[KillerMax]

What the American said  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I'm not an American, I'm originally Persian. I just live here.

[han2503]

i agree with you.. money would be better than trading him in..

Why would we want to get rid of Oli??

You think he has gotten enough chances?? Hell no!!

Why? I don't know why, ask Carlo. You think Pippo and Gila deserved all the chances they got when they wheren't scoring (well one of them still isn't scoring (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) )? And this when Oli contributes far more to the over all play then both of them combined.

Oli should stay and be given the chances he deserves. End of story.

[han2503]

I'm not an American, I'm originally Persian. I just live here.

Well ok, what the Persian, American resident said (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[KillerMax]

Why would we want to get rid of Oli??

You think he has gotten enough chances?? Hell no!!

Why? I don't know why, ask Carlo. You think Pippo and Gila deserved all the chances they got when they wheren't scoring (well one of them still isn't scoring  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)   )? And this when Oli contributes far more to the over all play then both of them combined.

Oli should stay and be given the chances he deserves. End of story.

You know the thing I don't get, is why Carlo plays with Oli's confidence. He treats him like he doesn't trust him and always subs him early on in the game. Even when he is doing good... They should give him confidence. Oliveira is a capable player!

[arivanjj]

Why would we want to get rid of Oli??

You think he has gotten enough chances?? Hell no!!

Why? I don't know why, ask Carlo. You think Pippo and Gila deserved all the chances they got when they wheren't scoring (well one of them still isn't scoring  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)   )? And this when Oli contributes far more to the over all play then both of them combined.

Oli should stay and be given the chances he deserves. End of story.

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Agreed.

[KillerMax]

Well ok, what the Persian, American resident said  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Citizen. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[han2503]

You know the thing I don't get, is why Carlo plays with Oli's confidence. He treats him like he doesn't trust him and always subs him early on in the game. Even when he is doing good... They should give him confidence. Oliveira is a capable player!

Exactly. And then he goes and actually plays Gila and Pippo together when we have tried it about a million times already and it never works. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I'm a big Carlo supporter but these little things are the things that irritate the hell out of me.

Citizen. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Sorry

[milanistar]

What are you talking about? Galliani went to discuss a fee (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

And wasn't Galliani the one who proclaimed "we will not talk to real over Ronaldo" yet more lies from the weak baldy c*nt (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

Dont get me wrong, what I meant is where is the harm if Galliani negociates in the name of R9, basically he'll negociate the price and R9 pays it, That way Real don't lose it's face and Milan will not pay them, I think that's what is in Kojok's mind (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

i think Galliani might include Oliveira as part of the deal and load him to them till june ..

Are you kidding, who's gonna play in the CL, Jackomeyang?!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

You know the thing I don't get, is why Carlo plays with Oli's confidence. He treats him like he doesn't trust him and always subs him early on in the game. Even when he is doing good... They should give him confidence. Oliveira is a capable player!

No one knows what is going between them and what they talk about, I'm sure Carlo takes the time to explain the situation to Oli and why he doesn't play him!

Anyway, I think Oli should play in all the matches, even he doesn't start, it will give him more confidence and make him feel like a part of the squad, especially with all the rumors around R9!

[X-Offender]

Why would we want to get rid of Oli??

You think he has gotten enough chances?? Hell no!!

Hell yes! He's gotten too many chances and he's wasted most of them them. Who said he hasn't played a full single match? That's nonsense. I'm not being harsh on him, cause I also know his familiar problems so it's understandable. But I get so irritated when people slam Pippo for no reason and then go and raise Oli like he's saving our @ss or something.

Pippo > Oli, full stop.

