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Allegri's faiths
Should Allegri continue another term as Milan's coach next season?
Regardless of the seasons's outcome - No! [ 5 ] ** [22.73%]
If we don't win the scudetto - No! [ 4 ] ** [18.18%]
Regardless of the seasons's outcome! - Yes! [ 7 ] ** [31.82%]
If we win the scudetto - Yes! [ 6 ] ** [27.27%]
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nuh
post Apr 25 2012, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 25 2012, 03:22 PM) *
Well you'll only be respected by the fans if you earn it. Allegri is clearly doing everything he can to un-earn any respect he gained from last season.

His attitude and decisions have put us in this situation. We simply cannot go into next season with him as our coach

i was talking about what seedorf did
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post Apr 25 2012, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE (nuh @ Apr 25 2012, 04:57 PM) *
i was talking about what seedorf did

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Well Seedorf is known to act out, but he always has his reasons for doing so. It's not just because he's simply substituted, but it goes deeper than that. There are clearly problems we don't know about right now
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post Apr 26 2012, 12:35 AM
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So, I was right about Allegri all along. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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post Apr 29 2012, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 9 2012, 09:47 PM) *
Rijkaard would be great. I wonder no-one's bothered to sign him after he left Spain. The reason Barça are the strongest team in the world is mainly attributable to his earlier work.


Never saw this post. I made this exact same point elsewhere.
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post Apr 29 2012, 06:09 PM
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Regardless of the seasons's outcome! - Yes!


I can't help but think that'd be Galliani's choice. at this point can't see him fired.
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post Apr 29 2012, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 9 2012, 04:47 PM) *
Regardless of the seasons's outcome - No!

Rijkaard would be great. I wonder no-one's bothered to sign him after he left Spain. The reason Barça are the strongest team in the world is mainly attributable to his earlier work.

He was at Galatasaray for a year or so, before getting sacked, and then most recently with the Saudi Arabian football team where they were eliminated from WC 2014 Qualifying group stage.

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post Apr 30 2012, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Apr 29 2012, 05:10 AM) *
Never saw this post. I made this exact same point elsewhere.


To quote Maggie Thatcher, "No! No..no...no!!"
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post Apr 30 2012, 01:08 PM
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Then who do you want? no MvB. no Frankie. not Allegri..
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post Apr 30 2012, 01:21 PM
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Probably Ancelotti.
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post Apr 30 2012, 02:02 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Not really no. Carlo would fail miserably with the team we have on our roster now.

This is why I don't want Max out. Most people when they want Max out are falling into the same trap as people who want Pato, Rino, Seedorf etc etc out. Assuming that their going out automatically means someone of a higher quality is coming in as if these people were occupying space and that was the only reason management were not getting anyone in. Whereas it's obvious that when they want to or when the price is right, the management has no problem pushing someone out. (Pirlo, Kaka, Sheva etc)

The fact is if were to be really dispassionate, we don't have good enough replacements for Max. Realistically there is Gasperini and Benitez. The rest of them are tied up or not quality enough.

Hiddink is not available and will not want this sort of pressure again.
Pep even without the Ibra factor, will not want to come to Milan where the media are worse and even the fans are not unconditional.
Spalletti said that he is not interested in moving away.
Same with Capello who said he doesn't wish to come to Milan without a project in place which is just not there.

To let a coach go without having any precise idea who to approach next and why (as I'm sure is the case) will be the downfall. It's always a surefire recipe for disaster and we have seen it happen to every time.

For me the way forward is for the management and the coach to sit together and do a clear discussion on where things are different. Like it or not, Max has to accept that it is Silvio who puts food on the table, and see if Silvio's demands can be met. For eg. If Silvio wants pretty football, then Max has to say Yes. But Max is within his right then to say that he wants Players or rather Player Types X, Y and Z.

The playing philosophy, the playing lineup, the training methods, the stadium turf...every single thing must be put on the agenda and discussed and resolved.
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post Apr 30 2012, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Apr 30 2012, 02:02 PM) *
Realistically there is Gasperini and Benitez. The rest of them are tied up or not quality enough.

To let a coach go without having any precise idea who to approach next and why (as I'm sure is the case) will be the downfall. It's always a surefire recipe for disaster and we have seen it happen to every time.

I'm not sure on Gasp. To me he's just a lesser Allegri. I do think he's a good coach and his short time at Inter was a bit of a fluke, but with what happened he'd be under added pressure at another top club, Allegri's already proven he's a winner here.

Benitez collapsed at the end of his Liverpool day and failed at Inter. Sometimes it's hard to recover from a numer of failures like that. You can see the pressure has got to him now and I don't think he'll ever have great success again.

I agree with your last point though, madness to do such a thing.
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post Apr 30 2012, 03:02 PM
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Gasperini would play his 3-4-3 rigidly. Plus he has even less experience than Allegri in Europe.

I used to dislike Benitez till I actually spoke to him face to face. He seems a nice chap with some good tactical knowledge. Plus he would play wingers (he told me this). But Benitez would need an old Milan hand as a director of football plus as assistant coach. He's not good with player management. And his over reliance on Spanish players is a problem.

But all in all...his ratings are really low, and I think he wouldn't be accepted by the players and the fans. Not to mention the Inter connection.
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post Apr 30 2012, 03:48 PM
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I don't see how keeping Allegri at this point is even a viable option. He's got half the squad exiled for no good reason. He simply has to be let go.

If things continue as they are, he won't win next season either. The team no longer backs him. And whether he's the greatest coach or the worst out there. That's the most fundamental aspect of having a successful team
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post Apr 30 2012, 04:01 PM
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Allegri from football-italia:

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Milan boss Massimiliano Allegri expects to still be bossing the Diavolo next season. “My work here is not done.”

Rumours are suggesting that club owner Silvio Berlusconi is thinking of replacing the tactician should he not deliver a second consecutive League title.

“I’m happy at Milan,” said the former Cagliari Coach who has a contract at San Siro until June 2014. “My work here has only just begun.

“I have an excellent relationship with Berlusconi and he told me to not think about the rumours which are circulating.”

The Rossoneri were looking good to retain their crown, but their Champions League exit to Barcelona was followed up by some lacklustre Serie A displays.

“We’re still in the hunt for the Scudetto despite the fact that our chances have been reduced,” added Allegri with his team three points shy of Juventus.

“We reached the last eight of the Champions League and we are fighting for the title. We have to win against Atalanta in order to not give Juventus the title mathematically.

“Of course I hoped that Juve wouldn’t win at Novara, as I hope they don’t get the points versus Lecce. We just can’t make any mistakes.”

Some at Milan are blaming the club’s League position on injuries, but Allegri has another theory. “We are paying the price for a difficult start.

“Last term we collected eight points in the first five games, this time around we only got five.

“It’s clear that when you net so few and are up against a Juventus side who are collecting results then you can’t allow yourselves to make a mistake.”


A much better interview from him. Now we have to close out this season in the best way possible and head back to the drawing board.
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post Apr 30 2012, 04:31 PM
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I honestly want him out. I don't see his plan for Milan compatible with what Milan supposed to be/represent, and frankly, I really fear the day when his plan for Milan will be completed.
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