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post May 21 2011, 04:38 PM
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post May 21 2011, 05:22 PM
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What is this? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) is it recent?
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post May 21 2011, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ May 21 2011, 04:55 PM) *
That's because your assesment is only based on your biased personal oppinion. I find it hard to count more then 5 people who are Milan fans which have the same oppinion as you do on Pirlo.

And your personal opinion isn't biased? Why do you act like what I say is all biased and so? It's really not appreciated in a discussion. By the way, I can count easily 5 Milan fans who think the same as me, without blinking my eyes.

And just because we don't like looking for stats doesn't mean it's BS we say. It's not our fault you cannot remember (or simply don't want to) that we had great runs when Pirlo got injured, not only this season, but also when:

QUOTE (Dracoris @ May 21 2011, 04:53 PM) *
p.s. Two years ago Pirlo was injured under Ancellotti. Seedorf played in his position and we won more games without him than with him. I'm not going to show you any stats because it will just be a waste of my time. Look it up if you want, but anyone with a proper memory will know its true already. That is why I said 3 years. That is also about the time since our last CL when, I think it at least used to be regarded by the Milan public that our old guard, including Pirlo, started drastically dropping their performance level.


And I will you explain why we are usually better without Pirlo than with, since that's something too complicated for you to understand. Of course, Pirlo has got a great pass in him, with great vision. Yeah, we all remember those beauty key passes he gives few each match. But for what price? For the price slowing us down, giving the opponent the time to get in shape; Pirlo makes it harder for Milan to score with the way he plays. And as a midfielder (since he is not an attacking midfielder) you need to defend also. Sure, Pirlo makes many miles during a match, but how? He walks slowly back to our own half when the opponent attacks, just to be there, thinking he's defending.. but who is he defending? Mostly no one, rarely chasing the ball, rarely marking someone. Of course, sometimes he does make a nice defensive play (or in one game (vs Real) he had a whole match good defensive play - but that's unfortunality an exception), but just not often enough.* It's no coincidence Milan concedes way more goals with Pirlo in midfield than without. He isn't combative enough, far from it, and that's exactly the reason why Allegri is more than okay letting him go. Which is a very nice vision from our coach. I can't wait for us to sign his replacement. That's going to be a very good one, and it will make our midfield way better.

*By the way.. when Seedorf played in 2011 in front of the defense (and as LCM also), he was way more combative, really giving his all to get to the opponents,getting the ball back to our team, really nice to see, something I miss seeing in Pirlo (most of the times). Seedorf showed this recently skill I don't expect from Pirlo. But, unfortunality, Seedorf is someone who doesn't always show this good form either.. I'm kinda disappointed in both

edit: and I didn't even mention how easily Pirlo gets marked and therefore being useless most of the match. This happens usually in CL/big games. Against weaker sides Pirlo actually is a good player for us, I think? But against the big boys? Please, no thank you! Or don't you remember all those players that's successfully marked Pirlo the whole game? Like J-S Park, and many others... we need a creative CM that is combative, and excels in big games, NOT Pirlo

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post May 21 2011, 07:06 PM
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sadly its time for pirlo to say goodbye. whether hes going to juve or us. i dont know yet but well guys look back on the good this player gave the club. (IMG:http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m3/may2007/2/4/BCE54775-BB3F-2231-77B0EBC30F282333.jpg)

And 10 years ago would u have thought this guy coming from Inter milan would become one of the clubs best ever players. pretty not sadly its the beginning of a new era and some older guys with fond memories they gave (cl win 2003,2007) sheva pirlo seedorf Costacurta etc etc are all gone or going. sad thing to see them leave but well now theres new guys coming up like pato merkel etc look forward to hopefully a happy new era
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post May 21 2011, 07:15 PM
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Totally agreed, Kazdoodle. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) While it is sad to see Pirlo leave, it is probably for the best, and now we must look forward to a new age for the club. I make it a point to remember the players who played in the red and black shirt in good memories and their best moments, and our #21 is no different.
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post May 22 2011, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE (Kazdoodle @ May 21 2011, 07:06 PM) *
sadly its time for pirlo to say goodbye. whether hes going to juve or us. i dont know yet but well guys look back on the good this player gave the club. (IMG:http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m3/may2007/2/4/BCE54775-BB3F-2231-77B0EBC30F282333.jpg)

And 10 years ago would u have thought this guy coming from Inter milan would become one of the clubs best ever players. pretty not sadly its the beginning of a new era and some older guys with fond memories they gave (cl win 2003,2007) sheva pirlo seedorf Costacurta etc etc are all gone or going. sad thing to see them leave but well now theres new guys coming up like pato merkel etc look forward to hopefully a happy new era

If that were the case then the club would have let go Ambro, Seedorf and Rino as well (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post May 22 2011, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ May 19 2011, 07:58 PM) *
Allegri benched Seedorf for a major portion of the season. When did Seedorf actually pick up his game? When his time was coming up! Sorry but he's not a reliable player, especially not when he's played a lot, play him twice a wekk and you end up with 10 men on the pitch.

No, we need someone who can come in, who is top quality and immediately take that midfield slot, Seedorf is only a sub, and if he cannot respect that then he should go. Also Carlo shouldn't even be considered in this, his midfield 5 of Rino, Ambro, Pirlo, Seedorf and Kaka was untouachable. Seedorf practically walked aound for the most part under Carlo and still got in.

Seedorf this season was on the bench once better and more motivated players were brought in, it was only when we had our backs to the wall with barely a midfield left that he got his chanc, which he took because he had his future to think about.


Ah yes ... You got him all figured out don't you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)
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post May 22 2011, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 21 2011, 04:22 PM) *
is it recent?

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post May 22 2011, 03:18 PM
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Alessandro Nesta waves goodbye to Milan teammate Andrea Pirlo. “He’s one of the last who can be called a football genius.”

The club decided not to renew his contract, so Pirlo will play his final game for the Rossoneri this evening before heading to Juventus.

“Pirlo is one of the last who can be called a football genius,” Nesta told La Stampa newspaper.

“He sometimes looks like he might be asleep, but he is really a rock in the locker room and is worth 10 men.

“Friendship does exist in football and we are very close, so it’s a shame to see him leave, but it is only right that he chooses his path.”

Nesta’s contract was also set to expire on June 30, but he has extended until 2012.

“I have no intention of hanging up my boots. I lost a year due to my back injury and I intend to get it back. If it won’t be here at Milan, then it will be abroad.

“Nobody knows what will happen in the future. I would like to be a Coach, but I realise it’s not something I am cut out for.

“I am too close to my wife and two children, so I couldn’t stand continually packing their bags to drag them around the country following work.”


Nice interview with nesta about Pirlo,and his career.
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post May 22 2011, 03:20 PM
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I'd definitively can imagine Nesta and Pirlo at Milan's helm in 10 years as a coaching team.
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post May 22 2011, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ May 22 2011, 09:22 AM) *
Ah yes ... You got him all figured out don't you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)

hmm, I think it was pretty obvious, let's stop trying to make Seedorf out to be a Saint...
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post May 22 2011, 05:02 PM
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Seedorf is not a Saint. He is a general. And thanks to Pirlo's departure our last remaining mid-field general. Ambro and Rino remain sentinels. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 22 2011, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ May 22 2011, 05:02 PM) *
Seedorf is not a Saint. He is a general. And thanks to Pirlo's departure our last remaining mid-field general. Ambro and Rino remain sentinels. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Let's see whether he decides to stay on as second fiddle first (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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