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Allegri's faiths
Should Allegri continue another term as Milan's coach next season?
Regardless of the seasons's outcome - No! [ 5 ] ** [22.73%]
If we don't win the scudetto - No! [ 4 ] ** [18.18%]
Regardless of the seasons's outcome! - Yes! [ 7 ] ** [31.82%]
If we win the scudetto - Yes! [ 6 ] ** [27.27%]
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Jack Sparrow
post Apr 30 2012, 04:48 PM
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Well I think if he continues with the plan/mindset he has shown this season he has to go out. But I will still give him one more year (as is written in his contract).

Remember Carlo was also criticised for being extra defensive. In fact in his first year at Milan we were mostly 5th or 6th throughout. It was only later that he hit upon that formula that satisfied everyone. I will open a tactics thread for next season where I hope we can discuss this better.
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post Apr 30 2012, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Apr 30 2012, 05:48 PM) *
Well I think if he continues with the plan/mindset he has shown this season he has to go out. But I will still give him one more year (as is written in his contract).

Remember Carlo was also criticised for being extra defensive. In fact in his first year at Milan we were mostly 5th or 6th throughout. It was only later that he hit upon that formula that satisfied everyone. I will open a tactics thread for next season where I hope we can discuss this better.

That's a great idea.

But problem is, Ancelotti did understand the concept of a midfield with vision, he coached Zidane after all, he had a Parma with vision prior to Milan and he played at a pretty flashy Milan earlier. My point is, although he was too defensive, he never misunderstood the importance of creation. Allegri seems to do just that - look at the players he's having trouble to find a place - it's Aquilani, it was Dinho, it's also Robinho to an extent.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 30 2012, 11:52 AM) *
That's a great idea.

But problem is, Ancelotti did understand the concept of a midfield with vision, he coached Zidane after all, he had a Parma with vision prior to Milan and he played at a pretty flashy Milan earlier. My point is, although he was too defensive, he never misunderstood the importance of creation. Allegri seems to do just that - look at the players he's having trouble to find a place - it's Aquilani, it was Dinho, it's also Robinho to an extent.

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post Apr 30 2012, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Apr 30 2012, 03:02 PM) *
Most people when they want Max out are falling into the same trap as people who want Pato, Rino, Seedorf etc etc out. Assuming that their going out automatically means someone of a higher quality is coming in as if these people were occupying space and that was the only reason management were not getting anyone in.


Rino and Seedorf are quality? It'd take nothing to replace washed up players like them. Same argument about Yepes, Zambrotta, Ambrosini, Inzaghi etc. If we could replace Nesta with Ogbonna and Bommel with Keita, then replacing the rest of the senators won't be a problem at all. Their current contribution to this team is practically null, and I can't see how Montolivo or Muntari can't do what Seedorf or Gattuso actually do, much, much better.

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 30 2012, 05:52 PM) *
But problem is, Ancelotti did understand the concept of a midfield with vision, he coached Zidane after all, he had a Parma with vision prior to Milan and he played at a pretty flashy Milan earlier. My point is, although he was too defensive, he never misunderstood the importance of creation. Allegri seems to do just that - look at the players he's having trouble to find a place - it's Aquilani, it was Dinho, it's also Robinho to an extent.


Exactly.
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post May 4 2012, 10:05 AM
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Well..this ends the debate. Pretty okay with this actually.

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Silvio Berlusconi has insisted that AC Milan have no intention to replace head coach Massimiliano Allegri at the end of the season.

A number of recent reports suggested that the Rossoneri were ready to part company with their current trainer if they fail to successfully defend their Serie A title.However, Berlusconi has now made it clear that the 44-year-old Allegri will still be the man in charge in the 2012-13 campaign.

“Do I still have faith in Allegri? Yes, I’ve already confirmed him as the Milan coach for next season,” Berlusconi stated to reporters.

Allegri was appointed Milan coach in the summer of 2010, and guided the San Siro side to the Scudetto in his first season in charge.

The Rossoneri currently sit second in the Serie A table, trailing leaders Juventus by one point with two more games to go.
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post May 4 2012, 10:08 AM
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Wait.. Silvio doing the right thing!? WHAT!?
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post May 4 2012, 12:27 PM
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Right decision. I don't want to go back to square one with a Rijkaard or Van Basten and let's face it, unless we add important players to the squad great managers won't risk their reputation to take this job. Max deserves one more year, hopefully with a healthy squad and a few good signings in the areas we're lacking. we should be OK.
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post May 4 2012, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 4 2012, 11:27 AM) *
Right decision. I don't want to go back to square one with a Rijkaard or Van Basten and let's face it, unless we add important players to the squad great managers won't risk their reputation to take this job. Max deserves one more year, hopefully with a healthy squad and a few good signings in the areas we're lacking. we should be OK.

Allegri's problem has always been his stubborn streak and pig headed attitude. He needs to fnd common ground with his players, especially the seniors who will be given a new contract.

What worries me is his attitude. If he's not willing to budge on certain issues such as the creative mid issue which has plagued us all season, than it will be another trophyless season next year. He needs to stop with this all muscle BS or we'll never achive anything, especially in Europe. and he needs to break up with Muntari because I simply cannot suffer through an entire season watching that idiot stumbling around in our shirt
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post May 4 2012, 01:58 PM
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It's not Muntari that bothers me. It's the fact that Muntari plays where we should have a creative figure..that bothers me.
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ May 4 2012, 02:58 PM) *
It's not Muntari that bothers me. It's the fact that Muntari plays where we should have a creative figure..that bothers me.


Precisely. I've already stated that I have no problem with Muntari being Nocerino's sub or playing sometimes instead of him, but what irks me is that Allegri deploys him as a playmaker, which is pretty insane.
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post May 4 2012, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ May 4 2012, 12:58 PM) *
It's not Muntari that bothers me. It's the fact that Muntari plays where we should have a creative figure..that bothers me.

Nah, it's him that bothers me, simply because he ruins everything he touches. Even if it was Aqui on the right and him on the left. I would still be pulling my hair out everytime I see him try to make some 'adventerous' play and instead he ends up looking like a complete tool. Or even watching him wait around for a pass instead of running for it and we lose the ball, or even worse, when he attempts to make the most easiest of passes and somehow manages to screw it up

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Precisely. I've already stated that I have no problem with Muntari being Nocerino's sub or playing sometimes instead of him, but what irks me is that Allegri deploys him as a playmaker, which is pretty insane.

But that still means you don't want him anywhere near the pitch as a regular, even if he's not taking Aqui's place
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post May 4 2012, 06:34 PM
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Han, you're exaggerating.
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post May 4 2012, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 4 2012, 06:34 PM) *
Han, you're exaggerating.

If you think I'm exxagerating then you haven't been watching him closely enough. You're willing to cover one eye and let it slide for some reason
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post May 4 2012, 07:52 PM
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LOL

If you think he's ruined everything he's touched then YOU have not been watching closely enough. I'm not defending him, he hasn't been good for us overall, but you're just exaggerating about how bad he is.

I've also noticed that it doesn't matter whether he has a disastrous game or just a bad one, you'll bash him BEFORE and AFTER the game to the same extent all the time anyway!
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He's done it before with Ambrosini, I'm just glad he's found Muntari now so I can calmly watch matches with Ambro and read our matchthread posts, mostly agreeing with Han (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Anyway, he tends to bend his theory to extremes. No, Muntari isn't an idiot and he certainly does things right, occasionally. But point is, in a sane world he'd have almost nothing to offer to a team/club like Milan.
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