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Jun 20 2017, 02:20 AM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jun 20 2017, 12:52 AM)  The guy has a market value. A significant one. Just because as yet we have not publicly received a bid does not suddenly mean there won't be one. And that is money to us, money we can use on both a replacement and in other areas of the pitch. Just because our Asian owners are rich doesn't mean we should rely on them.
I just think some members of the board are being a bit flippant over this! "The price, or monetary value, of something is determined in the marketplace and is based upon the law of supply and demand. [...]." (Wikipedia) There currently is no "demand" for Dolla (as there are no offers on the table), hence his monetary value (as it stands) is 0. Now, that may change in the future. Then again, it may not change before he becomes available at a cost of 0. (Why would a team pay right now when they can get him free in a year?)
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Jun 20 2017, 07:31 AM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jun 19 2017, 11:52 PM)  The guy has a market value. A significant one. Just because as yet we have not publicly received a bid does not suddenly mean there won't be one. And that is money to us, money we can use on both a replacement and in other areas of the pitch. Just because our Asian owners are rich doesn't mean we should rely on them.
I just think some members of the board are being a bit flippant over this! Atm his market value is very low. Why? because his contract is running out and it is public knowledge that he does not want to renew. It's pointless to discuss how much he could potentially be worth, no club will come in with the 100m we could have asked for had we had any leverage. Also, we're basing all this on hypotheticals of Real wanting him, but the only keeper they're interested in is De Gea, I don't think Dolla fits their criteria for player selection. The only club I can really see coming in for him with a good offer is PSG and he himself will probably not want to go there. Juve would be much happier to wait him out, Buffon will stay for another year, so it would be the absolute best scenario for them to negotiate with him in January and he goes there for nothing. Thus they have an instant Buffon replacement for nothing. I think all this talk of being happy to make him sit out the season is mostly just a tactic to get clubs who are interested to make a proper offer. Or it could be used as a message to Donna, that if he doesn't renew then he's going to have to face the consequences. I personally don't think this story is over just yet
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Jun 20 2017, 08:25 AM
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QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Jun 20 2017, 07:09 AM)  Good. That means we have a legit offer, right? (If not, I am afraid I am right. If nobody is willing to pay money for him, his value is zero.) Damn, I wrote 3 paragraphs but I accidentally close my window and cant get what I wrote. Basically, your concept in determining value is wrong and can't interpret demand like the way you are. That would mean that Messi had no value. There are othet circumstances you are not taking into consideration. Florentino Perez: "Mbappé and Donnarumma are great players and the best players should play in Real Madrid." Florentino Perez: "The world tells that Donnarumma is Buffon's heir. Yes, its true, we're interested in him."
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Jun 20 2017, 09:40 AM
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Now rumours are that Gigio might come back to the table and renew after all. I'm not sure about it but lots of people saying if he apologizes and fires Raiola we'd welcome him back. Will we?
I dunno. I've sort of made peace with him going. I don't think I care for him that much anymore. He should take what pride he has left and clear out. Make a name elsewhere for himself.
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Jun 20 2017, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Jun 20 2017, 05:09 AM)  Good. That means we have a legit offer, right? (If not, I am afraid I am right. If nobody is willing to pay money for him, his value is zero.) Your thinking is a little askew here. While you're pedantically correct to say that a commodity is only worth what someone is willing to pay, by your logic Ronaldo is worth 0 because no one has officially bid on him. And yet, as we know, that is completely untrue. There are technically three values. The initial crude value the seller places on the item, then the value someone is willing to part with for it. The final value is what it actually goes for.
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Jun 20 2017, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jun 20 2017, 11:06 AM)  Contract expiry isn't really as relevant as it seems. If PSG bids 20M, City have to bid 30M. If Real then bid 35M, PSG must go to 40M.
A bidding war negates the expiry of the contract being close.
I agree it means you don't get the 100M we could have, but it will still be a very good sum. But once again, your'e assuming something which atm is non-existent. The only clubs which I can see going for him would be Real and/or PSG. Juve would only become an option if he's for free I personally can't see any sort of bidding was ensuing for him, and if we were to sell him I can't see him going for a lot, maximum would be 40m, but it's still a massive hit for us
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Jun 20 2017, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Jun 20 2017, 06:04 PM)  I think all this discussion will soon be not necessary since there is a real chance that the guy renews with Milan. I am just curious go know if we are tenewing him so we sell him for more money or to keep him. It must be to sell for more money. I'm guessing a non-CL release clause of around 30- 35 MM will be signed in as well. Just guessing. Meh! I was looking forward to Perin. He's too good to be second keeper though.
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