I think our squad overall is well covered. But, we lack quality in our starting XI. Specially, in the midfield area.

Starting formation: 4-3-3

Donnarumma
Conti-Romagnoli-Caldara-Rodriguez
Biglia-Kessie-Bonaventura
Suso-Higuain-Hakan

This post has been edited by William405: Aug 14 2018, 03:30 PM

[milanbuf88]

Castielljo doesn't convince me. We should have signed Bernard. How come we let him go to Everton?

Bernard got a crazy high salary from Everton. Something like 6 million. He’s not worth that much.

[milanbuf88]

Starting formation: 4-3-3

Donnarumma
Rodriguez-Romagnoli-Caldara-Abate
Biglia-Kessie-Bonaventura
Suso-Higuain-Hakan

I think you have Rodriguez and Abate on the wrong sides. Also I don’t think Abate will start. I’d say Calabria to start the season but I wouldn’t be shocked if Conti overtakes him (assuming he’s healthy). Abate will probably be third choice and I’d be fine with seeing him leave in the winter. I think he was rumored to be interested in going to MLS.

[han2503]

Castielljo doesn't convince me. We should have signed Bernard. How come we let him go to Everton?

Him and his agen wanted a huge wage and extortionate fees. That's why

He's earning 6m NET per year at Everton, we'd never pay that kind of money unless it was a top class player.

Castillejo looks like a slightly faster version of Suso.

Don't know, I feel like we've done all the business we'll do this summer and Bakayoko and Castillejo were our last signings. We still have a gaping hole in our midfield imo. Rino worries me, as I can see him fielding Bakayoko and Kessie on either side of Biglia, which would be horrifyingly bad

[William405]

I think you have Rodriguez and Abate on the wrong sides. Also I don’t think Abate will start. I’d say Calabria to start the season but I wouldn’t be shocked if Conti overtakes him (assuming he’s healthy). Abate will probably be third choice and I’d be fine with seeing him leave in the winter. I think he was rumored to be interested in going to MLS.

Fixed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[William405]

Him and his agen wanted a huge wage and extortionate fees. That's why

He's earning 6m NET per year at Everton, we'd never pay that kind of money unless it was a top class player.

Castillejo looks like a slightly faster version of Suso.

Don't know, I feel like we've done all the business we'll do this summer and Bakayoko and Castillejo were our last signings. We still have a gaping hole in our midfield imo. Rino worries me, as I can see him fielding Bakayoko and Kessie on either side of Biglia, which would be horrifyingly bad

I agree about the midfield. We need someone who can control the game a la Modric. Would be nice if we could pay big cash on a good midfielder. Also, don't you think we're lacking one striker? Higauin and Cutrone seems a bit thin.

Are you satisified with the wingers? Suso/Hakan is not a bad combo to have. They will only improve with time, and having Higuain there could build a nice trident.

[maldini03]

Yeah, I agree that the midfield is a little sparse. I was really hoping for the mid from Real - Ceballos. For me, he would fit in really well in our midfield and would provide a creative element we haven't had in a long time. Also, he would make losing Loca a bit easier to take. I would be over the moon to get either him or Barella from Cagliari as a young mid to bring some creativity.

I had such high hopes for him - really thought he would be one to take the next step but his game never evolved the way I expected it to. Does anyone have a good idea of the Primavera - who is the next kid to take a step up? I feel like we have had a youngster pop up once a year into the first team for the past 5 or so years. (De Sciglio, Donnaruma, Calabria, Locatelli, Cutrone) Just wondering if anyone has an idea of who could possibly make the jump this year.

[X-Offender]

I agree about the midfield. We need someone who can control the game a la Modric. Would be nice if we could pay big cash on a good midfielder. Also, don't you think we're lacking one striker? Higauin and Cutrone seems a bit thin.

Are you satisified with the wingers? Suso/Hakan is not a bad combo to have. They will only improve with time, and having Higuain there could build a nice trident.

The problem is that Hakan is not a winger. He's a midfielder, plain and simple. I can only see him as trequartista in a hypothetical 4-2-3-1 or as CM in Gattuso's 4-3-3. But having a midfield of three, with both him and Suso on the wings leaves us bare-threaded in attack, with only Higuain as forward.

Nowadays teams play with 3-4 forwards, we're doing the opposite.

[han2503]

I agree about the midfield. We need someone who can control the game a la Modric. Would be nice if we could pay big cash on a good midfielder. Also, don't you think we're lacking one striker? Higauin and Cutrone seems a bit thin.

Are you satisified with the wingers? Suso/Hakan is not a bad combo to have. They will only improve with time, and having Higuain there could build a nice trident.

We need a Modric and an Alcantara type imo. Biglia for me was average last season. Maybe he'll have settled in a bit more this season but age is certainly not on his side. We need someone who can sit and control the tempo better than him, and we need someone who can replace Bona, someone who can create, carry the ball forward and always look for the forward pass. Rabiot for example would be perfect but again, he's another player who is simply out of our reach

Between these 2 roles I mentioned, I think we're craving the latter more than the former. We can do with Biglia for another season, we just can't go into another season with Bona as our mezzalla, he's just not good enough and at times last season he was a liability in that position.

As for the wings, I still think that there is a glaringly obvious lack of pace in this side, Suso is slow, Hakan is slow, we don't take advantage of any counter attacks because of this, Castillejo looks marginally faster than both but it's still not enough imo.

For me, the only problem in the squad we really managed to address has been the striker position. And I don't think it's a problem to only have 2 tbh. Higuain will be a sure starter in practically every game. Getting someone else will only limit the small amount of time Cutrone will have this season.

[han2503]

The problem is that Hakan is not a winger. He's a midfielder, plain and simple. I can only see him as trequartista in a hypothetical 4-2-3-1 or as CM in Gattuso's 4-3-3. But having a midfield of three, with both him and Suso on the wings leaves us bare-threaded in attack, with only Higuain as forward.

Nowadays teams play with 3-4 forwards, we're doing the opposite.

The problem is that they're all so slow. We simply have trouble even taking advantage of a counter attacking opportunity because Suso slows the play up most of the time.

A 4-2-3-1 would still leave us with a different set of issues. We don't have the personnel for it. We don't have enough wingers and Hakan is the only player we have who could play as an attacking midfielder



I'm still hoping we'll make one last singing after Bakayoko and Castillejo. One really good midfielder is all we need to elevate this squad imo

[X-Offender]

The problem is that they're all so slow. We simply have trouble even taking advantage of a counter attacking opportunity because Suso slows the play up most of the time.

A 4-2-3-1 would still leave us with a different set of issues. We don't have the personnel for it. We don't have enough wingers and Hakan is the only player we have who could play as an attacking midfielder

Kessie - Biglia
Suso - Hakan - LFW
Higuain

We lack a left winger, that's the problem. Otherwise, we do have the personnel for it.

[Forza Milan!]

Linked with Laxalt

[William405]

Nice to see the burst of activity here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[William405]

The problem is that Hakan is not a winger. He's a midfielder, plain and simple. I can only see him as trequartista in a hypothetical 4-2-3-1 or as CM in Gattuso's 4-3-3. But having a midfield of three, with both him and Suso on the wings leaves us bare-threaded in attack, with only Higuain as forward.

Nowadays teams play with 3-4 forwards, we're doing the opposite.

I agree. He would be better as an attacking midfielder. As a winger, he does OK because he has some sick shot on him.

[William405]

Kessie - Biglia
Suso - Hakan - LFW
Higuain

We lack a left winger, that's the problem. Otherwise, we do have the personnel for it.

Looks good, only lacking the winger. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)