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> CL - Round of Last 16 - Tottenham - Milan (2nd leg), Date: 09/03/11 Time: 19:45 GMT 1st Leg: 1-0 Spurs

 
Fillipo Simone
post Mar 7 2011, 09:48 PM
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Chu, you're just exaggerating too much. I can't agree that Seedorf has been "that bad" nor can I say that it's Merkel has to play because he had "more good games." It's absurd. For god sake, Merkel played one good game, and it was a Coppa match. Beside that he's a manace to Milan from a defensive standpoint, Seedorf loosing possesion is nothing compared to that! I cannot understand the confidence you have in writing Seedorf totally off; 'many many games' - what does that mean? He was also good a few times, even more then Merkel.
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post Mar 7 2011, 09:55 PM
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''Beside that he's a manace to Milan from a defensive standpoint'' F. Simone

And Seedorf isn't ?!?!?!?!

''He was also good a few times, even more then Merkel. '' F. Simone

Not in the second half of this season. Even in the games he makes assists, he played awful IMO, same goed for the match he scored - it was the only thing he did well, rest of the match he was AWFUL. Merkel did better IMO.

I don't believe Seedorf is able to play good matches anymore. He can do good things, as in giving a good pass, or score that one time. But for the rest, he will suck, ruining all our attacks, losing possesion all the time. It's ruining us. Merkel is not awesome, but Merkel is not THAT bad. I wish we had a better option than Merkel, but we haven't.

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post Mar 7 2011, 11:06 PM
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Okay, let's say we just disagree then and let's call it a day.
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post Mar 7 2011, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 8 2011, 12:06 AM) *
Okay, let's say we just disagree then and let's call it a day.

Finally! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif)
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post Mar 8 2011, 12:05 AM
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Not before I say my word. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

In the long run, (meaning throughout the entirety of a season), I'd pick Merkel over Seedorf any day as starter. Seedorf is a finished player that can't keep up with the pace of any major European football championship anymore. However, when we're talking about games like this against Tottenham, which Italians refer to as partita secca (like finals or derbies), then Seedorf gives me much more confidence. Why? Because Seedorf, despite his precarious conditions, is able to pull out a world class performance for 90 minutes that Merkel could never dream of achieving. His experience is so immense, and his class is so undisputed, that allow him to "bypass" his age, just for one game, and make the difference! And that's why we need him tomorrow night, considering our absences. But like I said, just for one game. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 7 2011, 11:05 PM) *
Not before I say my word. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

In the long run, (meaning throughout the entirety of a season), I'd pick Merkel over Seedorf any day as starter. Seedorf is a finished player that can't keep up with the pace of any major European football championship anymore. However, when we're talking about games like this against Tottenham, which Italians refer to as partita secca (like finals or derbies), then Seedorf gives me much more confidence. Why? Because Seedorf, despite his precarious conditions, is able to pull out a world class performance for 90 minutes that Merkel could never dream of achieving. His experience is so immense, and his class is so undisputed, that allow him to "bypass" his age, just for one game, and make the difference! And that's why we need him tomorrow night, considering our absences. But like I said, just for one game. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


+1 X bro

on another note im secretly praying and hoping that PATO explodes scores one or two and runs riot
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post Mar 8 2011, 12:45 AM
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QUOTE (Suhail 3 @ Mar 8 2011, 01:13 AM) *
on another note im secretly praying and hoping that PATO explodes scores one or two and runs riot


Same. I think (and hope) that Pato will be the key to this game.
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post Mar 8 2011, 01:20 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 8 2011, 04:05 AM) *
that Merkel could never dream of achieving.

Oh, he dreams alright. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This I can assure you! Most footballers and fans dream about being a hybrid cross between Kaka, Cristiano, Messi and characters like Superman, Batman and Terminator.
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How fit is Strasser? I know he's been injured for awhile. If he's fit, he should be starting alongside Flamini and Seedorf.
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Bottom line is that neither of Merkel and Seedorf should be playing from the start.
Seedorf is done and dusted and has been for a long time... he is so slow it hurts to watch and all he relies on now when he is on ball is to look for the foul. I am thankful for what he has done for the team but it's time to retire.
Merkel is an investment for the future, he shows some good qualities that need to be developed in time and we shouldn't be looking at him as a finished product yet, nor should he be playing in big games like this.

We should start with a flamini-strasser-janku midfield and if all is going well and we need to protect a lead then Seedorf can come on for the last 20 mins and slow the game down and draw the foul and use his experience in that way... 20 minutes is his maximum these days and he showed that against Juve where he looked like the most tired of the whole team when he was only on for 20 mins.
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post Mar 8 2011, 04:07 AM
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Flamini-Strasser-Jankulovski... Lots of creativity there.
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Tottenham Are Not Among The Strongest Teams In The Champions League - Milan Coach Massimiliano Allegri (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Milan coach Massimiliano Allegri is determined to rock Tottenham's Champions League hopes, and is confident they will collapse in Wednesday's last 16, second-leg affair by claiming they are not the strongest team in Europe.

Allegri feels Tottenham, who boast a 1-0 aggregate lead heading into the game at White Hart Lane, don't have the strongest of foundations on the continent.

"We should not have made mistakes against Tottenham at San Siro, but they took advantage of a counter attack to beat us," Allegri told Radio Crc.

"However, despite playing good football, they are not among the strongest teams in Europe."

Allegri sounds confident ahead of the return leg, but the Milan coach has his own problems to deal with as he sifts through the debris of a broken midfield.

"Andrea Pirlo and Massimo Ambrosini are both injured, and thus for half of our midfield we only have a limited number of players available," he added.

"Plus, the players who arrived in January are cup-tied."


And his message of transferring their Serie A winning form to Europe couldn't be clearer.

"It's not always possible to play 95 minutes of spectacular football, but what counts is winning," he said.
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Don't look but Allegri just motivated the Spurs to prove that they are a big team. Interview comes with the standard cop outs that his fans have been giving him all year long (IMG:http://www.milanfan.com/forums/style_images/bullet/folder_post_icons/icon8.gif)
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What he said is true, but there's still no need to say it.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 8 2011, 11:07 AM) *
Flamini-Strasser-Jankulovski... Lots of creativity there.

Yeh coz seedorf provides so much creativity..... For the other team when he loses the ball everytime he gets it?

Janku can push forward and put in some decent crosses and he likes to shoot and anything can happen as long as can get them on target, just like gattuso against juve.
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QUOTE (shevchenko_007 @ Mar 8 2011, 10:17 AM) *
Yeh coz seedorf provides so much creativity..... For the other team when he loses the ball everytime he gets it?

Janku can push forward and put in some decent crosses and he likes to shoot and anything can happen as long as can get them on target, just like gattuso against juve.

Agreed. We've played with midfields that had less creativity this season, and it went well. Rather than playing Seedorf who is a specialist in ruining our attacks.

Except, I want Jankulovski as left-back... Antonini? Oh, please no..

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