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 May 22 2013, 06:39 AM
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Smoking Bianco  Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191  |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 3 2013, 10:08 PM)  Why do they have to take into account the two preceding years? Stupid. To mitigate the risk of having huge losses in one season, they average it out over a span of three years so clubs have a chance to recover losses and remain within the parameters set forth in the matrix table above. |
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May 22 2013, 07:05 AM
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Loves Greek Women esp Fay  Group: Moderators Posts: 14,924 Joined: 19-May 06 From: Bangalore,India Member No.: 1,865 |
@Filippo: Since season beginning, Zed, Blue, R7 and I have been saying 5 years. You don't create business models just like that. We cannot expand our revenue streams so easily, because unfortunately the wise men in Serie A are not as far sighted as the boys in the BuLi.
Our goals next season? Here is what it is: On paper, Galliani will talk about being competitive and about challenging for the scudetto and going 'as far as possible in the CL'. He will know that the truth is with some signings and assuming that there are no injuries; in other words a perfect season we can challenge. Otherwise expect him to cite misfortune and various other factors when we do lose out on the scudetto. In reality - 1. The project of re-building the team by cutting off excess and bringing in VFM players with the odd quality player will continue. This will continue for another 2-3 years before we finally have a good solid spine of players we can rely on. I don't discount the possibility of a couple of marquee signings in the interim. 2. The targets will be to consistently finish in the CL places. Take advantage of any slip up by the other teams to make a scudetto run. Coppa Italia will continue to be neglected. 3. Keep working on commercial deals. Nothing will develop on the stadium front until Inter waive rights to the Siro. For the upcoming season, 2nd to Juve will be accepted. We cannot be at risk to Fiorentina as we were this season though, and my guess is that signings will be made to ensure it doesn't happen. Milan will not be a true challenger till 2016-2017. There is no way. We are not in the dark ages, but something akin to a limbo. |
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May 22 2013, 09:27 AM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
How much of an advantage does Juve's own stadium give them over us? Like, are we talking 10m, 20m, 50m?
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May 22 2013, 10:51 AM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 22 2013, 12:27 PM) How much of an advantage does Juve's own stadium give them over us? Like, are we talking 10m, 20m, 50m? If we were to say average ticket price is EUR45/-, with the stadium occupancy to be 41K (ie sold out), 19 home games. Juventus are expected to make EUR35MM per season just from those domestic 19 home games. This does not include CL matches where prices are likely to be higher and other events organized in the stadium throughout the year and off-seasons. Depending how far they go in Europe (ie home games) and non-football related events in the stadium, its safe to say they could reach well over EUR45MM just from their own stadium. Less expenses, don't know how much their expenses are on the stadium, but you could say easily EUR40MM as net income from their stadium alone. |
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May 22 2013, 04:13 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
Do we not get anything from the San Siro then? Or is what we make basically counter-weighted by the cost of rent?
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May 22 2013, 06:10 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 22 2013, 04:13 PM) Do we not get anything from the San Siro then? Or is what we make basically counter-weighted by the cost of rent? I think that at times we'd end up paying more considering the only times we manage to fill it up are the KO CL ties, and unlike in the past those type of games are very few during a season (1 or 2 if we're luck and get to the quarters) |
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May 22 2013, 09:59 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,627 Joined: 19-April 06 Member No.: 1,660 |
Great post jack +1
We have to be patient. Right now we have some of the best youth in our grasp. A couple days ago Serie B's president said saponara, jorginho and regini are some of the best talents in the league. Those 3 are essentially in our grasp. Saponara is quality, I think he will start in our team. --- We have DS, SES and Balo who don't need any more discussion. We cristante who will surprise many of you this season. Niang is only 18 and can only get better. Salamon is 21. our targets: Regini 22 Jorginho 21 Poli 23 This team is young, incredibly young. The rebuilding is being done right. They are getting italians which is vital to our clubs growth and they are targeting youth who are good but don't have the superstar profile yet. 5 years and this team will be scary. The best part of it is, we don't even have to sell players as we don't have any debt. This post has been edited by Bluesummers: May 22 2013, 09:59 PM |
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May 22 2013, 10:24 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736 |
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ May 23 2013, 02:59 AM) Niang is only 18 and can only get better. True, true. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) He can't get any worse, that's for sure, the prick. (IMG:http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Kanye-West-Clapping.gif) |
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May 22 2013, 10:50 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,627 Joined: 19-April 06 Member No.: 1,660 |
QUOTE (acid911 @ May 22 2013, 04:24 PM) True, true. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) He can't get any worse, that's for sure, the prick. (IMG:http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Kanye-West-Clapping.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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May 23 2013, 01:05 AM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ May 22 2013, 11:59 PM) 5 years and this team will be scary. You can't say that. Five years is a long time, who knows what will happen until then. Just because we're pursuing a certain policy doesn't mean everything will turn out fine. It might very well backfire, badly. |
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May 23 2013, 02:15 AM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,627 Joined: 19-April 06 Member No.: 1,660 |
Sadly we needed 3rd this year and next year for the foundation to be in place. After that we won't need the money as bad
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May 23 2013, 06:05 AM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 23 2013, 06:05 AM) You can't say that. Five years is a long time, who knows what will happen until then. Just because we're pursuing a certain policy doesn't mean everything will turn out fine. It might very well backfire, badly. Not really. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) In five years time Bluesummers will probably be the head coach of Milan, and everything will turn out fine. Besides, it's not like we've not been to the depths of hell before. Finishing fifth, losing out on CL in the round of sixteen, and all that. Besides, the numbers that are published are not usually the ones that play behind the curtains. For now though, we should keep calm and trust In Blue. Just In Blue. |
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May 23 2013, 07:17 AM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 23 2013, 04:05 AM) You can't say that. Five years is a long time, who knows what will happen until then. Just because we're pursuing a certain policy doesn't mean everything will turn out fine. It might very well backfire, badly. Yup, who knows ... ?For all we Know Allegri could be a CL winner with Milan in five years time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) |
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May 23 2013, 02:51 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (acid911 @ May 23 2013, 08:05 AM) Not really. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) In five years time Bluesummers will probably be the head coach of Milan, and everything will turn out fine. Besides, it's not like we've not been to the depths of hell before. Finishing fifth, losing out on CL in the round of sixteen, and all that. Besides, the numbers that are published are not usually the ones that play behind the curtains. For now though, we should keep calm and trust In Blue. Just In Blue. If I didn't know you better I'd say you're taking the piss out of me. QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ May 23 2013, 09:17 AM) Yup, who knows ... ?For all we Know Allegri could be a CL winner with Milan in five years time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) Or training Grosseto in Serie B. |
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May 30 2013, 12:59 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 2,623 Joined: 26-December 05 From: Inghilterra Member No.: 1,072 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 23 2013, 03:51 PM) If I didn't know you better I'd say you're taking the piss out of me. Or training Grosseto in Serie B. more likley the latter (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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