[Fillipo Simone]

And me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Seriously though, I think the kid shows potential of being a good CF in the future, but this winger business just makes him look bad. Same with SES now as it's become painful to watch that kind of talent wasting away out wide.

He does? His dribbling is poor and his finishing skills questionable. He has this explosive character and tenacity, but I don't see anything special in him.

[han2503]

He does? His dribbling is poor and his finishing skills questionable. He has this explosive character and tenacity, but I don't see anything special in him.

His strength and movement show that he has potential, aside from that I'm in your camp.

The dribbling problem is glaringly obvious because of the position he's been played in.

He shows a lot of determination which opens the door to improvement but certainly not as winger

[Zed.D]

We should consider bringing Pato back after the 2014 World Cup if he makes full recovery. I don't think Niangs of this world can go a long way at Milan to be honest.

This post has been edited by Zed.D: Feb 10 2013, 09:51 PM

[Fillipo Simone]

We should consider bringing Pato back after the 2014 World Cup if he makes full recovery. I don't think Niangs of this world can go a long way at Milan to be honest.

I'm with you on this, hear you loud and clear (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[han2503]

We should consider bringing Pato back after the 2014 World Cup if he makes full recovery. I don't think Niangs of this world can go a long way at Milan to be honest.

If Pato is doing well and recovered his fitness by then, he'll be out of our price range

[Zed.D]

I'm with you on this, hear you loud and clear (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Nice to see that we can agree on some things sometimes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

If Pato is doing well and recovered his fitness by then, he'll be out of our price range

Who knows what will happen. but I can't see him going back to Europe playing for a club other than Milan. maybe it's the fanboy in me!

This post has been edited by Zed.D: Feb 10 2013, 09:55 PM

[KillerMax]

Guys guys, just chill it with Niang. Seriously the player is being played out of position. It's just incredibly harsh the way you guys are coming down on the kid. I don't see ANYBODY who plays well for Milan these days. Just a couple instances here and there, even then very inconsistent. It's hard to judge any of our players at this point. I watched most of the game, I couldn't even decide what happened.. The whole game looked like a training drill. Why are you guys coming down on Niang? It just doesn't make sense. A lot of us are wishfully pushing for him to be our future star and there is not much to take away right now, I'll give you that. But who is good right now? I refuse to believe we have an entire roster of $hit players. Nobody looks motivated or hungry. Nobody seems to be following any specific set of overall team tactics. The team simply gets on the pitch, runs around and passes around. There is absolutely nothing else in our gameplan that I can see. Please aim your frustration elsewhere. Niang is being played out of position, but it's nice to see him try very hard. There is not much else to say.

[han2503]

Guys guys, just chill it with Niang. Seriously the player is being played out of position. It's just incredibly harsh the way you guys are coming down on the kid. I don't see ANYBODY who plays well for Milan these days. Just a couple instances here and there, even then very inconsistent. It's hard to judge any of our players at this point. I watched most of the game, I couldn't even decide what happened.. The whole game looked like a training drill. Why are you guys coming down on Niang? It just doesn't make sense. A lot of us are wishfully pushing for him to be our future star and there is not much to take away right now, I'll give you that. But who is good right now? I refuse to believe we have an entire roster of $hit players. Nobody looks motivated or hungry. Nobody seems to be following any specific set of overall team tactics. The team simply gets on the pitch, runs around and passes around. There is absolutely nothing else in our gameplan that I can see. Please aim your frustration elsewhere. Niang is being played out of position, but it's nice to see him try very hard. There is not much else to say.

Woah man! Who appointed you as his attorney? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

And if you read my post above, I said he looks like he has potential to be a good CF in the future, but I seriously cannot stand watching him play out wide anymore. When it's something that's holding us back then I prefer a young player not being pushed in just for the sake of it, or because he simply runs around a lot, thus by Allegri standards that means he's world class (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

We could be playing so much better if we moved back to 2 upfront and had a proper midfield composition.

But once again, it's all on Allegri.

I'm not too happy with El Shaarawy either at this point, he's been almost as bad as Niang. But while El Shaa has a goal in him, Niang simply doesn't even have that. Watching him run with his head down and shooting in aimless crosses all game is not my idea of decent enough to keep on playing him there

[X-Offender]

Why witty? My remark was not witty, it was stating an observation. So unless we are losing, there is very little to complain about. Heck, up until 3 months ago the idea of making Europa Cup football next season was a very heated subject. Now, with 3rd place ever so close, priorities shifted to 3rd place and Champions League birth. That is not an observation also? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

There is a lot to complain about, because even when we win we still play shitty football. This team is capable of much better, yet our rookie coach tries his hardest to mess things up in every game. Today he messed up big time. Even a noob could predict our atrocious performance with that midfield Allegri played from the start. The fact that we had Boateng and Nocerino on the bench makes it even more cringeworthy. The guy is an idiot, he doesn't deserve any praise whatsoever, and I pity those who take his side.

And yours was a witty remark.

Guys guys, just chill it with Niang. Seriously the player is being played out of position. It's just incredibly harsh the way you guys are coming down on the kid. I don't see ANYBODY who plays well for Milan these days. Just a couple instances here and there, even then very inconsistent. It's hard to judge any of our players at this point. I watched most of the game, I couldn't even decide what happened.. The whole game looked like a training drill. Why are you guys coming down on Niang? It just doesn't make sense. A lot of us are wishfully pushing for him to be our future star and there is not much to take away right now, I'll give you that. But who is good right now? I refuse to believe we have an entire roster of $hit players. Nobody looks motivated or hungry. Nobody seems to be following any specific set of overall team tactics. The team simply gets on the pitch, runs around and passes around. There is absolutely nothing else in our gameplan that I can see. Please aim your frustration elsewhere. Niang is being played out of position, but it's nice to see him try very hard. There is not much else to say.

