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post Aug 1 2010, 12:34 AM
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i think its unfair to kick out seedorf since he's been playing well lately
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post Aug 1 2010, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE (nuh @ Jul 31 2010, 11:34 PM) *
i think its unfair to kick out seedorf since he's been playing well lately

Then bench Pirlo. Playing both won't work, I think.
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post Aug 1 2010, 12:39 AM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jul 31 2010, 11:36 PM) *
Then bench Pirlo. Playing both won't work, I think.


Not in that formation.

But playing Pirlo and Seedorf in 4-5-1 and Leo's 4-3-3 worked good.
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post Aug 1 2010, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE (nuh @ Aug 1 2010, 12:34 AM) *
i think its unfair to kick out seedorf since he's been playing well lately

Hmm we played two friendlies and in both he looked tired and could barely keep up.

Seedorf imo should only be played in the big games, playing him week in week out in the Serie A against the small teams will only do more harm then good
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post Aug 1 2010, 12:50 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 1 2010, 12:40 AM) *
Hmm we played to friendlies and in both he looked tired and could barely keep up.

Seedorf imo should only be played in the big games, playing him week in week out in the Serie A against the small teams will only do more harm then good

I'm not only talking about these friendlies but in the past few seasons apart from last year due to injuries and stuff he was one of our better players.
And besides the whole team looks tired and can barley keep up we've only been training for 10 days. And both games he was our best player
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post Aug 1 2010, 01:01 AM
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QUOTE (nuh @ Jul 31 2010, 07:50 PM) *
I'm not only talking about these friendlies but in the past few seasons apart from last year due to injuries and stuff he was one of our better players.
And besides the whole team looks tired and can barley keep up we've only been training for 10 days. And both games he was our best player


I will have to respectfully disagree with you. At Seedorf's age and stamina level he can contribute a lot more if he were to be subbed in. Ex: Chievo last year.

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post Aug 1 2010, 01:05 AM
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QUOTE (nuh @ Aug 1 2010, 12:50 AM) *
I'm not only talking about these friendlies but in the past few seasons apart from last year due to injuries and stuff he was one of our better players.
And besides the whole team looks tired and can barley keep up we've only been training for 10 days. And both games he was our best player

The kids were even better then him in the friendlies...

And maybe Seedorf does come off as having 'great' seasons because he delivers in the big matches, but in the matches against small opposition he appears to barely give a sh!t most of the time. That's Seedorf's biggest problem. Also the guy's 34, you really think he can be a regular starter for an entire season?

Look at the older guys last season who were burnt out because they had to play in practically every game:

Seedorf: Got injured a lot when he usually stays injury free throughout a season
Ambro: His form dipped rapidly in the last few months because he was overused so much, this while having a perfectly good alternative on the bench in Flamini
Dinho: Another player who played in practically every game and his form suffered in the last few months due to exostion
Pirlo: Same thing as Dinho and Ambro

This is why we need to have good rotation players for the position the players I mentioned above occupy. We can't rely on them constantly, they're not 20 anymore. Playing Seedorf twice a wekk to me is not a smart thing. And I think it's time for Seedorf to slip into a more backup position instead of starter , Flamini and Ambro need to be rotated on a regular basis if they're not going to be played in thes ame formation. We can't do what we did last season, which resulted in the massive injury list we aquired by the month of January
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post Aug 1 2010, 01:33 AM
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I never said that the squad shouldn't be rotated. But there are lots of talks of this player coming and this player starting ahead of seedorf, which I personally find wrong. I think we need to sign 2 young midfielders who could replace and be rotated for both pirlo and seedorf. And thats it, I think we've got a good first team if only we just sign a striker instead if that awful Borriello, I just think that our main problem is our bench which is just poor. Like last year if someone gets injured we are simply done for.
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post Aug 1 2010, 02:59 AM
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Seedorf should have been used as a sub long, long ago. For the past 2-3 seasons he's been a walking zombie. No wonder he's always booed by San Siro.
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post Aug 1 2010, 05:50 AM
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Bah....booing means nothing. I've heard people abusing Pippo Inzaghi from the stands and in 10 minutes they're screaming with joy as he does those wild celebrations. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Heck even I abuse Pirlo when I'm watching the match. Yet I'd kill a kitten if you said anything over-bad about him.

But I know exactly what you mean. Zee is like Van Gogh. Pure genius but T&C apply. I still love him though. He's the most unpredictable player in our offensive line...bar whoever our star CAM is. On song, the man is tactically impossible to stop.

You use strength, he'll counter with strength. You give him space, he'll kill you with his passing and shooting. He can hold up the ball...or even make runs into the box.

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Genius!! But yes, he should have been promoted to elderly statesman by now.
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post Aug 1 2010, 10:30 AM
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Well Seedorf is a Genius, but like you said, T&C apply as to when he chooses to use that genius. Unless it's a game that peaks his interest he's a no show. He's been there, done that 10 times over. That's why we need some younger players coming through who would play their heart out no matter who we're playing against
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post Aug 1 2010, 11:21 AM
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Galliani repeated yesterday that we can't sign Honda cos' he is non-EU. Does this guy knows that we can still sign one non-EU ? I've really started to think that either he is stupid or that place is already "reserved" for a player we might sign in the future.

Can anyone explain this to me, I'm getting confused ?
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post Aug 1 2010, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Aug 1 2010, 11:21 AM) *
Galliani repeated yesterday that we can't sign Honda cos' he is non-EU. Does this guy knows that we can still sign one non-EU ? I've really started to think that either he is stupid or that place is already "reserved" for a player we might sign in the future.

Can anyone explain this to me, I'm getting confused ?

He's either trying to fool people by blaming the Lega for new regulations instead of admitting straight out that he can't buy anyone.

Or there's a non EU mid coming in that we don't know about... Who knows, at this point who cares. I personally can't see us buying anyone decent and good enough to be a first team player
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post Aug 1 2010, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 1 2010, 10:30 AM) *
Well Seedorf is a Genius, but like you said, T&C apply as to when he chooses to use that genius. Unless it's a game that peaks his interest he's a no show. He's been there, done that 10 times over. That's why we need some younger players coming through who would play their heart out no matter who we're playing against

You are right. We need Keisuke Honda! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)
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post Aug 1 2010, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Aug 1 2010, 10:40 AM) *
You are right. We need Keisuke Honda! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)

Well VdV would be my first option but at this point I'll take whatever we can get as long as we have some more players for our very bare to the bones midfield
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