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I wouldn't buy much into it. Media loves speculation at this point.
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post May 31 2015, 12:12 PM
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Indeed.
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The predictions are that Carletto will say no and we end up with Brocchi. (And yes, I understand this is speculation, but that's what we get throughout the transfer season (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ).

Also, now that Italian regional elections are over, it will be interesting to see if the 120M promised will materialize (or if they were just posturing).
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post Jun 1 2015, 06:04 PM
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Personally, I believe Silvio will sell Milan. Just that his ownership is diminished that he does not have to be burdened by covering the losses anymore. The way he is conducting the sale is very professional in that this is a loosing club that runs losses fairly loosely, yet he is managing to monetize on the club despite such odds - whats the valuation at now? a billion euros? That, further cemented by the new investors keenness to have him on-board, considering his know-how and proven track-record.



Berlusconi is the man with the final say, whether he has a transfer budget to move things this summer or adapts an all Italian Milan is all up in the air. Its just that his style of negotiations is creating value where I can not see; which is why I believe he will end up selling Milan.
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post Jun 1 2015, 06:23 PM
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Its just that his style of negotiations is creating value where I can not see;


Don't get this part? You mean you cannot see the value in Milan? It's one of the most famous, history-rich and beloved clubs in the world still available for purchase, unlike most of them.
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Yeah, but we don't have a stadium of our own, the money we get from TV rights is not much, the Serie A is in a pitfall, FFP, yada yada... It's what R7 has been preaching for years on this end, and why Berlusconi is this dearest angel that keeps "saving" Milan every year despite the club being a "loss machine". But hey, perhaps the fact that we've been completely mismanaged over the last decade or so by the very same people he entrusted his club to might have something to do with it also? You know, a slight possibility to keep into consideration. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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In R7's defense, the main problem - if you ask me - is the Serie A/Italian frame.
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Oh, I'm not saying he's wrong, but that's part of the problem.
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Looks like we are losing Essien and de Jong. Not happy about de Jong, but it is not unexpected.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 1 2015, 08:17 PM) *
Oh, I'm not saying he's wrong, but that's part of the problem.

Yes, Serie A's challenges have hurt us. However, it does not justify us being 10th in the league *and* losing a lot of money. (That's poor management, IMHO.)
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 1 2015, 07:04 PM) *
Personally, I believe Silvio will sell Milan. Just that his ownership is diminished that he does not have to be burdened by covering the losses anymore. The way he is conducting the sale is very professional in that this is a loosing club that runs losses fairly loosely, yet he is managing to monetize on the club despite such odds - whats the valuation at now? a billion euros? That, further cemented by the new investors keenness to have him on-board, considering his know-how and proven track-record.

Berlusconi is the man with the final say, whether he has a transfer budget to move things this summer or adapts an all Italian Milan is all up in the air. Its just that his style of negotiations is creating value where I can not see; which is why I believe he will end up selling Milan.

I have no doubt Berlu can handle himself in financial transactions, and I know that more often than not what he says is for show (he is *very* good at manipulating people in order to achieve his goals, whatever those may be). Also, his attention in the last few weeks have probably been more on the elections than on selling Milan, which means we could see further developments soon.

We (the fans) are fed conflicting statements and left hanging. Personally, I would prefer to wait until there is a plan and hear what that is.

(And yes, I know that he makes all of the key decisions, as he should. That is normally true of all owners, so there is no need to state the obvious (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) .)
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 1 2015, 09:23 PM) *
Don't get this part? You mean you cannot see the value in Milan? It's one of the most famous, history-rich and beloved clubs in the world still available for purchase, unlike most of them.


Oh for sure there is intangible value there. Much of that is at its all-time low if you are going to take it at fair-value and not sentimental-value that is.

Allow me to elaborate; he is creating 'more' value in Milan than what is currently assessed by the club's financial standings 'as-is' and the above mentioned. From what I read, Silvio is not selling the club to the Thai, he is selling it to the government of China and they most-likely are buying the club as a trophy asset. Hence whatever sweetener he can put on, trust me he will put on to push that valuation higher. I wouldn't be surprised Ancelotti is also thrown in that mix of creating 'more' value.


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So, rumors about Zlatan retuning especially if Ancelotti accepts the job are circulating. At almost 34, would you want him back?
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So, rumors about Zlatan retuning especially if Ancelotti accepts the job are circulating. At almost 34, would you want him back?


He's such a star in Serie A that with him we are talking top 2-3 at the minimum imo, I'd love to have him back if we dont get a pure out and out striker like Mandzukic or someone like falcao

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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 1 2015, 06:58 PM) *
In R7's defense, the main problem - if you ask me - is the Serie A/Italian frame.

Then how would one explain Juve?

They basically came back from nothing to not only completely take over Serie A with basically no one to challenge them but to also make waves in Europe now as well.

And for me, it's not only about the stadium.

They've made smart footballing decisions throughout these last 5 years or so. Pogba, Tevez, Pirlo (thanks to us), Vidal etc were all smart transfer market moves. That I'm sorry to say, the people in charge of our transfers simply do not have the vision to accomplish.

Conte was also a very smart move, okay no one could have foreseen that he would turn them into a machine but clearly someone believed in him to begin with

Compare that to us on the other hand. Rookie coach after rookie coach, terrible transfer market activity where money is continuously wasted on seriously bad players. A wage structure that should be upholding a league winning side at the least is behind the club that finished 10th...

Yes there is the stadium, but other than that, Juve are in the same water that we're in. Same league, same TV money, same country economy.
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