[Forza Milan!]

Indian club Pune City have offered us $250,000 for Zaccardo, but the player has refused the new destination.

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How many offers has this leech refused so far? What a total and utter piece of %^&*.

Yeah, that's what you get when you offer players more money they are worth so we can get them "parametro zero". I would like to think that we have learned our lessons, but I am not sure that's the case.

FWIW, Pune is the only place in India I have been to (+Mumbai on the way there). Lots of IT and R&D outsourcing companies (which is why I went there). Nice town, but serious pollution plus it gets very hot for most of the year, so I guess I really cannot blame the guy.

This post has been edited by Forza Milan!: Aug 6 2015, 07:54 PM

[Forza Milan!]

Interesting article. Makes some of the same points as I have seen on this forum, namely we really need a better midfield and in particular we need a creative mid (and Witsel will not give us that). The writer recommends we go after either Gundogan, Maher, or Tielemans.

[X-Offender]

I'm with him on this one. Ex-Rangers goalie Steve Simonsen ended up there - they're an absolute joke, and their unveiling of him was something below pathetic.

I wouldn't go to Pune City if you paid me either.

It'd be alright if this was the first offer he was rejecting, but it's one of the many he has since he joined us. It's like he just wants to do nothing and earn money. Fucking leech I say!

Roma has signed Salah as well. Meanwhile, we keep rubbing each-other's dicks.

[X-Offender]

Galliani and Sabatini will meet in the weekend for Romagnoli. With Dzeko and Salah being now official, Roma could cave in to our offer.

Paletta's agent said that if Romagnoli comes they'll ask to leave. Atalanta are interested in him. Our asking price: €2 million.

There will be another phone call between us and Zenit this weekend for Witsel. Zenit keep asking €35 million, we're willing to arrive at €30 million plus €5 million bonuses

Source: Sportmediaset

[Fillipo Simone]

My God. Now I see what han was talking about. This transfer period could end up with Milan spending more then a 100 million and still not make a serious move in quality.

I really doubt that Witsel is worth €35 million.

[X-Offender]

Well, if we do sign both Witsel and Romagnoli, then it's something. We won't be Scudetto challengers, but we could possibly aim for that 3rd spot, which is imperative.

However, the fact that we still won't have made a huge leap in quality even after spending €100 million just shows you how far we fallen and how much work (and money) is needed to get us back on top again. €100 million is just not enough. Let's make it €200 million and we'll talk again.

[han2503]

My God. Now I see what han was talking about. This transfer period could end up with Milan spending more then a 100 million and still not make a serious move in quality.

I really doubt that Witsel is worth €35 million.

#thePowerOfGalliani

Well, if we do sign both Witsel and Romagnoli, then it's something. We won't be Scudetto challengers, but we could possibly aim for that 3rd spot, which is imperative.

However, the fact that we still won't have made a huge leap in quality even after spending €100 million just shows you how far we fallen and how much work (and money) is needed to get us back on top again. €100 million is just not enough. Let's make it €200 million and we'll talk again.

I think the fact that a bunch of idiots are running this club is why this is happening. Even worse, those idiots trust a bigger idiot with a huge budget. After a decade of failures in the transfer market.

Galliani here is the problem. And anyone who says he's a genius negotiator needs to GTFO!

Already said this but:

Was going to pay the buyout for Jackson
Was going to pay the asking price for Kondogbia
Paid the buyout for Bacca
Paid the full 8m Shakhtar asked for Adriano with only 6 months left on his contract
Paid the full asking price Roma set for Romagnoli
About to pay 25m for a player who's only had 1 decent season with Samp and would have never been a starter at Roma
About the pay the asking price for Witsel (if that really ever happens)

And imo the level of quality in the squad is still EL level. I personally don't see us getting 3rd, even if we also bring those 2 in without Ibra. LikeI said in the match thread, Witsel is great, but not exactly what we desperately need in midfield and really, I don't see Romagnoli giving our defence that much of a boost. He'd be an obvious improvement over Zapata but not much else.

All this at over a 100m.

I've said from the start that Galliani is simply not good enough anymore and he has proven this so far this summer. The only redeeming action he could make is to sign Ibra at a good price. Other than that I really think this summer transfer window has overall not been that good considering all the money we spent

[X-Offender]

I guess Inter and Atletico who paid the buyout clauses for Kondogbia and Jackson are also idiots then. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

And Romagnoli is labeled the new Nesta by nearly everyone, and €25 million might be a stretch, but it's still acceptable.

