[Zed.D]

Oh please, not this Dinho debate again...

This post has been edited by Zed.D: Jun 29 2010, 10:08 PM

[han2503]

This fish thinks that XOff has a point -- last year the team really did rely much more on Ronaldinho doing something than Pirlo. And I agree that it's a somewhat dangerous thing to bank on.

Do I think Ronaldinho is crap? No, not really. I think he's a fine player (though nowhere near his Barca level).

I'd LOVE for Milan to bring in a top level trequartista.

We relied on Dinho yes, I'm not saying we didn't and maybe our reliance on Dinho is more obvious, but I still think we rely on Pirlo a hell of a lot more, without Pirlo the midfield is basically clueless. We played a couple of games without both because of suspensions and we suffered a lot more when Pirlo was out then we did when Dinho was out. The heavy reliance on Dinho only started when we lost Pato since he was our only outlet it attack that could do something with the ball.

Obviously he isn't, no one is saying he is. Would I still want him should we sign say... Ozil/Pastore/etc? Obviously I'd want the one of the other two if it was an either or situation, but we don't have that luxery, the management is not going to spend ridiculous ammounts of money on any player, let alone an AM, so I'm more then happy with Dinho if he performs like he did last season. This is the realistic me, I've long ago forgotten about being arrogant when it comes to players, these are not the days when we can leave top class players on the bench and we don't think twice about it because it's the usual for us. These days we're lucky to have 5 top class players on the starting 11 let alone on the bench

[X-Offender]

Even though you like to think that Ronnie's only abalities are vision and passing, he does more then that and he's shown us this season more then once, aside from Pato he's our only other good dribbler, can shoot from long range and can literally create something out of nothing when the entire team is slagging off.

Long range shot? Aside from his goal against Siena, I can't remember a single goal from outside of the box from him. Good dribbler? Only when he's in top form, which happens very rarely. Most of the time he just looks goofy whilst desperately trying to dribble. Create something out of nowhere enters in his vision and passing skills which I already mentioned. His only goal on free kick with us was against Torino last season, I think. I mean, you could say he's useful with his assists and that I won't deny, but the guy has an evident limit in everything else!

[han2503]

Long range shot? Aside from his goal against Siena, I can't remember a single goal from outside of the box from him. Good dribbler? Only when he's in top form, which happens very rarely. Most of the time he just looks goofy whilst desperately trying to dribble. Create something out of nowhere enters in his vision and passing skills which I already mentioned. His only goal on free kick with us was against Torino last season, I think. I mean, you could say he's useful with his assists and that I won't deny, but the guy has an evident limit in everything else!

He scored against Juve and Napoli from free-kicks as well last season, and this season he has hit the post multiple times from free-kicks and long range shots, I don't see how that ability is limited. And Dinho is not a selfish player so often we've seen him with an opportunity to shoot and instead he tries to put a team mate through. The only times he tries to shoot a lot is either when the result is secure or we're desperate for the goal.

Pirlo has vision and passing just as much if not more then Dinho but you rarely see him create something out of nothing, atleast not with the frequency Dinho does, it's still a valid attribute imo. He's a good dribbler, he only looks "goofy" as you put it when he tries to overdo it with the tricks and instead loses the ball, when he goes for the simple dribbles he usually beats his marker easily. But then again this is something we see a lot with dribblers like Dinho or for example C. Ron who I've seen falling on his @ss countless times trying a million step overs and tripping over his own feet.

Imo, Dinho's biggest problem is his pace. He's fast but his accelaration is terrible so he needs a lot of space to really brake away.

I don't really get why we're arguing over this. For the money the management would be willing to spend Dinho is our best option. We're not getting Pastore, or anyone of similar calibre and price tag. So wanting Dinho to leave imo is ridiculuos as we'll only do worse not better. No one will be willing to pay more then 15m for him at his age and that wouldn't be enough to get a better replacement for him

[X-Offender]

He scored against Juve and Napoli from free-kicks as well last season [...]

1. Last season han, that's 2 years ago.
2. His goal against Napoli was a clear own goal of Dennis.
3. He didn't score on free kick against Juve, you made that up.

About the rest I don't wanna argue about. We've been over this a zillion times and we never seem to agree on anything, so whatever...

[han2503]

1. Last season han, that's 2 years ago.
2. His goal against Napoli was a clear own goal of Dennis.
3. He didn't score on free kick against Juve, you made that up.

About the rest I don't wanna argue about. We've been over this a zillion times and we never seem to agree on anything, so whatever...

Typo, not last season but the one before that
Sorry, you're right the freekick was not against Juve it was against Portsmouth (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)
His goal against Napoli was attributed to him so...

You don't want to argue about it yet you bash Dinho at every opportunity you get calling him cr@p and any other colourful description you think up on that day, obviously you're going to get a reaction.

[Fishdoll]

So, can we all think of something we can agree on?

How about....it's okay to mock the French? Everyone on board with that?

[han2503]

So, can we all think of something we can agree on?

How about....it's okay to mock the French? Everyone on board with that?

Yep (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

Oh for goodness sake, the Ronaldinho thread is still open. We should really concentrate on transfer possibilities now.

[X-Offender]

You don't want to argue about it yet you bash Dinho at every opportunity you get calling him cr@p and any other colourful description you think up on that day, obviously you're going to get a reaction.

Oh, but I like bashing him. It's like my hobby around here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Dracoris]

Selling Huntelaar for 23m I think is something most of us can agree on

[X-Offender]

Selling Huntelaar for 23m I think is something most of us can agree on

Assuming we'll be signing a better striker.

[il_diavolo_mtl]

am i the only one who thinks Di gennaro is going to be an important sub this year, he was pretty dangerous for reggina 2 seasons ago and he was beast on the primavera, i wouldn't be surprised if he puts in some good performances (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[CHU-LIP]

am i the only one who thinks Di gennaro is going to be an important sub this year, he was pretty dangerous for reggina 2 seasons ago and he was beast on the primavera, i wouldn't be surprised if he puts in some good performances (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I would be very very very very surprised.

[X-Offender]

I would be very very very very surprised.

Add another "very" from me, as well.