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post Feb 16 2011, 03:10 PM
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I said it before, and I'll say it again, two-footed tackles like this should be red card straight. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) No matter who does them, either from front or behind. If anything, Flamini walked away cheaply, he should consider himself lucky. Ribery got it much worse for something half as bad in the CL last season.
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post Feb 16 2011, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Feb 16 2011, 03:08 PM) *
I don't think it's that often that we see such tackles not at this level and not from player in a Milan shirt. The local football level in my town? Yes, way worse stuff. The fact that he was doing that at Arsenal does not justify it in any way...

And it was not just the tackle... it was how he went for it and what he did after that, complaining about time wasting while he could have broken the man's leg!

I'm pretty sure it's not as rare as you speak of it. A 2 footed tackle imo is something common. What was terrible about Flamini's tackle was the speed at which he went into it. Don't we see at least 1 player a year getting his leg broken in the EPL over this stuff?

How they reacted after it was obviously bad, and imo that was the terrible part not the tackle in itself.
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post Feb 16 2011, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Feb 16 2011, 07:08 PM) *
that's better for us actually.

Come to think of it, yes it will. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Provided Ambro and KPB return to full fitness!
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post Feb 16 2011, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 16 2011, 02:13 PM) *
Don't we see at least 1 player a year getting his leg broken in the EPL over this stuff?

Last one I remember as bad as this was the one on Eduardo. Can't think of any other.
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post Feb 16 2011, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 16 2011, 04:13 PM) *
I'm pretty sure it's not as rare as you speak of it. A 2 footed tackle imo is something common. What was terrible about Flamini's tackle was the speed at which he went into it. Don't we see at least 1 player a year getting his leg broken in the EPL over this stuff?

That's what I meant in uncommon, a two-footed tackle with such speed, he could have f***** him up pretty badly.
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post Feb 16 2011, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 16 2011, 05:10 PM) *
I said it before, and I'll say it again, two-footed tackles like this should be red card straight. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) No matter who does them, either from front or behind. If anything, Flamini walked away cheaply, he should consider himself lucky. Ribery got it much worse for something half as bad in the CL last season.

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post Feb 16 2011, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Feb 16 2011, 12:20 PM) *
Like you said, when Maldini was on the field He never let him do more than that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) I miss you God!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


i agree (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (
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post Feb 16 2011, 08:44 PM
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QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Feb 16 2011, 02:20 PM) *
Last one I remember as bad as this was the one on Eduardo. Can't think of any other.


There was the young Arsenal player as well(can't remember his name), and IIRC it screwed his career up!

Regarding Gattuso, I have to agree with both Kurt and Han. I certainly don't condone what Gattuso did and he has done a lot of damage to our club. But Jordan should not have been allowed to stand on the touchline and shout verbal abuse at an opposing player. I would also add that Gattuso did come out and apologise straight after and accepted the blame, while Jordan has sat back and said nothing! I hope the UEFA disciplinary panel punish both Gattuso and Jordan as it takes two to argue.

Oh and Flamini's tackle was terrible but Palacios went unpunished for a thigh high foul on Gattuso(which seemed to be the catalyst for Gattuso losing his head!), so it's not all one way traffic. Bottom line is that Spurs set out to wind us up and it worked, now some might say they played to their strengths but to me it's dirty play. Ironically, had Milan played in the same way as Spurs we wouldn't have heard the last of it(dirty Italians etc! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) )
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post Feb 16 2011, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Feb 16 2011, 02:20 PM) *
Last one I remember as bad as this was the one on Eduardo. Can't think of any other.

Ben Arfa broke his leg this year. But like I said at the time, it was a fluke injury from a good challenge. Barton's tackle on Diaby the other week was exactly the same - yet nobody mentioned the tackle at all. Ben Arfa was just unlucky his stoods were caught in the ground.

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There was the young Arsenal player as well(can't remember his name), and IIRC it screwed his career up!

Regarding Gattuso, I have to agree with both Kurt and Han. I certainly don't condone what Gattuso did and he has done a lot of damage to our club. But Jordan should not have been allowed to stand on the touchline and shout verbal abuse at an opposing player. I would also add that Gattuso did come out and apologise straight after and accepted the blame, while Jordan has sat back and said nothing! I hope the UEFA disciplinary panel punish both Gattuso and Jordan as it takes two to argue.

If Rino is punished, then Jordan does too, I agree. Apparently 'dirty Italian *******' amongst other things were said to Rino which is out of order. 4th officials really need to report what things are said on the sideline, because it's hardly fair that Rino will probably get into trouble after essentially being racially abused from an opposition coach. I'd have flattened him after the game if I were Rino.

