[han2503]

We're almost certainly losing El-Sha in January.

He's been our talisman this season - he's a top player, getting better with every match, and rich clubs will definitely fancy a punt at him.

It would be amazing if he's still here come February.

Nah, not a chance of that happening.

No matter how good he's been, he's still not going to generate the type of money we'd be willing to sell for. Once the offers exceed the 35m mark then we can start to worry about Galliani rubbing his hands in glee.

I don't think SES is there yet in terms of price tag

[Zed.D]

We're almost certainly losing El-Sha in January.

He's been our talisman this season - he's a top player, getting better with every match, and rich clubs will definitely fancy a punt at him.

It would be amazing if he's still here come February.

LOL how did you come up with that? 0% chance of that happening. I'm sure he will be at Milan next season as well. I mean, yes, we're a desperate selling club these days, but we're not THAT desperate. and as han said no one going to offer 30+ million for SES just yet anyway.

[Danny]

Mark my words, I would not be shocked if a 20M bid comes in and he's off.

Fact is half a season is a long time in football, and as far as clubs are concerned this guy is the real deal. We know he's very good and he's probably the most in-form striker in Serie A.

So how did I come up with that? The fact we're vulnerable, a selling club, and repeatedly shed our best players.

I admit there's not been any speculation but it just doesn't seem that far out to me.

[Zed.D]

I know what you're saying, but it's just too soon for other clubs to break the bank for him and for us to lose our best player and savior. he's certainly not going to be sold this winter. there would be a riot in Milan, we just recently sold Ibra and Silva. that's 3 years after we sold Kaka, so I guess SES will be at Milan for the next season or two. if he continues to impress like this, it'll be impossible to hold on to him in a few years' time though. unless we somehow stop being a selling club.

[Danny]

Not sure I'd agree about the 'too soon' thing - Oscar has JUST turned 21 and was a slightly 'unknown' quantity at Internacional when Chelsea fired 20M at them for him. He'd just had a brilliant season aged 19/20...

And El-Sha is in a much stronger and higher-profile league than the Brazilian one...

As for riot in Milan - not happening. We just keep selling our best players and the fans keep taking it. Only sign of objection is lower Serie A league attendances.

[milanbuf88]

Not sure I'd agree about the 'too soon' thing - Oscar has JUST turned 21 and was a slightly 'unknown' quantity at Internacional when Chelsea fired 20M at them for him. He'd just had a brilliant season aged 19/20...

And El-Sha is in a much stronger and higher-profile league than the Brazilian one...

As for riot in Milan - not happening. We just keep selling our best players and the fans keep taking it. Only sign of objection is lower Serie A league attendances.

There is 0% we sell SES for 20M. That's pretty much what we paid for him. If we get offers in the 35-40M range you might have to worry a little but I think you're just being paranoid.

[X-Offender]

Not sure I'd agree about the 'too soon' thing - Oscar has JUST turned 21 and was a slightly 'unknown' quantity at Internacional when Chelsea fired 20M at them for him. He'd just had a brilliant season aged 19/20...

And El-Sha is in a much stronger and higher-profile league than the Brazilian one...

As for riot in Milan - not happening. We just keep selling our best players and the fans keep taking it. Only sign of objection is lower Serie A league attendances.

Danny, I don't think you're up to date with the financials of this club (please, don't take it as an offense). Yes, we did sell Thiago and Ibra solely for the money, but it was a necessary move since we had a €75 million deficit for the 2012 fiscal year, and the FFP regulations allow the owners of a club to cover a maximum of €45 million of losses, until 2015, when the acceptable deviation will be further reduced to €30 million. Also, we managed to substantially cut our wage-bill from €156 million to €96 million this summer, which was the main cause of our deficit. This doesn't mean that we can finally start purchasing stars again, but it will allow us to breath some fresh air for a while and not be enforced to sell our best players.

[acid911]

Danny, I don't think you're up to date with the financials of this club (please, don't take it as an offense).

It's always funny when you say this, X-Offender. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Always.

[han2503]

Mark my words, I would not be shocked if a 20M bid comes in and he's off.

