[Rossoneri7]

Why not try to push Pirlo a little more forward this time, since we miss Ibra?

I don't miss him

[KillerMax]

I don't miss him

Me either. I thank him for his immense contribution toward our table standing, but I think both parties would be better off if he found himself a new team. Pato and another quality striker is enough for us to be competitive.

[kurtsimonw]

I'm not so sure, I think Ibra is generally harshly treated because of his reputation.

When we don't play well or score, it seems to always fall on Ibra. Even though our other attacks didn't play well or do anything, they seem to get away criticism free.

[Jack Sparrow]

+1 actually. Ibra's rep is the reason.

Basically we're saying we want Ibra out coz he doesn't pull magic out of his hat like he did early in the season. Against Spurs, I can count enough instances in the second leg, where Ibra made some plays which Pato and Robinho messed up. I understood what Ibra meant when he said, he preferred playing with Pippo.

Robinho messes up the simplest of chances..and Pato still can't pass. Do we nail them to the cross? We don't...and we shouldn't. Somehow Ibra is just sentenced without a trial. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[Zed.D]

Do we nail them to the cross? We don't.

Oh you do (not YOU, specifically. people.) do you want me to collect all the Pato and Robinho bash posts for you?

What on earth are you guys talking about, they get away criticism free? (funny how Kurt of all people says this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) )

[Jack Sparrow]

It's one thing to criticise. It's another thing to say get rid of them. Objectivity....

[Zed.D]

People want to get rid of him because he's a ****. I'm not one of them, but I can see why...

[Jack Sparrow]

I'd love to see examples of him actually being a ****. Coz he shouts at team mates? Really? And how many of them shout back? I mean you'd figure if he was such an annoying person who irritated and disrespected his team mates, they would attempt and give back as good as they got right?

That maybe his team mates would say something else, other than praising him to the skies. That maybe if him and pato had a serious falling out, Pato wouldn't be dry humping him when they were celebrating right???


People have a theory..and they just keep plucking at scraps to justify it. It's like they want Ibra to fail..just so they can say they were right.

[Zed.D]

Oh come on, it's as obvious as day and night (do they say it like this in English? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) great footballer he is, but everyone knows he's got issues. and I was talking about some of us fans wanting to get rid of him, not his teammates! (look at R7 and Max's posts above). I never said he's a **** because he shouts at his teammates and makes faces, I don't believe they mean anything.

This post has been edited by Zed.D: Mar 15 2011, 11:38 AM

[Fillipo Simone]

I don't know about you, but to me it's crystall clear why Ibra gots different treatment. It's absurd wanting to treat them equally when they are not! It's not the shouting, it's beyond that - he's a dirtbag player, an attacker that often collects red cards and kicks opponents - just ask Motta, Mihajlovic, Dacourt, and dozens other players who came across his path. When he's playing badly he starts to behave with frustration and anger, thinking more and more about himself and less about the team.

How could I prefer this selfish, bad-tempered, arrogant, annoying and wild thing over a player who might has a day off or even is in a bad phase but represents a normal Milan player one could easily admire or celebrate.

I am happy when Ibra scores for Milan, but inside I am ashamed a bit because I know it's not what Milan used to be or even should be. It's not his reputation in the past, it's the simple fact that in one season (which isn't even over yet) he proved all the bad things around him still exist - he kicked a teammate, he made fun of another, he got a red card, he managed to hurt an opponent player. The only thing lacking is a fight all Inter vs. Valencia.

[RinoIlCapitano]

Kalac??? Are you high, Dracoris? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Also, Allegri will NEVER prefer Emanuelson to Gattuso. Here's how I'd play, if no injuries occur till the derby.

Abbiati
Abate - Nesta - T. Silva - Antonini
Gattuso - Pirlo - Boateng
Robinho
Pato - Cassano

We need Boateng in midfield as box-to-box, not as trequartista.

Very nice starting 11! Maybe even van bomel instead of gattuso because he can make something with the ball in terms of organizing but i highly doubt it knowing Allegri...

[dst]

I'd love to see examples of him actually being a ****.

Didn't he just punch an opponent in the stomach?

I don't know about you, but to me it's crystall clear why Ibra gots different treatment. It's absurd wanting to treat them equally when they are not! It's not the shouting, it's beyond that - he's a dirtbag player, an attacker that often collects red cards and kicks opponents - just ask Motta, Mihajlovic, Dacourt, and dozens other players who came across his path. When he's playing badly he starts to behave with frustration and anger, thinking more and more about himself and less about the team.

How could I prefer this selfish, bad-tempered, arrogant, annoying and wild thing over a player who might has a day off or even is in a bad phase but represents a normal Milan player one could easily admire or celebrate.

I am happy when Ibra scores for Milan, but inside I am ashamed a bit because I know it's not what Milan used to be or even should be. It's not his reputation in the past, it's the simple fact that in one season (which isn't even over yet) he proved all the bad things around him still exist - he kicked a teammate, he made fun of another, he got a red card, he managed to hurt an opponent player. The only thing lacking is a fight all Inter vs. Valencia.

What Fillipo said.

[Jack Sparrow]

Ah...but then that's not what's happening is it? It's his performance in the last two matches that's being put under the microscope.

He's not a gentleman like Sheva...but who else would we have got? Haven't we had enough nice guys come by and finish last?

I'm not saying keep him and let him retire. I agree with his agent he'll probably switch about 3 sides before he retires. But I don't regret his purchase one bit. At 24 million to be paid in instalments, he's probably the purchase of the season.

[Ry4n]

I don't know about you, but to me it's crystall clear why Ibra gots different treatment. It's absurd wanting to treat them equally when they are not! It's not the shouting, it's beyond that - he's a dirtbag player, an attacker that often collects red cards and kicks opponents - just ask Motta, Mihajlovic, Dacourt, and dozens other players who came across his path. When he's playing badly he starts to behave with frustration and anger, thinking more and more about himself and less about the team.

How could I prefer this selfish, bad-tempered, arrogant, annoying and wild thing over a player who might has a day off or even is in a bad phase but represents a normal Milan player one could easily admire or celebrate.

I am happy when Ibra scores for Milan, but inside I am ashamed a bit because I know it's not what Milan used to be or even should be. It's not his reputation in the past, it's the simple fact that in one season (which isn't even over yet) he proved all the bad things around him still exist - he kicked a teammate, he made fun of another, he got a red card, he managed to hurt an opponent player. The only thing lacking is a fight all Inter vs. Valencia.

Thank god he's a mercenary and they never stay long (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

This post has been edited by Ry4n: Mar 15 2011, 12:41 PM

[Fillipo Simone]

I agree, it's a pact out of neccesity. But he should learn to behave and think about the team. The red card he got against Bari could cost us dearly, and it was obvious that he didn't even think what his actions might bring to us.

For now he's good, but as soon as a chance comes by to get another striker, I'd be happy to see him saying goodbye.