[Danny]

And an average LB into a mediocre winger in Emanuelson. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Emanuelson is technically a utility player. Technically decent all round but not especially wonderful in any position.

It's curious though that you've used, in a case for the prosecution, a player you label 'average' in the first place. Wouldn't a stronger case have been to use a great player who had been reduced to average or worse?

[han2503]

Fair enough, reasonable comments. You did quite well there despite your face going red with fury as you threw darts at a photo of his face (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

For the record I think he deserves a huge amount of credit for moulding a brilliant LB out of a CM in Constant.

Well I do have that on the door to my bedroom (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

That was mostly just a stroke of luck as Constant has been played there before with Genoa. The fact that he actually looks good there has nothing to do with Allegri. But in all honesty I'm still worried about him for when we face really good opposition with technical players on the wing.

[Danny]

Well I do have that on the door to my bedroom (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

That was mostly just a stroke of luck as Constant has been played there before with Genoa. The fact that he actually looks good there has nothing to do with Allegri. But in all honesty I'm still worried about him for when we face really good opposition with technical players on the wing.

Like Juventus!?

Think Han, THINK (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

Talk all you want about Allegri, but when did we FINALLY see a turnaround?

When Silvio Berlusconi himself had to PERSONALLY fly in and make the motivational speech to the players. I mean it's not rocket science here. The players were not happy to be under Allegri and this was glaringly revealed in the Gazzetta after that mess against Fiorentina.

Come on han, this is beyond silly now.

[han2503]

Like Juventus!?

Think Han, THINK (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

You mean Isla FFS??

He made Constant look like Ashley Cole! Come on!

Juve had a bad game against us. i've seen them a lot this season, and they simply were not at their best against us. Their constant predictability of switching play constantly to the right wing and Isla crossing the ball into Constant's mid-secion everytime.

When I talk about really good teams, my mind instantly goes to the CL draw in a few days time. And what happens if we're drawn against Bayern? Man U? Barca? Do you think Constant can handle that as easily as Isla for crying out loud?

Come on han, this is beyond silly now.

What's silly?

It's a fact that Allegri could barely control his dressing room at that time. There was talk of most of the players basically being against him. It's a fact that Silvio had to personally step in and do the job of the man he's hired to do.

Allegri's incompetence when it comes to man-management is glaringly obvious and there's no better example for it then this event in particular. Forget all the rumoured troubles he's had in the past.

[kurtsimonw]

What's silly?

It's a fact that Allegri could barely control his dressing room at that time. There was talk of most of the players basically being against him. It's a fact that Silvio had to personally step in and do the job of the man he's hired to do.

Allegri's incompetence when it comes to man-management is glaringly obvious and there's no better example for it then this event in particular. Forget all the rumoured troubles he's had in the past.

You say he's terrible at man management and that he's tactically none-existant and that the reason we've turned things around is a speech from our owners. That's silly, it really is.

[han2503]

You say he's terrible at man management and that he's tactically none-existant and that the reason we've turned things around is a speech from our owners. That's silly, it really is.

When did the results finally turn?

We had hit rock bottom in that game against Fiorentina. Literally the team was falling apart. It certainly was not Allegri who took care of that.

As for his tactics. Let's not kid oursleves. He tried every formation in the book. Going as far as to switch us to a 3-man defensive system because it's on "trend" right now. He stuck to the final one that finally yielded decent results although sometimes our perfomances are still as dire as they were before. And don't get me started on his technical assessment of players.

Urby is everything but the player he truely is, Muntari and Boateng can go from DMs one day to CAMs on another day, the list is endless.

I mean I know there has to be some tactical flexibility with players, they have to be able to play in more then one position, but this usually swings from CB to RB or DM to CM, not LB to CM to right wing attacker!

[X-Offender]

According to La Gazzetta, during half-time of the Milan-Fiorentina game, Allegri told his players in the locker room: "Well done, you've proven that you don't want me here anymore. Now at least go out there and prove that you're worthy of this shirt". That's the week when Berlusconi stepped in, before the Napoli game. Han speaks the truth.

[han2503]

According to La Gazzetta, during half-time of the Milan-Fiorentina game, Allegri told his players in the locker room: "Well done, you've proven that you don't want me here anymore. Now at least go out there and prove that you're worthy of this shirt". That's the week when Berlusconi stepped in, before the Napoli game. Han speaks the truth.

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[Fillipo Simone]

Talk all you want about Allegri, but when did we FINALLY see a turnaround?

When Silvio Berlusconi himself had to PERSONALLY fly in and make the motivational speech to the players. I mean it's not rocket science here. The players were not happy to be under Allegri and this was glaringly revealed in the Gazzetta after that mess against Fiorentina.

Allegri had completely lost control of his dressing room at that time.

I give Allegri credit for certain things, but certainly not his abysmal application of tactics, or should I say non-tactics, and even worse (which is a feat in and of itself) his terible man management.

The man has lost all of my sympathy and support. And with every bad decision he makes, he makes me hate him even more. I think someone above said it best. He'll stay on no matter what this season, but come summer, he's out. One way or the other. He's just not Milan material, end of.

+1

[Danny]

I can see Roman Abramovich riding into the Chelsea dressing room as we speak (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

In case you're not sure who I'm siding with here, Kurt is your answer.

I think it's slightly ridiculous to believe the players were inspired by a speech from a man with less integrity and credibility these days than Walter Mitty.

[han2503]

I can see Roman Abramovich riding into the Chelsea dressing room as we speak (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

In case you're not sure who I'm siding with here, Kurt is your answer.

I think it's slightly ridiculous to believe the players were inspired by a speech from a man with less integrity and credibility these days than Walter Mitty.

So what?

Berlusconi has always had the integrity of a nat, yet the Italian electorate decided to make him their Prime Minister FFS! And not once!

The point is Berlusconi is a powerful man, and at the end of the day he runs this club. What he says goes and that's that. The players respect him as their club president not as a politician or business man or corruption specialist.

And it's not about siding with anyone. It is a FACT (which you yourself like to speak of so much) that Berlu had to personally step in and pull the reins when Allegri had totally lost control of the situation.

[Jack Bauer]

Imagine what we would achieve if he would talk with them before every game. We would be invincible (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[X-Offender]

Imagine what we would achieve if he would talk with them before every game. We would be invincible (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

He has, actually. Ever since that Napoli game, he's come to Milanello before every Serie A game, except for the last one due to bad weather conditions or something.

[Fillipo Simone]

Well, he still has it in him. At least on some accounts. Nice to know some things don't change.