I think we've clearly stated that our problem with Niang is him being played out of position.

[KillerMax]

Woah man! Who appointed you as his attorney? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

And if you read my post above, I said he looks like he has potential to be a good CF in the future, but I seriously cannot stand watching him play out wide anymore. When it's something that's holding us back then I prefer a young player not being pushed in just for the sake of it, or because he simply runs around a lot, thus by Allegri standards that means he's world class (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

We could be playing so much better if we moved back to 2 upfront and had a proper midfield composition.

But once again, it's all on Allegri.

I'm not too happy with El Shaarawy either at this point, he's been almost as bad as Niang. But while El Shaa has a goal in him, Niang simply doesn't even have that. Watching him run with his head down and shooting in aimless crosses all game is not my idea of decent enough to keep on playing him there

This season, Boateng and Nocerino have been very bad too. I've watched games in which Boateng was simply woeful. But I don't think it mean much about him as a player because our whole team has been massively under-performing. When we play games like we did today, only a player of Ibra's caliber can stand out and perform. The rest of the team looks hopeless in these situations. Even El Shaa, in my opinion, has been under-performing all season. The only thing he has done well is scoring. Which counts for a lot, but it's not everything. How can I judge a such players like Boateng, Nocerino, El Shaa in such a climate? The only players I DO judge are the likes of Traore or Antonini who are just on another level bad all by themselves and it really doesn't have much to do with our current situation. Even Emanuelson was CONSTANTLY being played out of position and ALL KINDS of positions. I'm sure if Allegri played him as a LB and stuck to it, he would have been one of our decent players by now. So again, go easy on Niang because your harsh criticism is unjustified when the overall picture is analyzed.

[KillerMax]

I think we've clearly stated that our problem with Niang is him being played out of position.

No. A lot is being said about how he is nothing special, a poor player and so on. If I were to go with this, I'd say our whole team is crap, which I don't agree with.

[dst]

Anyone still defending this idiot should seriously open their eyes and smell the p!ss covered roses FFS

I can still smell with my eyes closed.

“It was a hard-fought game and in the first half the team held out well, but we conceded that Ibarbo goal right before the break,”

This is the mentality of our coach... AGAINST F@CKING CAGLIARI!

Oh good God, that mentality is pathetic.

“Allegri doesn’t understand anything,”

Silvio Berlusconi

Did he really say that? If so, is this after the game or an older quote?

Going through the ratings on Sportmediaset, what do my eyes see? 6.5 for Niang??? WTF is wrong with everyone? This guy was absolutely appalling today, unwatchable, cringeworthy in every move, yet people are willing to suck his balls just because he's talented and young! Bojan in 15 minutes managed to change the flow of our game, yet nobody even mentions it. Un-freaking-believable.

Niang was pretty mediocre but you can't really rate Bojan either, he came in when Cagliari started falling back.

[KillerMax]

Did he really say that? If so, is this after the game or an older quote?

Apparently it was said after the game in a political rally he was attending.

[han2503]

This season, Boateng and Nocerino have been very bad too. I've watched games in which Boateng was simply woeful. But I don't think it mean much about him as a player because our whole team has been massively under-performing. When we play games like we did today, only a player of Ibra's caliber can stand out and perform. The rest of the team looks hopeless in these situations. Even El Shaa, in my opinion, has been under-performing all season. The only thing he has done well is scoring. Which counts for a lot, but it's not everything. How can I judge a such players like Boateng, Nocerino, El Shaa in such a climate? The only players I DO judge are the likes of Traore or Antonini who are just on another level bad all by themselves and it really doesn't have much to do with our current situation. Even Emanuelson was CONSTANTLY being played out of position and ALL KINDS of positions. I'm sure if Allegri played him as a LB and stuck to it, he would have been one of our decent players by now. So again, go easy on Niang because your harsh criticism is unjustified when the overall picture is analyzed.

Personally I agree with you about the players and such, I just don't understand what you guys see in Niang that's so special that you think it's ok for him to keep playing there when clearly it's just not working out.

I understand that he's being played out of position through no fault of his own, and maybe we are coming down harshly on him, but imo that comes through the sheer frustration of watching him stumbling around on that right side when even the former player that is Robinho would do a better job out there. Having him played out there is just another problem being added to this team's performance, a problem that in this current state we seriously do not need.

I guess that's my point and my main frustration with Niang. Just like you've mentioned Urby. I thought he was a fine utility player to have. Certainly a lot better than having the likes of Traore to come off the bench, but Allegri seriously made me hate the absolute sight of him in that line-up because we all knew where he would be placed for some reason that only Allegri's pea sized brain could comprehend.

Boateng is another victim to this. He was great for those few weeks where he was actually played in midfield. Now we're back to lumping Boateng in every area of the attack possible to see what he can do.

No. A lot is being said about how he is nothing special, a poor player and so on. If I were to go with this, I'd say our whole team is crap, which I don't agree with.

I admit, I said that I saw nothing special in him, and I still stand by that, he is yet to impress me in the slightest. At least with El Shaarawy even though he is confined to the wing and playing badly he has impressed me on multiple occasions and shown me that he is worth it, that there is more than just something special in him. I just don't see that in Niang, and even if he is playing out of position, sometimes you can just tell with players.

I can still smell with my eyes closed.

It's a LEGIT saying! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/swear1.gif)

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[kurtsimonw]

We could be playing so much better if we moved back to 2 upfront and had a proper midfield composition.

God no. Forget playing 2 up front without a real #10 and the crappy narrow formation. I would much prefer to play Niang out of position on the wing than have someone like Boateng play as our #10, never again.