[Rossoneri7]

It's only a good move if we sign someone better then Pirlo. If we don't then it's a terrible decision, especially if our only solution come next season will ounce again, be Seedorf

Again with Seedorf ... If three coaches come to Milan and all three of them start with Seedorf, doesn't that ounce again in your head ? Please, drop it.

[Danny]

imho we got the best years out of Pirlo. And I was always puzzled as to what kind of midfielder he is; is he a DM? An AM? A trequartista? He himself doesn't seem to know, and neither did Allegri.

Because of the way Carlo moulded him from an AM to a DM despite maybe not having all the attributes to do that job, it kind of left him in the unique position of being a midfielder who didn't really tick all the boxes of any of the midfield positions.

The way I view him is he has excellent vision and at times great skill on the ball, but lacks pace and many of his passes go astray.

He's not a player I think that we really need any more, and I also feel he's past his best so we're best to move on.

As for whose decision this was, Pirlo said one minute he wanted to stay, then next minute said bye. So I get the feeling it's weighted more on Allegri's shoulders.

[CHU-LIP]

imho we got the best years out of Pirlo. And I was always puzzled as to what kind of midfielder he is; is he a DM? An AM? A trequartista? He himself doesn't seem to know, and neither did Allegri.

He's not an AM/trequartista. He used to be a DM, but now he simply cannot do that anymore for us. Which leaves only 1 position for Pirlo: CM. Pirlo has become a CM, just because he sucks everywhere else.

[han2503]

Again with Seedorf ... If three coaches come to Milan and all three of them start with Seedorf, doesn't that ounce again in your head ? Please, drop it.

Allegri benched Seedorf for a major portion of the season. When did Seedorf actually pick up his game? When his time was coming up! Sorry but he's not a reliable player, especially not when he's played a lot, play him twice a wekk and you end up with 10 men on the pitch.

No, we need someone who can come in, who is top quality and immediately take that midfield slot, Seedorf is only a sub, and if he cannot respect that then he should go. Also Carlo shouldn't even be considered in this, his midfield 5 of Rino, Ambro, Pirlo, Seedorf and Kaka was untouachable. Seedorf practically walked aound for the most part under Carlo and still got in.

Seedorf this season was on the bench once better and more motivated players were brought in, it was only when we had our backs to the wall with barely a midfield left that he got his chanc, which he took because he had his future to think about.

He's not an AM/trequartista. He used to be a DM, but now he simply cannot do that anymore for us. Which leaves only 1 position for Pirlo: CM. Pirlo has become a CM, just because he sucks everywhere else.

Pirlo was never a DM! He was played in the position but was never expected to do what a DM does, that is why he had Rino as his bodygaurd. Once Rino started to wain, Pirlo's defensive incapabilities started to show

[CHU-LIP]

Pirlo was never a DM! He was played in the position but was never expected to do what a DM does, that is why he had Rino as his bodygaurd. Once Rino started to wain, Pirlo's defensive incapabilities started to show

Of course Pirlo is not a typical DM, of course not, but he used to be so much better in that position, and not only because of Gattuso. Like you said: he played in that position, so that makes him a DM I'd say... and years ago his defending skills were much better than it is nowadays.

[han2503]

Of course Pirlo is not a typical DM, of course not, but he used to be so much better in that position, and not only because of Gattuso. Like you said: he played in that position, so that makes him a DM I'd say... and years ago his defending skills were much better than it is nowadays.

Pirlo is a deep-lying playmaker. I never called him a DM just because of where he played. Pirlo started going down when Rino did imo, they used to complement each other to a T. Rino started playing bad and Pirlo was exposed. Then the tactical problems with Pirlo's positioning ensued. We had Rino and ambro playing higher up the pitch thn Pirlo, leaving Pirlo to do all the defensive work while Rino and Ambro played as box-to-box, that was the biggest tactical (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I've ever seen...

Then under Allegri he had a lot of trouble adjusting the team because of getting hit by a lot of counters, and when things started to really work with Pirlo on the left he got injured and now Allegri just didn't even seem bothered with trying

[CHU-LIP]

Pirlo is a deep-lying playmaker.

I know that, but I wasn't given that option by Danny. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

As deep-lying playmaker, he was a defensive playmaker, making sort of a defensive midfielder, I mean, if anything, it makes more sense than calling him an AM or trequarista. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Oh, and eh, Ambrosini can do everything, also box-to-boxing... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

This post has been edited by CHU-LIP: May 19 2011, 06:25 PM

[Danny]

Can anyone else think of another 'deep lying playmaker' or was that label contrived purely for Pirlo?

[CHU-LIP]

Can anyone else think of another 'deep lying playmaker' or was that label contrived purely for Pirlo?

Sahin

[han2503]

I know that, but I wasn't given that option by Danny. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

As deep-lying playmaker, he was a defensive playmaker, making sort of a defensive midfielder, I mean, if anything, it makes more sense than calling him an AM or trequarista. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Oh, and eh, Ambrosini can do everything, also box-to-boxing... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

Well in Italy he's called a regista, a trequartista plays behind the strikers. Still it shows how great Pirlo s to invent a position that is all his own, and I wouldn't really call Sahin a deep-lying playmaker, he's a CM imo

Ambro can barely run anymore, let alone go from box-to-box

[anano1214]

Top 10 Andrea Pirlo moments for AC Milan

http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial...ts-for-ac-milan

[MizNelson]

I hope you are familiar with the faces of Thiago Silva, Abate and Pato already (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

It's not the same, though. Those late-2000s teams seem like eons ago.

[Fillipo Simone]

From the comments being made I really don't think so. I think Pirlo is fine playing left of midfield. Allegri just doesn't think he fits in anywhere in the midfield which is complete cr@p imo

Why a sane man would want to leave the champions to the imploding team called Juve is beyond me

+1

Agree with all what's han been saying about Pirlo.

Pirlo has become a CM, just because he sucks everywhere else.

Gee, your bashing is unbelievable. Can't really understand it, it's like you badly want him to appear useless, bad, unworthy of your admiration, etc. just so you can get over the fact that we lost a true gentleman, a player with finesse, character and unbelievable footballing charm. Milan will never replace Andrea's uniqueness.

[anano1214]

Pirlo in tears greeted the team.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0eTV4HnWRk

[dst]

why? can't we still sign him? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I'll even accept it as one of Galliani's new signings!