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post Aug 26 2010, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Aug 26 2010, 09:20 PM) *
Flamini might be better than both, but Boateng is the better box-to-box midfielder of the three, and Ambrosini the better DM of the three.

If only we took Aquilani on loan... Aquilani and Zlatan in, Huntelaar and Flamini out... now, THAT would have been nice.


We have Pirlo and Seedorf. Why would you sign Aquilani. At least not loaning. I'd buy him in full ownership and make him Pirlo's backup.
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 26 2010, 09:16 PM) *
comon now. Ibra has always been our number 1 target from the start.

As soon as Wolfsburg pulled that BS price tag in early July for Dzeko, we dropped our interest. Even then guys like Moggi came out and said that were interested in Ibra.

I even remember around early/Mid July someone came out in the press and said we will sign Ibra around the time of the gamper trophy. That will be our summer signing. We all wanted Dzeko at that time but things have changed since then.

Flamini won't leave. It could have happened if there was say 2 weeks before the window closes, but 5 days before? No way.

The only thing I see happening is the release/sale of kaladze and Janku from the squad to fund this and the probability of that I would say is 10%

Unless you were a fly on the wall at Via Turati you have no way on knowing that...

We've been linked to every striker under the sun this summer Ibra has been one of them but it has not been going on all summer. Moggi talks cr@p like he still runs the show in Italian football. He's a delusional, senile man grasping at straws. And I'd really like to see that article where it said we were going to sign Ibra in early July, I don't remember ever reading that.

We've got Boateng, that's his replacement right there in the management's eyes.

Releasing Kala and Janku from their contracts would cost us more, as we'd have to pay them their salaries in full as compensation, so at the end of the day we'd still be wading in the same pit of cr@p as we were before
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post Aug 26 2010, 09:26 PM
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I'd rather spend the money on a decent right back.
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post Aug 26 2010, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE (servbot @ Aug 26 2010, 09:25 PM) *
That would be too bad. I'm not really interested in Robinho at all. I'd rather save the money for a future transfer window if it comes to that.


We are only loaning Robinho.
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post Aug 26 2010, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 26 2010, 02:25 PM) *
Unless ou were a fly on the wall at Vie Turati you have no way on knowing that...

We've been linked to every striker under the sun this summer Ibra has been one of them but it has not been going on all summer. Moggi talks cr@p like he still runs the show in Italian football. He's a delusional, senile man grasping at straws. And I'd really like to see that article where it said we were going to sign Ibra in early July, I don't remember ever reading that.

We've got Boateng, that's his replacement right there in the management's eys.

Releasing Kala and Janku from their contracts would cost us more, as we'd have to pay them their salaries in full as compensation, so at the end of the day we'd still be wading in the same pit of cr@p as we were before


I'll try and find it.


Boateng is not a replacement for anyone. Allegri asked for 6 midfielders, boateng is the 6th.


releasing janku and kala would just put us in debt at the end of the day or berlu might just pay it off. It'd be around 7m; but at least we can get open up room in our wage budget.

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post Aug 26 2010, 09:29 PM
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Better then borriello but not better then Robinho and ot like ibra and his agent
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post Aug 26 2010, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Aug 26 2010, 08:25 PM) *
We have Pirlo and Seedorf. Why would you sign Aquilani. At least not loaning. I'd buy him in full ownership and make him Pirlo's backup.

Aquilani and Pirlo can play in the same midfield, no problemo. A fit (kinda rarely) Aquilani is better than whatever Flamini does.
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Aug 26 2010, 09:20 PM) *
Flamini might be better than both, but Boateng is the better box-to-box midfielder of the three, and Ambrosini the better DM of the three.

If only we took Aquilani on loan... Aquilani and Zlatan in, Huntelaar and Flamini out... now, THAT would have been nice.

You're still not adressing the rotation problem at DM though, past Ambro, Boateng and Pirlo our midfield is useless without Flamini. Ambro gets injured and then what do we do?

Like I said, Rino is just not an option anymore. He's lost all the traits that made him one of the best in the world, or now to even be a decent DM. Flamini is someone we cannot afford to lose.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 26 2010, 02:32 PM) *
You're still not adressing the rotation problem at DM though, past Ambro, Boateng and Pirlo our midfield is useless without Flamini. Ambro gets injured and then what do we do?

Like I said, Rino is just not an option anymore. He's lost all the traits that made him one of the best in the world, or now to even be a decent DM. Flamini is someone we cannot afford to lose.


+1 we can't afford to lose flamini. Not at 26 years old. No way!

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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Aug 26 2010, 09:29 PM) *
Aquilani and Pirlo can play in the same midfield, no problemo. A fit (kinda rarely) Aquilani is better than whatever Flamini does.


Lol , are you really meaning that ?
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Well, Aquilani's wearing prison stripes next year so it's an academic question.

But when he's fit? Yes, I at least think he's better than FLamini -- but remember I dont' particularly rate Flamini in the first place.
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post Aug 26 2010, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 26 2010, 02:26 PM) *
I'd rather spend the money on a decent right back.


we already bought one.



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QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 26 2010, 09:34 PM) *
Well, Aquilani's wearing prison stripes next year so it's an academic question.

But when he's fit? Yes, I at least think he's better than FLamini -- but remember I dont' particularly rate Flamini in the first place.


Aquilani it's kind of Pirlo's player. Even when he's fit, Flamini runs 5 time's more and that's crucial for our midfield.
I agree Aquilani is good but you can't use him together with Pirlo.
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Aug 26 2010, 09:26 PM) *
We are only loaning Robinho.

Robinho would be a massive mistake. Rotten attitude aside, ar we going to play with 2 players on the left? Both Dinho and him ocuppy the left hand side of attack, that's where they play their best football. We need a pure striker. Which is why Ibra is a good decision (football wise, attitude wise he could cause problems), Robinho is a player we don't need at all

QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 26 2010, 09:27 PM) *
I'll try and find it.

Boateng is not a replacement for anyone. Allegri asked for 6 midfielders, boateng is the 6th.

releasing janku and kala would just put us in debt at the end of the day or berlu might just pay it off. It'd be around 7m; but at least we can get open up room in our wage budget.

But if they do sell Flamini that is their excuse, they'll promote Strasser and call it a day. If Silvio wants this he'll make it happen, now whether that will involve doing what's best for the team is irrelevant to him, he only cares about having his show pony to come watch on Derby days and big CL ties

We're still going to end up paying that money, so what's the point?

QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Aug 26 2010, 09:29 PM) *
Aquilani and Pirlo can play in the same midfield, no problemo. A fit (kinda rarely) Aquilani is better than whatever Flamini does.

No one is denying that Aquilani is a great player, I am a big fan in fact. But he's very injury prone, that makes him unreliable.
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I understand the concern for the dressing room in regards to Ibra's transfer, but come on guys. How many times last year did we see Borri, Huntelaar, and Inzaghi just whiff and it cost us the game? Due to their need for 10 chances to get a goal we probably lost about 5-10 points in the Serie A.

I'd like a legit RB too, but Sokratis and Zambro are not THAT bad. We could easily do better, but we can survive with them. Especially after seeing our CL group today, I'm not sure we can survive with Borri/Hunt/Pippo. Borri will make a great backup as I have said, and Pippo will allow for late game tactical changes when things are not working.

Plus, my Fifa 11 team is going to be super legit with Ronnie-Ibra-Pato. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Still though, this deal could fall through in a heartbeat.
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