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post Oct 16 2006, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 16 2006, 01:54 PM)
Babel ? I dont know .. It's not typical for Milan to bring in starlets .. Kaka-Gourcuff are one-offs .. In the history of Milan; rarely has a club brought in youngsters, they opt for experience above all ..

eg: Oliveira instead of Sobis; key element is experience (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

ps .. I'm sure the papers are selling a lot with all this transfer talks being linked with Milan. I mean had we won the last 4 matchs, I doubt we'd even be reading such links (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Well, i think that the kid is really promising...
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post Oct 16 2006, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE (Portugal @ Oct 16 2006, 01:21 PM)
He's too young... still from what I've seen, no Milan quality.
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Then who is Milan quality. Right now, we should take what we can get, and from what I've seen from this kid, I really like him. He woud definately fit in more then Sneijder since we already got 2 attacking midfielders, and one of them simply can't be touched and taken off the starting 11

QUOTE (jbryant1 @ Oct 16 2006, 04:10 PM)
At this point we are going to be linked to everybody.

I read another one in tribal football that stated we are bidding for Ronaldo again.

Babel is another name like Sobis or anybody we'll be associated with.

1- If we need an immediate solution to our striker situation
  -We need a super star who can come immediately


2- If we want a more long term solution
  -Get Babel and youth

Right now he has 6 goals in 9 games(through all competitions)

We should get him. We need to start looking to the future. We only have 3 strikers(really 2) and alot of money. We have nothing to lose and everything to gain in our poor offense.
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What makes you so sure that if we get a start he will fit in emmediately and make an instant impact??

Case in point is the Sheva situation at Chelsea, one of the top 3 strikers in the world and loom at him, he's been petathic lately.
Trying to get a star doesn't always work and secondly it would be much more easy to get someone that is really promising and could turn out into a diamond in the future because he learn how to gel with the team while he's young and still eager, secondly all the hassle and trouble they would have to go to to get someone with a big name not to mention all the money.

I don't think that it would be that feasable
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post Oct 16 2006, 09:07 PM
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QUOTE (berenike_10 @ Oct 16 2006, 10:58 PM)
Well, i think that the kid is really promising...
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He is .. He is amazing; fast, skillful with the ball, brave, ... The type of player that suits Barca, Arsenal, Lyon, Roma, etc .. But to bring him to Milan is a bit far fetched ..

1- He's too young
2- His body is fragile for Serie A
3- He has no experience what- so ever ( and for a club that challenges for to BIG titles season in - season out, he doesnt have what it takes).


Lets just say that in 2-3 yrs time, we could start thinking about him, but in real life, at the moment, he isnt what we need,IMHO
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post Oct 16 2006, 09:08 PM
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read on an italian fansite that silvio is prepared to pay upto €70m for r10! surely we can do better than that with that sort of money.
whats wrong with babel ok so he is only 19 training and working with the milan players will surely only speed up his progress. buy him and let progress wiyh us and still build for the furture (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 16 2006, 02:07 PM)
He is .. He is amazing; fast, skillful with the ball, brave, ... The type of player that suits Barca, Arsenal, Lyon, Roma, etc .. But to bring him to Milan is a bit far fetched ..

1- He's too young
2- His body is fragile for Serie A
3- He has no experience what- so ever ( and for a club that challenges for to BIG titles season in - season out, he doesnt have what it takes).
Lets just say that in 2-3 yrs time, we could start thinking about him, but in real life, at the moment, he isnt what we need,IMHO
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Kaka was much skinner that him when he arrived to milan.. look at kaka now, gourcuff is only a year older, and look at him... and ther problem is that what we really need is not available, so if the kid looks promisimg why not take it ?...
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post Oct 16 2006, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE (Captain Ambro @ Oct 16 2006, 05:01 PM)
Wasn't he a part of the Euro 2004-squad?
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The type of player that suits Barca, Arsenal, Lyon, Roma, etc .. But to bring him to Milan is a bit far fetched ..


In 2-3 years time he could be playing for one of those big clubs you just mentioned and we wouldn't have a prayer's chance in hell of getting him over without paying a small fortune. No, if we are buying him coz he has potential, get him now.
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post Oct 16 2006, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE (berenike_10 @ Oct 16 2006, 11:10 PM)
Kaka was much skinner that him when he arrived to milan.. look at kaka now, gourcuff is only a year older, and look at him... and ther problem is that what we really need is not available, so if the kid looks promisimg why not take it ?...
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Well, when Kaka came to Milan, he hardly got a starting spot .. He was on a 'growth' course, and Kaka was something BIG even before he came here.

Kaka played second fiddle to Rui .. But has always had the abilities that he is showing today, ever since he arrived in Milanello (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Gourcuff is Seedorf's sub .. He is technically suited to fit his role (..and better *fingers crossed*) ..

Gourcuff wont be a regular until he is 22-23 yrs old, you'll see ..