Fact is half a season is a long time in football, and as far as clubs are concerned this guy is the real deal. We know he's very good and he's probably the most in-form striker in Serie A.

So how did I come up with that? The fact we're vulnerable, a selling club, and repeatedly shed our best players.

I admit there's not been any speculation but it just doesn't seem that far out to me.

20m is still not an offer that would make a blip on Galliani's radar.

We paid a substantial amount for him plus losing out on a potentially good player in Merkel as well. SES won't be sold anytime soon, you can rest assured.

There is 0% we sell SES for 20M. That's pretty much what we paid for him. If we get offers in the 35-40M range you might have to worry a little but I think you're just being paranoid.

Exactly

Danny, I don't think you're up to date with the financials of this club (please, don't take it as an offense). Yes, we did sell Thiago and Ibra solely for the money, but it was a necessary move since we had a €75 million deficit for the 2012 fiscal year, and the FFP regulations allow the owners of a club to cover a maximum of €45 million of losses, until 2015, when the acceptable deviation will be further reduced to €30 million. Also, we managed to substantially cut our wage-bill from €156 million to €96 million this summer, which was the main cause of our deficit. This doesn't mean that we can finally start purchasing stars again, but it will allow us to breath some fresh air for a while and not be enforced to sell our best players.

Some other good points here. Also, SES is not on a big contract either. And once Robinho is out the door, we can breath easy in that department.

[Zed.D]

Where does you username come from anyway, X-Off? that Blondie song?

Not sure I'd agree about the 'too soon' thing - Oscar has JUST turned 21 and was a slightly 'unknown' quantity at Internacional when Chelsea fired 20M at them for him. He'd just had a brilliant season aged 19/20...

And El-Sha is in a much stronger and higher-profile league than the Brazilian one...

As for riot in Milan - not happening. We just keep selling our best players and the fans keep taking it. Only sign of objection is lower Serie A league attendances.

You say Oscar but amongst strikers, Neymar is more exciting and IMO higher than SES on top clubs' wishlist. yet he's still at Santos despite being 20 (that's too old for a promising Brazilian striker!). some clubs seem to spend money like maniacs but they can't sign everyone out there. personally I'm not at all worried about SES being sold any time soon.

This post has been edited by Zed.D: Dec 4 2012, 06:19 PM

[X-Offender]

It's always funny when you say this, X-Offender. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Always.

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Where does you username come from anyway, X-Off? that Blondie song?

Haha, people always mention that Blondie song when they ask about my username. No, it's from this.

[Fillipo Simone]

Blur song is better anyway (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

Mark my words, I would not be shocked if a 20M bid comes in and he's off.

Fact is half a season is a long time in football, and as far as clubs are concerned this guy is the real deal. We know he's very good and he's probably the most in-form striker in Serie A.

So how did I come up with that? The fact we're vulnerable, a selling club, and repeatedly shed our best players.

I admit there's not been any speculation but it just doesn't seem that far out to me.

Too early for SES to leave. However, if it is as you say, then we would be faced with two choice either we match the salary on offer (he's on a long term contract with us, so we dont have to budge really, unless he flips out on us..), while the other choice is to accept an astronomical fee for a 20 year old, something like 30MM plus.

We aren't a selling club, just that we cant afford the wage packages that Chelsea, Madrid, City.. are offering. Moreover, by April our new financial statements will be out, and we'll know if we are still a selling club or not.

[Danny]

There is 0% we sell SES for 20M. That's pretty much what we paid for him. If we get offers in the 35-40M range you might have to worry a little but I think you're just being paranoid.

We paid 10M Euros I was under the impression? I just double checked the price.

[X-Offender]

We aren't a selling club, just that we cant afford the wage packages that Chelsea, Madrid, City.. are offering. Moreover, by April our new financial statements will be out, and we'll know if we are still a selling club or not.

You always claim this, but it's completely untrue. Sheva, Kaká, Ibra and Thiago, they didn't leave because Chelsea, Real and PSG offered them higher wages, but either due to personal reasons (Sheva) or for us in order to cash in.