The only gripe I have with the signings we've made is with Bertolacci. I think we rushed things there, and went on overpaying for a player who in my honest opinion will result in a huge letdown.

If we had signed Kondogbia, though, I have would have been ecstatic regardless of the price. The guy has the potential to become a star. Whether he'll fulfill that potential, that's another matter entirely.

[Danny]

Well, if we do sign both Witsel and Romagnoli, then it's something. We won't be Scudetto challengers, but we could possibly aim for that 3rd spot, which is imperative.

Told you to forget about third. Said that at the start of Mercato.

[Fillipo Simone]

I guess Inter and Atletico who paid the buyout clauses for Kondogbia and Jackson are also idiots then. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

And Romagnoli is labeled the new Nesta by nearly everyone, and €25 million might be a stretch, but it's still acceptable.

The only gripe I have with the signings we've made is with Bertolacci. I think we rushed things there, and went on overpaying for a player who in my honest opinion will result in a huge letdown.

If we had signed Kondogbia, though, I have would have been ecstatic regardless of the price. The guy has the potential to become a star. Whether he'll fulfill that potential, that's another matter entirely.

As far as I'm concerned, he can be labeled as the new Franco Baresi, I still mistrust a player who's had only one good season at a minor club. And say, was he even that good at Samp? During the season I cannot recall even once being mentioned by someone here as a good prospect. But well, let's hope. Surely our guys have better insight in the matter.

Luiz Adriano is a pointless signing as well if you ask me, adds up to nothing. And we didn't exactly sign him for peanuts also.

Problem is, I believe that a better signing strategy, a better coach and clear targets would have brought us considerably better players.

[han2503]

I guess Inter and Atletico who paid the buyout clauses for Kondogbia and Jackson are also idiots then. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

And Romagnoli is labeled the new Nesta by nearly everyone, and €25 million might be a stretch, but it's still acceptable.

The only gripe I have with the signings we've made is with Bertolacci. I think we rushed things there, and went on overpaying for a player who in my honest opinion will result in a huge letdown.

If we had signed Kondogbia, though, I have would have been ecstatic regardless of the price. The guy has the potential to become a star. Whether he'll fulfill that potential, that's another matter entirely.

I don't think Atletico paid the full buyout, they came close to it, but last I read on the subject Jackson pushed his way out, especially after he rejected us he put Porto in a difficult situation. Also, I don't think you can compare the 2 situations, Atletico are already established and doing great, they have a very good team. They're not a team like us who in reality should have started building from the ground up but instead were about to throw 35m on a striker when other positions were in (and still are) in dire need of improvements. The fact that we went ahead and still spent ridiculous money on a striker as our first move mostly just shows how twisted Galliani's priorities are

As for Kondogbia, he's no were near worth what Inter paid for him imo, no matter his potential. I said as soon as both deals fell through that w dodged a bullet there. We were going to pay by too much, and considering that we still would have had the very same issues we have now (lack of creativity) that would have needed to be addressed, spending all that money on just those 2 wouldn't have made sense.

Just like Ranocchi and Bonucci were labelled that as well?

Young players get hyped all the time. Fact is he's only really had one season under his belt playing as a starter in Serie A, that's not enough to justify that price tag, especially when he would be considered a bench warmer at Roma if he stays

Bertolacci and Adriano imo are pointless signings and wastes of money

As far as I'm concerned, he can be labeled as the new Franco Baresi, I still mistrust a player who's had only one good season at a minor club. And say, was he even that good at Samp? During the season I cannot recall even once being mentioned by someone here as a good prospect. But well, let's hope. Surely our guys have better insight in the matter.

Luiz Adriano is a pointless signing as well if you ask me, adds up to nothing. And we didn't exactly sign him for peanuts also.

Problem is, I believe that a better signing strategy, a better coach and clear targets would have brought us considerably better players.

I don't think many of us here watch Samp regularly to come with any sort of assessment of him, still I don't ever remember him catching my eye when we played them last season and I don't recall anyone else mentioning him either, on not just on this forum, in general over the internet or when talking to anyone personally

Agreed with the rest.

