[Tennie]

I had to do something, han! Fishdoll was out of popcorn and had to nip into the kitchen to make more! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[han2503]

I had to do something, han! Fishdoll was out of popcorn and had to nip into the kitchen to make more! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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[kurtsimonw]

The dive is relevant as the penalty shouldn't have been given in the first place and Gattuso wasn't the one that was marking him IIRC, still that header went in because of Dida's howler, same goes for Smicer's goal.

You can look back over it as many times as you want, Gattuso was marking Gerrard. For the penalty he let Gerrard beat him, get into the box and then he went down. For the header, he just drifted away from him and Rino never followed.

Oh please what self respecting club would actually hire you as coach?? Maybe the coaching spot will open next season at Inter after Mourinho departs...

I'm not saying people would hire me. However, If I had been a good player, then maybe they would. Carlo was bascially gifted ajob due to his playing career. If he was a naff player, there is no way he would ever have got any of the jobs he has.

I agree that the 03 CL was more Kaka dragging the team on but its still there.

And its funny that you credit the 03 CL but not the 07 one, seeing as Ambro was a regular in the 07 win but barely got a look in in the 03 win (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Ambro played 13 times in the 2003 CL campaign. I wouldn't say he 'hardly got a look in'.

[han2503]

You can look back over it as many times as you want, Gattuso was marking Gerrard. For the penalty he let Gerrard beat him, get into the box and then he went down. For the header, he just drifted away from him and Rino never followed.


I'm not saying people would hire me. However, If I had been a good player, then maybe they would. Carlo was bascially gifted ajob due to his playing career. If he was a naff player, there is no way he would ever have got any of the jobs he has.



Ambro played 13 times in the 2003 CL campaign. I wouldn't say he 'hardly got a look in'.

As a sub or starter?

[kurtsimonw]

As a sub or starter?

I have no idea, I aint a stst book, I just have a book that says he made 13 appearances. Dunno whether it was sub/start, doesn't say.

[han2503]

I'm checking through the 2003 CL run and during the first group stage Ambro made 2 starts, one being against Bayern and the other against Lens which we lost because we were playing the second string, ie. Ambro starting (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Against Bayern Ambro started because Carlo went his usual cowardly defensive route and started with both Ambro and Rino in midfield, instad of the usual Seedorf, Pirlo, Rino starting midfield.

He made another 2 starts in the second group stage

Another 1 in the quarters against Ajax

He didn't start in either the final or the 2 semi legs against Inter

So if you count that's 5

[kurtsimonw]

Not as many as I'd have thought. But even still, it doesn't mean Rino is a better player. Like I said before, unless the coach that picking the team is 100% perfect, then you can't really say he's better just because he plays more.

[han2503]

Not as many as I'd have thought. But even still, it doesn't mean Rino is a better player. Like I said before, unless the coach that picking the team is 100% perfect, then you can't really say he's better just because he plays more.

I think the fact that we played great football and won it that year proves that Carlo was right in his choices.

He used Ambro mostly in the away ties where he would be more precautious and it worked back then.

[kurtsimonw]

He used Ambro mostly in the away ties where he would be more precautious and it worked back then.

So when he wanted to be more defensive, and solid, he used Ambro. That's hardly an insult to his defensive abilities then. We all know he's better going forward than Rino anyway.

[nuh]

I'd like to see some stats on this, he isn't even on the bench that often.

Something else, just for thought, what does being on the bench prove anyway? If I became manager of Milan and started Borriello every week, but left Pato on the bench, does this mean Borriello is better than Pato?

he even said that he was considering leaving milan cuz of sitting on the bench too much under carlo the interview is posted on the ambrosini thread

not only is/was he a bench boy for milan he hardly gets called up for italy too surely you can't say that every italy manager got that wrong too

[kurtsimonw]

not only is/was he a bench boy for milan he hardly gets called up for italy too surely you can't say that every italy manager got that wrong too

I'll just answer this by repeating what I said in a previous thread. Pato wasn't called up for the squad against Brazil, Fabiano was. Why didn't we sell Pato and sign Fabiano, surely he's a better player, since he's been called up and Pato hasn't.

[han2503]

I'll just answer this by repeating what I said in a previous thread. Pato wasn't called up for the squad against Brazil, Fabiano was. Why didn't we sell Pato and sign Fabiano, surely he's a better player, since he's been called up and Pato hasn't.

Pato only wasn't called up for the next set of internationals, he was with Brazial for the Confederations Cup and the previous international matches.

And Brazil really don't count as they need a box player in attack not another free roaming supporting striker, so Fabiano is the better decision for the attack.

[MizNelson]

I agree that the 03 CL was more Kaka dragging the team on but its still there.

Kaka wasn't even with us in our '03 win. I'm assuming you meant '07.

[han2503]

Kaka wasn't even with us in our '03 win. I'm assuming you meant '07.

I meant 07 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[Habitant]

Oh he wasn't? Then who was that big blonde Italian bloke who scored a header against PSV then?

oh sorry all of 20 minutes he played in that campaign.

i love how all you can dig out is that ambro scores more than gattuso, good for him 4-5 goals more a season obviously that makes him a far more effective because thats how we judge players.