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 Jul 19 2011, 03:04 AM
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Berretti  Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736  |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 19 2011, 06:44 AM)  Especially Elano's. What the hell was that??? Yeah, and to think what he came in for. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Elano has a reputation for being a dead ball specialist, free kicks, penalties, and what not. It almost seemed like this was his first spot kick, ever, let alone a shootout. His stupid, stupid shot set the tone for the rest of the kicks, which in the end were almost as bad. But then again, the camera panned to Maicon (as well as the Brazilian team) before the start of the shootout, and their faces and expressions were exactly those like the ones I saw before - that night in Istanbul, 2005. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Down and out spirits. I told the friends who were watching the match with me that this is it, Paraguay are going through. Little did I know that I would be watching the worst performance in a shootout. Ever. Of All Time. Somebody punch me! |
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Jul 19 2011, 03:58 AM
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Berretti  Group: Moderators Posts: 12,004 Joined: 1-August 05 From: Torquay Member No.: 90 |
So after seeing this I'm still not at all sold on Neymar, he's flashy & he's Brazilian but that's about it. If I had the choice I'd take Sanchez over and above him, with better players around him he will be quality, Neymar just seems like another of these hyped Brazilian kids.
As for Ganso, well from these performances if that's our future, I'm looking forward to trying to qualify for the Europa League. |
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Jul 19 2011, 09:17 AM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
Haha, well said!!
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Jul 19 2011, 11:22 AM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
I never really understood what Ganso's role was in this Brazil team. He just looked like a fish out of water. From what I've seen he's more in his element playing a possession game, which is why I believe he'd be good in our system.
Also you really can't judge players on their performances in summer tournaments, we've seen this being proven time and again |
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Jul 19 2011, 11:49 AM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 8,034 Joined: 4-May 08 From: Pakistan Member No.: 3,873 |
well atleast it would bring ganso price tag down..
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Jul 19 2011, 12:35 PM
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Berretti Group: Moderators Posts: 12,004 Joined: 1-August 05 From: Torquay Member No.: 90 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 19 2011, 11:22 AM) Also you really can't judge players on their performances in summer tournaments, we've seen this being proven time and again I'm not completely sold on this, if he had scored a few, and tore teams apart we wouldn't be rating him more? It works both ways in my mind. |
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Jul 19 2011, 12:46 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Jul 19 2011, 12:35 PM) I'm not completely sold on this, if he had scored a few, and tore teams apart we wouldn't be rating him more? It works both ways in my mind. Sure there would be more excitment, etc sarrounding him. But I still wouldn't be as convinced about him until I see him playing an entire season in Europe. |
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Jul 19 2011, 01:58 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 19 2011, 12:22 PM) Also you really can't judge players on their performances in summer tournaments, we've seen this being proven time and again Exactly, Oguchi Onyewu being the finest example. I think Ganso would be perfect for us. |
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Jul 19 2011, 02:08 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
Germans (well... ) are the best example in looking better with their NT I believe...
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Jul 19 2011, 03:57 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 19 2011, 02:08 PM) Germans (well... ) are the best example in looking better with their NT I believe... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Agreed there Podolski and Klose immediately spring to mind |
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Jul 19 2011, 11:11 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
I can't agree there. I still think they are valuable.
Podolski is a special story, but all in all - his fine finishing flourishes for Germany, while at Köln or even at Bayern he never had the creative force behind him or always had better strikers to compete with. Klose? What are you guys talking about? He was a Bundesliga monster for years, at Bremen and at Bayern. He was phenomenal. Now he's faded, in both departments. Naah, sure we cannot rate Ganso on this sole tournament, but hey, we also cannot act like it didn't happen. Ganso was there, played 4 matches, none of them very good. |
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Jul 19 2011, 11:31 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
Klose a phenomenon? Seriously? Come on. Not that he's just any player but nowhere near a phenomenon really.
I think the same applies for Schweinsteiger and Lahm, I've never seen them perform for club as good as they've performed for their NT. |
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Jul 20 2011, 12:14 AM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
Lahm, now there's an overrated player. So poor defensively.
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Jul 20 2011, 12:52 AM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
Lahm is not overrated.
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Jul 20 2011, 01:13 AM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
Naturally. Especially in these days, when good fullbacks can be counted with one hand.
Schweini still has plenty of time. But he's been and he'll become what Effenberg was to FCB, only without his temper and bitterness. Klose at his days in Werder was a great player, he was a total liability, he scored whenever needed. So, yes, it think you guys forgot that. He was consistently doing very good for a few seasons in a row. The Klose of today,...well..he's near being finished. |
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