It was clearly nothing to do with being a sore loser either as he shook hands with Harry and others.
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Feb 16 2011, 08:44 PM) *
There was the young Arsenal player as well(can't remember his name), and IIRC it screwed his career up!

Regarding Gattuso, I have to agree with both Kurt and Han. I certainly don't condone what Gattuso did and he has done a lot of damage to our club. But Jordan should not have been allowed to stand on the touchline and shout verbal abuse at an opposing player. I would also add that Gattuso did come out and apologise straight after and accepted the blame, while Jordan has sat back and said nothing! I hope the UEFA disciplinary panel punish both Gattuso and Jordan as it takes two to argue.

Oh and Flamini's tackle was terrible but Palacios went unpunished for a thigh high foul on Gattuso(which seemed to be the catalyst for Gattuso losing his head!), so it's not all one way traffic. Bottom line is that Spurs set out to wind us up and it worked, now some might say they played to their strengths but to me it's dirty play. Ironically, had Milan played in the same way as Spurs we wouldn't have heard the last of it(dirty Italians etc! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) )

Couldn't have said it better myself!

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 16 2011, 08:58 PM) *
Ben Arfa broke his leg this year. But like I said at the time, it was a fluke injury from a good challenge. Barton's tackle on Diaby the other week was exactly the same - yet nobody mentioned the tackle at all. Ben Arfa was just unlucky his stoods were caught in the ground.


If Rino is punished, then Jordan does too, I agree. Apparently 'dirty Italian *******' amongst other things were said to Rino which is out of order. 4th officials really need to report what things are said on the sideline, because it's hardly fair that Rino will probably get into trouble after essentially being racially abused from an opposition coach. I'd have flattened him after the game if I were Rino.

It was clearly nothing to do with being a sore loser either as he shook hands with Harry and others.

Exactly
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Feb 16 2011, 07:44 PM) *
There was the young Arsenal player as well(can't remember his name), and IIRC it screwed his career up!

Shawcross challenge? Compared to Flamini's last night it was nothing.
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QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Feb 16 2011, 09:44 PM) *
Shawcross challenge? Compared to Flamini's last night it was nothing.


the Arsenal player broke his leg in two places! And if I remember correctly Arsene Wenger had to let him go. Flamini's was nowhere near as bad.
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Milan CEO Adriano Galliani: Don't Condemn Gennaro Gattuso

Milan chief Galliani jumps to Gattuso's defence...

Milan CEO Adriano Galliani has urged for judgement not to be rushed on Gennaro Gattuso following his headbutt on Tottenham's Joe Jordan.

Gattuso faces a ban from UEFA following his clash with coach Jordan, but Galliani, while admitting the midfielder's actions were wrong, said his near-perfect disciplinary record speaks for itself.

"What Rino did was not nice, but he was heavily provoked," Galliani told the press in Milan.

"Of course, he shouldn't have reacted as he did, but let's not condemn everything.

"Gattuso has played 104 times in Europe, and he was sent off just once in 2003 following a clash with Zlatan Ibrahimovic, who is now his team-mate.

"Milan's behaviour has always been exceptional under the Silvio Berlusconi leadership."


Galliani was asked whether Gattuso would lose his vice-captain role. Unsurprisingly his answer was no.

"Milan don't think of taking away the vice-captaincy from Gattuso, who will remain such."


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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Feb 17 2011, 02:52 PM) *
the Arsenal player broke his leg in two places! And if I remember correctly Arsene Wenger had to let him go. Flamini's was nowhere near as bad.

In terms of intention, it was no where near as bad, it was a 50-50 ball. I'm pretty sure Ramsey has just gone out on loan to a few places, though compared to the rest of Arsenal's midfield he is streets behind anyway. Of course you could judge a tackle on end injury, so that would mean when Irwin and McClair collided with Coventry City player David Busst breaking his leg to the point of near amputation (ending his career) making Schmeichel throw up on the pitch and needing counselling should be kicked out of the game? Even though there was no intention? No.

But Flamini's tackle was hideous, I'm sorry it doesn't take a nasty injury for that sort of tackle to be punished in my mind, those sorts of tackles will break legs. The only thing you hope as the receiving player of it is your legs give way, if your studs/blades plant into the ground you're done for.
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I saw the replay many times, I was certain Flamini took the ball. But considering the aftermath, I guess he must have hit Corluka as well.
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