[X-Offender]

Ronaldo: Milan e Real hanno trovato l'accordo

Il Milan e il Real Madrid hanno trovato l'accordo: Ronaldo sarà rossonero. Ad annunciarlo è Sky tv. Nel tardo pomeriggio Mijatovic attraverso i microfoni della tv di Murdoch fa il punto della trattativa: "Prosegue. Tutto dipende dalle prossime ore e dall'offerta che farà il Milan". In tarda mattinata l'ad rossonero Galliani dopo la veloce riunione
con Baldini spiega "Ronaldo oggi non arriverà. L'incontro è stato interlocutorio e la trattativa procede". Intanto dal sito ufficiale dei rossoneri giungono altre frasi del dirigente di
via Turati. "Ronaldo ha detto che vuole solo il Milan e ha avuto l'autorizzazione dal Real Madrid a cercarsi un'altra squadra, quindi non c'è nessun problema con la dirigenza spagnola. E se le cose procedono nel modo giusto, andrò io a Madrid lunedì prossimo. Stiamo trattando, non dobbiamo fare gli ottimisti, vedremo come finirà". Galliani torna ancora su Ronaldo durante la presentazione di Oddo "Abbiamo scritto una lettera ufficiale al Real che Baldini consegnerà a Calderon".
Il Milan avrebbe chiesto a Ronaldo di rinunciare a parte dell'ingaggio per cercare di colmare la differenza tra richiesta e offerta. Nel pomeriggio Baldini, di ritorno a Madrid, si è incontrato con Mijatovic. Il prezzo per chiudere l'affare sarebbe stato fissato tra i 7-8 milioni. 

Source

It seems Milan and Real have eventually agreed: Ronaldo will be a rossonero. The one confirming it is Sky TV. It says both parts have agreed on around 7-8 million euros. I also heard on Milan Channel that Ronaldo has already passed the medical tests and tomorrow we may have the official announcement. We'll just have to wait...

[milanistar]

Pippo > Oli, full stop.

I agree Pipo is 33 yo and Oli 26 so yes Pippo > Oli (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Anyway, it seems that R9 is a rossonero (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by milanistar: Jan 25 2007, 01:25 AM

[X-Offender]

I agree Pipo is 33 yo and Oli 26 so yes Pippo > Oli (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Would you even compare their records? Oli hasn't scored even half of what Pippo has in the big scene. I know that Pippo is old but that still means nothing. It's like saying Adebayor is better than Henry cause he's younger. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[milanistar]

Would you even compare their records? Oli hasn't scored even half of what Pippo has in the big scene. I know that Pippo is old but that still means nothing. It's like saying Adebayor is better than Henry cause he's younger. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

No no, when Henry plays you can see that he's still good, it's different with Pippo since the guy is good only when he scores, and he doesn't he decomes a burden for the whole team, Oli even if doesn't score he still can be usefull by playing out of the box, making space for the box striker, running on the flanks and dribbling, I mean the guy is talented it's obvious when you watch him play, he's just lacking some confidence and accuracy!

[KillerMax]

No no, when Henry plays you can see that he's still good, it's different with Pippo since the guy is good only when he scores, and he doesn't he decomes a burden for the whole team, Oli even if doesn't score he still can be usefull by playing out of the box, making space for the box striker, running on the flanks and dribbling, I mean the guy is talented it's obvious when you watch him play, he's just lacking some confidence and accuracy!

Agreed 100%! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[X-Offender]

No no, when Henry plays you can see that he's still good, it's different with Pippo since the guy is good only when he scores, and he doesn't he decomes a burden for the whole team, Oli even if doesn't score he still can be usefull by playing out of the box, making space for the box striker, running on the flanks and dribbling, I mean the guy is talented it's obvious when you watch him play, he's just lacking some confidence and accuracy!

Pippo's just a bit selfish, that's all. He may not be a beauty to watch, but he's still very useful to the team. I will never forget how many times he's saved our @sses in the last 3-4 years. Even when he was injured around 2004 and 2005, he still used to score on those very few matches he played (i.e. Milan-Sparta Praga of 2004, Milan-Celtic of 2005 and so on). Now he's 33, he's old and it's comprehensible he's not the one he used to be. But bashing him out of the team after all he's done for us. Man, that's harsh. Oli on the other hand hasn't done much for this team so far. It's been 5 months now and we haven't seen something special from him saving the first match against Lazio. He's definitely lacking something, yes. Now I'm not saying he's not talented, he's 26 and he's a whole new career in front of him. But saving someone who has merely played a full season for us, and knocking someone who's been like our saviour in the last 5 years sounds ridiculous to me.