I think Galliani has massively overspent in this window, especially when looking at who other teams signed for similar fees that we spent.

[X-Offender]

No, Atletico paid the full release clause for Jackson, 100% sure about it. And we needed a CF just as much as we need a CM and a CB now, I don't care what you say. If we hadn't made a move for Bacca someone else might have snatched him and we would have been left with nothing but going after someone mediocre like Eder.

As for Romagnoli, the more appropriate question would be: is he worth the risk? Ranocchia failed at Inter, but Bonucci proved to be a success for Juve. With these young defenders there's always a high margin of risk, so it really depends on whether we are willing to take it.

[han2503]

No, Atletico paid the full release clause for Jackson, 100% sure about it. And we needed a CF just as much as we need a CM and a CB now, I don't care what you say. If we hadn't made a move for Bacca someone else might have snatched him and we would have been left with nothing but going after someone mediocre like Eder.

As for Romagnoli, the more appropriate question would be: is he worth the risk? Ranocchia failed at Inter, but Bonucci proved to be a success for Juve. With these young defenders there's always a high margin of risk, so it really depends on whether we are willing to take it.

I'm not sure about Jackson, like I said, last I read he was making it difficult for Porto because Atletico's offer was lower than ours. Not going to contradict you on this as I didn't continue to follow the story once it was clear he was going there.

He's still not worth that imo, especially for a player who has never played in a top league, at least Bacca was producing in Spain, which makes the money we paid look better spent.

And I disagree about who we needed most being a striker. A striker like Bacca or Jackson especially who both rely on service. If we can't get a proper team behind Bacca he'll fail, just like all the strikers who've played for us since Ibra. Making the signing entirely useless

Bonucci has far from turned out into what he was hyped into becoming. He's a great passer and a decent defender, but he can be a bit of a liability at times. Especially for Italy

[Fillipo Simone]

Bacca used to be very efficient with Sevilla. I know our midfield is very bad, but then again, is Sevilla really that creative? That strong in the service department?

Bonucci may not have turned into Nesta but he paid off and became good, that's the point. Every defender except a few god-like players have their moments of mistakes and pose a small liability. I'd say Bonucci is very good.

Now, X-O asked a good question. It's however not answerable, yet. What I'd like to know is why are we so set that Romagnoli is the right guy? Did Mihajlović persuade Galliani and the medias did the rest or is there more to it? That's my main concern.

[han2503]

Bacca used to be very efficient with Sevilla. I know our midfield is very bad, but then again, is Sevilla really that creative? That strong in the service department?

Bonucci may not have turned into Nesta but he paid off and became good, that's the point. Every defender except a few god-like players have their moments of mistakes and pose a small liability. I'd say Bonucci is very good.

Now, X-O asked a good question. It's however not answerable, yet. What I'd like to know is why are we so set that Romagnoli is the right guy? Did Mihajlović persuade Galliani and the medias did the rest or is there more to it? That's my main concern.

Well if you look at it like that you can say that Matri for example did well at Cagliari with a much worse team behind him, so why couldn't he cut it with us. Or basically any player who's at a smaller club and makes the move to a bigger club

It depends on how that player adapts to the team's system, or he can choke and just fail there because he's not cut out for playing in a bigger side.

There are a lot of factors that play into it. But we've had a lot of strikers over the years, basically with Zlatan being the only one who really succeeded after the Sheva era. Pato had the potential and the team behind him but things went the way they did for him and I wouldn't call him a typical CF either. Since Ibra we've had Balo, Pazzini, Matri, Torres, Destro (am I missing anyone?) all classic CFs or poachers and they've all struggled to be prolific or were just plain old failures. And this imo had a bit to do with them not being all that great but also with the fact that our strikers play a very isolated game thanks to us not having a midfield that provides that support. When you have a striker who spends 90 minutes roaming about and barely ever getting a touch of the ball, which happened a lot last season it's not simply is fault for not being good. Balo and Menez when he played the false 9 got involved because they dropped very deep, and Balo scored good chunk of goals which were very individualistic/efforts from distance

Bonucci for me is just decent, he works well in the Juve set-up as he's really adapted there, but whenever I see him for Italy it's just one huge face palm

I think it's pretty obvious that Miha was the one who pushed for him, he practically said as much to the press