[RinoIlCapitano]

What I find most funny about this is that you guys have such high expectations of Allegri. He is an upcoming serie A coach. He is no way a world class coach like mourinho or ancelotti. He is going to make mistakes and it takes time to learn from them.


If we are going to jump on his back everytime these things happen, lets just sack him now and not waste his time.



It takes at least 3 months before a coach can even begin to have an effect on a team and thats an unchanged team. We just brought in a striker with a completely different play style and approach to the game as well as a new winger than the ones were used to. Its going to take time for these players to adjust and gel together.


This goes as well for players like boateng and sokratis. They are not going to walk on team and play like nesta and seedorf do. The confidence just isn't there.


These guys are still in the phase of "OMG I actually play for ACM" When they get out of that phase and learn how to effectively communicate and understand how the ACM philosphy is like, we'll start producing results.

The same goes for our coach. Being at Cagliari and then moving to Milan is a big step! He jumped teams like lazio/roma/genoa where he should have gone first and recieved more experience. Its going to take him some time to understand the ACM mentality and how/why we do things the way we do.


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We can debate tactics all we like but i'm going to say it isn't a tactical debate at all. What allegri had going on was excellent. Maybe gattuso was a questionable pick but i'd say everywhere else he was spot on. This result was produced due to reffing decisions and very fluky goals from cesena.

This about the team effectively understanding how the coach works and the coach understanding how the team works. Its going to take some time.


If we can give ancelotti 8 years, we can give allegri 1 at least.

Totally agree, great post!

[agenth]

We can't afford to lose all the games for 3 months, lol.

Everybody makes mistakes, and Allegri is not an exception.
But we should all hope that he can learn from his mistakes, and that he can analyze our problems rightly, and that he can implement the right solutions into our team.

http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/09/12/ces...-milan-tactics/
here is a good read

[X-Offender]

We missed Seedorf like hell. Gang up and playa-hate as much as you like. That man is a footballing genius. He is the brains behind the marshalling of our mid-field and can read the blueprint of the game like few others. Even Pirlo has a smaller vision of the game than Seedorf. And you can see how much Pirlo misses not having Zee around. He has nobody with the same spectrum of thought as him.

As much as I can't stand his sluggish displays nowadays, you are absolutely right about that. How I wish he was 10 years younger. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

[elcordobez]

I still can't see how we can win a trophy in this formation with our current crop of players.

[X-Offender]

I still can't see how we can win a trophy in this formation with our current crop of players.

Err, we have really good players this season. Why do you say that?

[CHU-LIP]

After two games, we are 1 point behind Inter, and I believe Milan has both the better team and also showed more in the two games than Inter did. So, I'm still confident we are favourites to win the Scudetto. However, it also shows it won't be easy and we need to learn from our mistakes.

[Linkman]

As much as I can't stand his sluggish displays nowadays, you are absolutely right about that. How I wish he was 10 years younger. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Even at his age, he is absolutely necessary for both Pirlo and Dinho to play... I reckon we should save him for the really big matches.

[elcordobez]

Err, we have really good players this season. Why do you say that?

Well my hope is that our attack will gel so incredibly well that it wouldn't matter that our midfield is flimsy.

But i'm trying to pick out a team who've won the domestic or European title who've had a weak midfield can't think of any really.

So...Do we have the players to deliver the odd flogging to any opponent who opens up regardless of what formation we play?absolutely
Is that system solid enough in midfield and defense to win trophies?a very long shot...

Don't have the midfield nor fullbacks for a effective 433 simple as that,well not effective enough to win trophies.

Was a sad day when Leo decided to take apart our midfield.

This post has been edited by elcordobez: Sep 14 2010, 01:54 AM

[Dracoris]

Well my hope is that our attack will gel so incredibly well that it wouldn't matter that our midfield is flimsy.

But i'm trying to pick out a team who've won the domestic or European title who've had a weak midfield can't think of any really.

So...Do we have the players to deliver the odd flogging to any opponent to opens up regardless of what formation we play?absolutely
Is that system solid enough in midfield and defense to win trophies?a very long shot...

Don't have the midfield nor fullbacks for a effective 433 simple as that,well not effective enough to win trophies.

Was a sad day when Leo decided to take apart our midfield.

We have the midfield, we just played Ambro and Gattuso together, that was the issue there. Its a mistake that won't be made again unless Allegri is completely inept or has absolutely no other choice. We need a RB like crazy, a healthy Zambro could fix the leak, but probably won't fully repair the situation.

Boateng or Seedorf must start.

[Fillipo Simone]

After two games, we are 1 point behind Inter, and I believe Milan has both the better team and also showed more in the two games than Inter did. So, I'm still confident we are favourites to win the Scudetto. However, it also shows it won't be easy and we need to learn from our mistakes.

Really? Let's see: Inter played Bologna and Udinese, we played Lecce and Cesena. Inter has 4 points, Milan 3. IMO that's not a good indicator.

[William405]

How about trying Flamini at Rb,last time I remember,he was quite decent at that position,could be better then zambro.

[CHU-LIP]

Really? Let's see: Inter played Bologna and Udinese, we played Lecce and Cesena. Inter has 4 points, Milan 3. IMO that's not a good indicator.

Now you are only looking at the points and opponents. IMO, there is no way Inter has impressed more than Milan. IMO, there is no way that based on what happened these weeks Inter are favourites over Milan.

Well, except if you only look at what happened on paper. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by CHU-LIP: Sep 13 2010, 07:17 PM

[alskor]

How about trying Flamini at Rb,last time I remember,he was quite decent at that position,could be better then zambro.

You know... I don't hate the idea.

Play him there and have him making runs a lot. Play an unbalanced back line where the LB (Antonini) stays at home more... kind of like what Fiorentina does with Vargas at LB.

Pato is much better at hassling opposition wide left players than Ronaldinho is on the other side (not that he's good at it) ... so you cover Flamini's runs better. It allows our defensive structure to sag to accommodate for Ronnie some. Play Ambro (and Boateng) as left center mid, have him mark the wingers on that side and fall back to help the defense.

We'd be vulnerable some on the right side against teams with great attacks... especially if Papa. is in at RCB, but hey, at least we wouldn't get carved up by minnows like Cesena as badly.

[kurtsimonw]

Flamini didn't want to play RB at Arsenal, it was a reason he left. If we start doing the same here, he'll want out again.

[Linkman]

Alskor, have you ever watched Ronaldinho play?