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post Apr 5 2011, 02:38 AM
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He's not Milan quality simply because his finishing sucks? That's something that can be fixed with basic training. It's the qualities of the player that matter.
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post Apr 5 2011, 10:44 AM
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Basic training? He's 27 I assume he has had some basic training by now...

It's certainly not a matter of training and he can't get better... I have not seen anyone that was such a bad finisher become significantly better. it's not a matter of whether he can aim, it's a matter of whether he can keep his cool when he's having a good chance to score... and he looks like a 15 year old who's in front of goal for the first time!
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post Apr 5 2011, 11:09 AM
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+1. I think in some ways he's still that young kid from Santos. Even the stubble can't hide his babyface. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Apr 5 2011, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Apr 5 2011, 02:44 PM) *
Basic training? He's 27 I assume he has had some basic training by now...

Classic dst. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

QUOTE (dst @ Apr 5 2011, 02:44 PM) *
It's certainly not a matter of training and he can't get better... I have not seen anyone that was such a bad finisher become significantly better. it's not a matter of whether he can aim, it's a matter of whether he can keep his cool when he's having a good chance to score... and he looks like a 15 year old who's in front of goal for the first time!

+2. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) If the guy can't finish maybe he should try to set more goals up most of the time he gets a chance. If we put this type of finishing up against United, Barca, Madrid, and friends, we are going to get hit hard where it hurts like no other.
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post Apr 5 2011, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Apr 5 2011, 01:49 PM) *
+2. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) If the guy can't finish maybe he should try to set more goals up most of the time he gets a chance. If we put this type of finishing up against United, Barca, Madrid, and friends, we are going to get hit hard where it hurts like no other.

But he won't be our main striker... Pato or Zlatan should be... for example look at the derby last weekend... he makes our team better and also Pato who more likely will score... look: two goals vs Inter... with Robinho, and Boateng as AM... and earlier... I loved our Zlatan + Robinho attack, again one main striker and Robinho being the other... not three forwards, no, just two... problem kinda having both Pato and Zlatan, while I only want one to play... when both play Pato won't be the main striker and he won't be as good as he can be... maybe Zlatan should leave in Summer since I prefer to keep Pato, and sign a forward who either doesn't necessary has to start or can play a supporting role like Robinho (also)... there is more you need than scoring abilities, and that's what Robinho offers.

In CL (since you mention those teams) I hoped we played with Pato and Robinho up front, and no Zlatan, who fails in CL anyway... I believe we would have been better with Pato as our main striker in CL supported by Robinho (and Boateng)... look at Spurs, two games, zero goals... and we played with both Pato and Zlatan, our two goalscoring players and not so little, shows there is more needed than scoring, and also Robinho played, we played with three forwards, no goals though... no, three forwards not necessary means more goals... are you reading this, han? Addiction to my previous post in Fiorentina match thread. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Apr 5 2011, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 4 2011, 09:38 PM) *
He's not Milan quality simply because his finishing sucks? That's something that can be fixed with basic training. It's the qualities of the player that matter.

Like not taking basic training seriously for a year...
i hate how people get bedazzled by his dribbles and ignore other, more vital aspects of a striker.
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post Apr 5 2011, 07:11 PM
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But he isn't a striker. For lack of a better word, he seems to be our attacking water-carrier. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I'm gonna patent this term. I think in the next 10 years this will become a crucial position. Like how the deep lying playmaker became big over the last decade. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Apr 5 2011, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Apr 5 2011, 05:36 PM) *
But he won't be our main striker... Pato or Zlatan should be... for example look at the derby last weekend... he makes our team better and also Pato who more likely will score... look: two goals vs Inter... with Robinho, and Boateng as AM... and earlier... I loved our Zlatan + Robinho attack, again one main striker and Robinho being the other... not three forwards, no, just two... problem kinda having both Pato and Zlatan, while I only want one to play... when both play Pato won't be the main striker and he won't be as good as he can be... maybe Zlatan should leave in Summer since I prefer to keep Pato, and sign a forward who either doesn't necessary has to start or can play a supporting role like Robinho (also)... there is more you need than scoring abilities, and that's what Robinho offers.

In CL (since you mention those teams) I hoped we played with Pato and Robinho up front, and no Zlatan, who fails in CL anyway... I believe we would have been better with Pato as our main striker in CL supported by Robinho (and Boateng)... look at Spurs, two games, zero goals... and we played with both Pato and Zlatan, our two goalscoring players and not so little, shows there is more needed than scoring, and also Robinho played, we played with three forwards, no goals though... no, three forwards not necessary means more goals... are you reading this, han? Addiction to my previous post in Fiorentina match thread.

Can't say I agree with all of them, but fair enough points. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I personally consider the guy a forward, a part of the attack, if not an all out striker. And if he has an opportunity to score then he should. Just like when R80 was here, I can count a whole bunch of chances that he could have put in if he took the shot. But oh well.
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post Apr 6 2011, 09:53 AM
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I personally consider the guy a forward, a part of the attack, if not an all out striker. And if he has an opportunity to score then he should.


Exactly. I don't think just because "he's not a striker" it means it's justified when he screws up all those 1on1's. I think the fact he finds himself all alone in front of the goal so many times only means that he is a striker and should put them in more than he does.
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post Apr 6 2011, 10:18 AM
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Agreed, Zed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif) It's the job of our attacking three to score goals, the midfielders can help if they can, but that is not something that is required of them. Few would blame if KPB, Seedorf, Flamini, Bommel, Pirlo and others can't score, but if either of Pato, Ibra or Robinho are going t miss, then fingers will be raised and pointed.
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QUOTE (dst @ Apr 5 2011, 11:44 AM) *
Basic training? He's 27 I assume he has had some basic training by now...

It's certainly not a matter of training and he can't get better... I have not seen anyone that was such a bad finisher become significantly better. it's not a matter of whether he can aim, it's a matter of whether he can keep his cool when he's having a good chance to score... and he looks like a 15 year old who's in front of goal for the first time!


Well, his finishing hasn't been so bad in the past. He's always known how to score. It's just this period with Milan that he's lost some of that spark. Personally, I think Robinho is capable of much more than what we've seen of him so far.
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post Apr 6 2011, 04:31 PM
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Yeah, but he's gotta move fast now. It's not like he's 19 anymore.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 6 2011, 04:05 PM) *
Well, his finishing hasn't been so bad in the past. He's always known how to score. It's just this period with Milan that he's lost some of that spark. Personally, I think Robinho is capable of much more than what we've seen of him so far.


I agree .. Robinho seems to lack confidence when faced with the goal, he had misfired more shots that he had scored by a huge margin .. That said, he is an important tactical player .. He moves into channels, opens space for his team-mates, brings the midfield into the attacking-fold on most occasions, has understood Italian football in just his first season, and most importantly he keeps on going forward with confidence despite him squandering dozens of chances.
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Apr 5 2011, 02:09 PM) *
+1. I think in some ways he's still that young kid from Santos. Even the stubble can't hide his babyface. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 7 2011, 07:32 AM) *
I agree .. Robinho seems to lack confidence when faced with the goal, he had misfired more shots that he had scored by a huge margin .. That said, he is an important tactical player .. He moves into channels, opens space for his team-mates, brings the midfield into the attacking-fold on most occasions, has understood Italian football in just his first season, and most importantly he keeps on going forward with confidence despite him squandering dozens of chances.


Agreed. Eto'o was nowhere near as devastating last season with Inter as he's been this season. He scored only 16 goals in 47 games. I think Robinho has adapted very well to Italian football. By next season, I expect him to return the world class player we admired in Madrid and Brazil.

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