[Danny]

Bacca has nothing to do with Witsel. 35M don't automatically mean you're a good player or worth that investment. Just like a good Perugia game and a couple of pre-season matches don't mean Bacca was worth the money yet.

Bacca's a good player. That's a fact. You don't come 5th in La Liga top scorer charts if you're not a good player.

Oh, and well, the club cares. I mean, with that kind of logic we should be able to buy anyone, because...who cares about the money! But that's not how this thing goes.

I think X was making the point that to us fans it doesn't matter if the club pays 25 or 35. And it doesn't.

Well, I guess it does - so many fans whining about Bacca's price tag, started going a bit quiet when it emerged how good he is.

Ibrahimović and Witsel would most probably do the trick. Only Witsel, I think we'd overpay him and still not dissolve our problem with creativity upfront. That Kovačić link brightened my day for a second, but when, Real came in...

What problem with creativity is this? The one where we've scored 3 v Sassuolo and Inter then another 2 v Perugia?

Not sure we have such a problem now.

Can judge better v Fio of course.

[Fillipo Simone]

I think you judge too quickly, that's all I have to say. Bacca, creativity, everything.

P.S.

The fact that Bacca was good in Spain doesn't automatically mean he'll do good in Serie A with us. Look, I'm not saying Bacca is overrated or anything, I'm just being cautious since I haven't had enough time to assess his adaptation.

[han2503]

Probably as close to 'I was wrong' as we'll ever get on that topic from you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Where did you see in that post me saying they were better than us? We still had the superior team, by a distance imo. They were just simply better coached. They had a reasonably good side, but as a whole we had the better team, the bigger stars/match winners, etc

I actually once again added that they took the title right out from under us.

Soriano looking more and more likely to happen... How sad if he's our suppsed solution for the midfield, once again, Galliani never learns his lesson. We have a midfield filled to the rafters with bench players...

Also, we loaned Verdi to Eibar. I think it's with an option to buy. I'll update the transfer list in the other thread later

[X-Offender]

Obviously Miha wants to play a certain type of football where the CMs are hard-working box-to-box mids that defend and push a lot forward. That's why we're going for Soriano, so that we can have an alternative to Bertolacci and Bonaventura. But the point is that not only we don't seem to be remotely interested in a creator, but we're also filling our midfield with very average players. At least Witsel would offer a hop in quality which Soriano clearly does not. And to make things worse, our trequartistas are pretty mediocre as well. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[han2503]

Obviously Miha wants to play a certain type of football where the CMs are hard-working box-to-box mids that defend and push a lot forward. That's why we're going for Soriano, so that we can have an alternative to Bertolacci and Bonaventura. But the point is that not only we don't seem to be remotely interested in a creator, but we're also filling our midfield with very average players. At least Witsel would offer a hop in quality which Soriano clearly does not. And to make things worse, our trequartistas are pretty mediocre as well. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I think any midfield without a proper orchestrator is a poor one. Look at an EPL side like City for example, sure they usually run all over their EPL opponents without much trouble, but they fail in Europe because they have no one to really take charge in midfield.

A regista or at the very least a proper mezzala is always a requirement for any top side. This brainless, all physical type mid is something that Allegri first started at Milan and it's what he's going to turn the Juve midfield into next season if he has his way. There should be a balance, especially when - like us - you have a very one dimensional DM like De Jong playing in that regista position.

I don't think Soriano is simply a box-to-box player, looks more like a classic CM to me, which is what we need (even more so than a Witsel type), that being said, he's Bonaventura/Bertolacci level, therefore he's not really going to add much of anything to our midfield at this point. Once again Galliani seems to be obsessed with quantity over quality, just bring in someone to "shut people up" and be done with it, like he has done so many times.

Also Miha's obsession with his past Samp players is worrying, we've already spent 25m on an unproven talent for the centre of our defence, I think that's quite enough for one summer.

Now if weplayed this smart and tried to ship Monto/Poli + Nocerino and a bit of cash to Samp for Soriano and still got Witsel, I'd say it was a pretty genius move. But genius and Galliani don't really go together. I really can't see him pulling something like that off. Maybe in the past but not nowadays

Btw, Matri could be off to Lazio ((IMG:style_emoticons/default/fiesta.gif) )

[X-Offender]

I saw a few clips of Sorinao on YouTube. He doesn't look bad, but he's simply not good enough if we're aiming at high spots. Consider a NDJ-Bertolacci-Bonaventura-Soriano midfield. That has written 'average' all over it. Little creativity and not enough quality to bring the best out of the team.

This post has been edited by X-Offender: Aug 20 2015, 11:25 AM

[Danny]

I saw a few clips of Sorinao on YouTube. He doesn't look bad, but he's simply not good enough if we're aiming at high spots. Consider a NDJ-Bertolacci-Bonaventura-Soriano midfield. That has written 'average' all over it. Little creativity and not enough quality to bring the best out of the team.

Well given we're using a 3-man mid it would be NDJ, Berto and Soriano. It's a solid if uninspiring clutch of players, and desperately needs the quality in front of it to elevate it.

A Witsel or Ibra in that hole is what Milan miss right now. A sort of hybrid regista/treq who can both slow play down and dictate, putting their foot on the ball, and also create chances up top.

[han2503]

I saw a few clips of Sorinao on YouTube. He doesn't look bad, but he's simply not good enough if we're aiming at high spots. Consider a NDJ-Bertolacci-Bonaventura-Soriano midfield. That has written 'average' all over it. Little creativity and not enough quality to bring the best out of the team.

Youtube can be deceiving, I just don't see him adding anything to the side that we don't already have.

If he's the guy papers have been saying Galliani has been working on for a while that would be hugely disappointing. Most likely Galliani fails with his first target (Witsel) and just goes for him. Reports saying that he has a 10m buy out, so I can only imagine that Galliani is keeping his options open so that if he can't sign anyone better he'll just grab Soriano and say he's who we wanted all along

[X-Offender]

Well given we're using a 3-man mid it would be NDJ, Berto and Soriano. It's a solid if uninspiring clutch of players, and desperately needs the quality in front of it to elevate it.

A Witsel or Ibra in that hole is what Milan miss right now. A sort of hybrid regista/treq who can both slow play down and dictate, putting their foot on the ball, and also create chances up top.

This article says that Miha will use Soriano as trequartista and wants him more than any other player.

[X-Offender]

Reports saying that Miha doesn't consider Nocerino part of his project and wants him out. Samp and Bologna are interested. Also, Jose Mauri might go on loan if Soriano comes, although his agent seems openly against it and wants him to stay.

By the way, I don't know if this has already been mentioned, but Agazzi and Zaccardo have been left out of the roster.

[Fillipo Simone]

What does that mean, left out?

[William405]

What does that mean, left out?

They weren't given numbers, I believe. Verdi was the first, and was then loaned out.

[X-Offender]

Yeah.

[Fillipo Simone]

But Verdi got loaned out. If they don't leave, what happens?

[han2503]

But Verdi got loaned out. If they don't leave, what happens?

I think they might go down the Muntari route with them if they continue to turn down offers.

Also, Reports saying that Alex will be the defender on his way out this summer, Paletta and Zapata most likely to stay