[X-Offender]

I'm with you on Flamini, han. Not because he might do badly playing as RB, but because we need him more in midfield. But Abate and Bonera will always do a better job than Oddo. Oddo is a disgrace to our team, by far the worst player we have. He should have left this summer along with Jankulovski.

[CHU-LIP]

Is han calling Oddo reliable? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

At least with our other FBs I know that if they can't cross they're still reliable in all the other areas a FB should be good at.

I'm not going to comment on your post, because I would repeat myself (you are in repeat also). Obviously we agree to disagree...

X-Offender, I agree we need Flamini in midfield (but not always). He isn't always a starter in midfield, and in moments like that I rather see Flamini as rightback than on the bench if we don't have two proper fullbacks available. Maybe I don't even want Flamini as often as rightback as it may have looked. Just when it seems wise because of who are missing at that moment. I find it a shame when a player refuses to play a certain position.

This post has been edited by CHU-LIP: Oct 4 2010, 10:02 PM

[Fillipo Simone]

Woa, what a discussion. To be honest, I agree with many things all of you said. The truth is somewhere in the middle, at least for me.

I think Milan has a fullback issue which is permanent. Oddo, Abate, Bonera, Zambrotta or Flamini all can be used as RB's sometimes, but sometimes isn't good enough if we're ambitious. Every of those players has at least one major flaw. And the thing is, we have a even worse situation on the left side. Meaning, just simply - we got to buy new fullbacks and keep our current in the roster as well.

As for the choice, I do think Bonera can be a RB, but a very bad one. Last season and this one Bonera made big set-back and truth to be told I don't think we need him any more around. I think all of our CB's are better then him plus he's getting constantly injured. I think we should try out Sokratis as a RB, and see what comes up. If not I'd go this way: Zambrotta>Oddo>Flamini>Abate>Bonera.

You also talked about midfielders and DM's. Actually, I think for the team stability, it is good to have either Rino or Ambro as a fix starter. Firstly, Ambro had really good two seasons and Rino is playing right now excellent. He'll catch up some break now with the international fixtures and maybe keep on the good work. Maybe not? Well, why do we care? Who know how long he's gonna play so good? Why do we bother knowing? Remember Serginho, the guy is the ultimate definition of Renaissance he had not one, not two...three or more. Who are we to judge wether Rino will be good or not in 2 months? (Also, I don't think that Flamini is THAT good, so I don't consider him as a real alternative. The guy IMO just didn't click with Milan).

[Jack Sparrow]

I think the 'issue' with crossing is a lot deeper. It's in fact very basic.

We're playing a 4-3-3. With two wingforwards. The question is...who attacks the box?? Take our last match, the amount of times it was just Ibra in the box is countless. In such a situation, ANY fullback..would find it next to impossible to find one person in a box full of other players.

As long as we play with just one proper striker, I think we shall continue to have this problem. Our fullback tactics now seem to be more suited to the types who makes overlapping runs into the box. I actually think it's time to dust Janku off..if he's fit.

[han2503]

Is han calling Oddo reliable? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

I was talking about Zambro and Antonini there.

But in a really tight siutation when it came to a decision between Oddo and Flamini, would I choose the midfielder who hasn't played the position in a long time and isn't really comfortable playing in it or the RB who might be cr@p at everything else but would at least know how to play the position

[Fillipo Simone]

I think the 'issue' with crossing is a lot deeper. It's in fact very basic.

We're playing a 4-3-3. With two wingforwards. The question is...who attacks the box?? Take our last match, the amount of times it was just Ibra in the box is countless. In such a situation, ANY fullback..would find it next to impossible to find one person in a box full of other players.

I agree, but we have a fullback-crossing issue long time before even 4-3-3 was implemented...the moment we lost Serginho and Cafu and never ever cared not to replace them (which is impossible) but to bring in some similar players.

[Jack Sparrow]

Roughly coincided with the time we started playing that one-striker formation thing.

[CHU-LIP]

I was talking about Zambro and Antonini there.

But in a really tight siutation when it came to a decision between Oddo and Flamini, would I choose the midfielder who hasn't played the position in a long time and isn't really comfortable playing in it or the RB who might be cr@p at everything else but would at least know how to play the position

Oh...

Except for those two no one is better at fullback than Flamini IMO. Assuming Antonini is on LB, I prefer Zambrotta, Flamini, Abate, Bonera and Papastathopoulos all over Oddo as rightback. I don't see the problem in using Flamini as both a backup for midfield and rightback, well, except for the fact he refuses the latter.

[han2503]

Oh...

Except for those two no one is better at fullback than Flamini IMO. Assuming Antonini is on LB, I prefer Zambrotta, Flamini, Abate, Bonera and Papastathopoulos all over Oddo as rightback. I don't see the problem in using Flamini as both a backup for midfield and rightback, well, except for the fact he refuses the latter.

I don't think he'd refuse, but for example like Carlo, he wanted him at RB only and rarely ever played him in his own position. I think it emergency situations he'd be ok to play it, but he understandably wants to play in the midfield

[Fillipo Simone]

I still belive he'd be better then Abate as RB, who at this point is Milans second choice RB.

[CHU-LIP]

I still belive he'd be better then Abate as RB, who at this point is Milans second choice RB.

We agree with this. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Dracoris]

We could play Pato at right back. You know, for pace.

[CHU-LIP]

[/serious]

We could play Pato at right back. You know, for pace.

Pato is better on the left. Pato LB, Abate RB = unstoppable (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)

And Odu as 1st backup. ..or wait, Odu is quicker than Abate, isn't he?.. Odu at RB then

This post has been edited by CHU-LIP: Oct 5 2010, 08:25 PM

[Bluesummers]

[/serious]

Pato is better on the left. Pato LB, Abate RB = unstoppable (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)

And Odu as 1st backup. ..or wait, Odu is quicker than Abate, isn't he?.. Odu at RB then

fifa ftw (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

Why not. Bastos is a left wing forward in the League. He played as left back.