These two r one-offs, transfers like them rarelly happen.
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We can take him, but do u see him getting any play time ?! We have probs with our strikers at the moment .. Is he the solution ?! I mean, I like the idea of a fresh, young, and lively squad; but the odds are against that idea, as it rarelly happened ( Im talking from the late 80's onwards).

One day, when he is a hot shot and Milan need his services, I assure you the board wont hesitate a minute to sign him .. Nothing is in their way (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Oct 16 2006, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 16 2006, 11:11 PM)
In 2-3 years time he could be playing for one of those big clubs you just mentioned and we wouldn't have a prayer's chance in hell of getting him over without paying a small fortune. No, if we are buying him coz he has potential, get him now.
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Why Babel when you have Kaka, Gilardino, Oliviera, (hopefully they'll start scoring), and (.. Ronaldinho ) ?!

Even if he goes to those clubs, what should stop Milan from getting him then ?

I stated those clubs specifically, as they are not on the level of Milan; from a financial point of view and that of a 6 time Euro champions .. If you put those clubs together they wont even beat the record Milan has .. Hence they have no game when a player is comparing between us and them (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Plus, its too early for him to play for Milan .. I mean we are a World class team .. We cant give try-outs every now and then .. If we need someone to fill in a gap, then we bring in players like Favalli, Vogel, Daharoso, Comandini (cant remember how long he stayed), etc.. We dont look to invest ..

Look at it this way, those teams take 4-5 seasons to build a team capable of retaining silverware .. Why ? Because they dont have economical leverage to match us or Man U or Madrid ... So they snatch young players (as Arsenal do), they try to sign young talents (Anderson for Barca) .. But after they build that team; they will flurish for 4-5 seasons then fade away for a while till there next patch of talents pop up.

But when you talk about Milan, you are talking about a whole different ball park .. We have the money, we have the heritage, and we have the ambition every season to go for gold in two competitions .. No other team shares our ambitions (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
With that said, how can Babel compete for a place in a team fully loaded and ready to go?
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post Oct 16 2006, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 16 2006, 10:36 PM)
If we need someone to fill in a gap, then we bring in players like Favalli, Vogel, Daharoso, Comandini
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It was worth getting him just because of that famous derby (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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QUOTE (Captain Ambro @ Oct 16 2006, 09:40 PM)
You know what I think, though?
The problem is not the strikers...
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It is the strikers, apart from Seedorf the midfielders are doing their job very good !!

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 16 2006, 10:54 PM)
I mean had we won the last 4 matchs, I doubt we'd even be reading such links (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Yes but we didn't ... don't sound like Mancini: "If we had scored three goals, we wouldn't have lost" ... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) So what? If my grandma had wheels she'd be a push cart !! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 16 2006, 11:07 PM)
Lets just say that in 2-3 yrs time, we could start thinking about him
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Yeah like the rest of the teams in Europw wil wait that long !! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Gourcuff made in impact, why wouldn't he ??

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 16 2006, 11:21 PM)
Gourcuff wont be a regular until he is 22-23 yrs old, you'll see ..
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Take a look at Seedorf and then think again !!
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@mish: Didn't Comandini come under Fatih Terim. So that would be the year after the 6-0 drubbing right? The year we signed Pippo (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 16 2006, 11:36 PM)
@mish: Didn't Comandini come under Fatih Terim. So that would be the year after the 6-0 drubbing right? The year we signed Pippo (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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He came in 00-01 season. He has scored twice in the the 6-0
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QUOTE (dst @ Oct 17 2006, 12:31 AM)
Yes but we didn't ... don't sound like Mancini: "If we had scored three goals, we
wouldn't have lost" ...  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)   So what? If my grandma had wheels she'd be a push cart !!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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You know, sometimes Mancini makes sence (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) .. He is the little humor we get from Serie A (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I hope he wins the Coppa Italia again and remains with Inter for yrs to come (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

QUOTE (dst @ Oct 17 2006, 12:31 AM)
Yeah like the rest of the teams in Europw wil wait that long !!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Gourcuff made in impact, why wouldn't he ??
Take a look at Seedorf and then think again !!
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Gourcuff is a one-off .. He clearly is Seedorf's replacment, but that doesnt necessarily imply that its either him or Seedorf .. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

He still needs time, just like Kaka .. But Babel ?! Comon, lets say Milan do sign him in January .. What then ? Loan him out (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) .. Give him 180 mns of play time in half the season ?! He wont develop with that much play time .. But even if you believe that he could solve our problem in attack, how ?! He is a starlet, a player in the making .. You never know he might just flop !

Point of the matter is, he aint Milan quality, yet .. Maybe, yes, in a couple of yrs he'll be ready .. So what if other teams take him ? It never stopped us from getting the players we need in the past (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Yeah I just double checked up on him. He's semi-retired by the way. PLays in some amateur league with his dad (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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