[han2503]

What you dont see are a few points han:

1) Sheva is a chelsea player and in order for us to keep him next season guess who has to pay 150k? We can't realistically afford that for long for someone who doesn't do sh!t.

2) If Sheva ever preforms amazing the next season expect chelsea to recall him.

3) sheva is 32 and his contract does not belong to us. He's slow, poor dribbler and wastes too many oppurtunities. I dont agree with why carlo does the things he does but i would prefer inzaghi over shevchenko any day and i agree with him on his decisions regarding sheva.

Paloschi, even had he not scored that goal proved to be a great player with his positioning and desire to work hard. He defended, attacked and gave his all even with the few minutes he got. Shevchenko hasn't done sh!t, on top of that with the chances he has had, hes missed them or ruined them in some way. That is why he doesn't play.

Besides dont be so naive to think that If sheva ever did start bagging in 20 goals that he would be allowed to stay with us. We would have to pay quite bit of money for him and there is also the factor of his wages. I would rather give young players time and have them develop and continue to become greater than some washed up 32 year old with maximum 2-3 seasons left at giving half @ss performances.


Instead of sheva we should have kept paloschi and maybe he would have developed along similar lines as pato.

1) Sheva might still be a Chelsea player but the only reason for that is because Milan did not want to pay money for him. Milan always wanted the loan deal, simmply because they will get him back for free while Chelsea still pay parts of his wages. 150k? We did not pay a cent for Sheva, and we don't pay all of his wages either. Some might not agree with the fact that Sheva is back with us, but in terms of looking at the situation from the business aspect of it, its a pretty genius one if you ask me.

2) If Sheva performs well next season the only club that benefites from it is Milan, no one else, Chelsea cannot recall him after next season since by that time his contract with them would expire, having said that, even if he was still under contract with them after he performs well he still wouldn't be called back, just like Crespo wasn't called back from Inter after having a great 06/07 season.

3) Those attributes can be as much applied to Pippo, at least Sheva can make assists, he can cross, pass, keep the ball far better then Pippo. And speaking of Pippo and Sheva, had we not had them we would be in deep sh!t since the young striker on the team has been MIA since the very beginning with constantly being injured. If it weren't for them being there as back ups for Pato, we would have run the kid into the ground. As for his decisions regarding Sheva, imo they are all decisions that were made with personal issues being brought into the equation. Had sheva been given some more time we would probably be speaking different towards him. You say he can't run, dribble and wastes too many opporunities and I will answer you the same way I did in the other post. What do you expect from a player when he only plays once every 2 months in friendlies? Would you really expect him to give amazing performances while not being match fit? Highly unreasonable

Oh please, you really believe Paloschi would have gotten another look in had he not scored that goal?? Fact is he wouldn't have even been called up for another game, he was just the usual Primavera kid Carlo likes to sometimes call up for games, we see him do it countless times, and we usually never see those kids again. The only reason we managed to see what a hard working talented player Palo is is because of that goal against Parma, because from there Carlo gave him the odd Coppa game here and there and we managed to see him in action. But again, this all goes back to the goal against Parma, and the fact that had he not scored it, by now everyone would have forgetten that kid who managed to get 30 minutes against Parma.

And Sheva hasn't done sh!t? I agree with that since you can't expect a player to do a lot while sitting on the bench (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) And I'm thinking that we're probably going to see the same thing happen to Dinho as time wears on. I personally don't believe he's injured, I think this is another Carlo issue, and he's putting himself over the success of the team.

I think it's pretty clear that Sheva himself does not want to go back to London and neither do Chelsea want to being him back. Even if he scored a 100+ goals while at Milan I still think he wouldn't have gone back, simply because that entire thing with Chelsea was a big mistake and both parties have acknowledged this. It was the Gazatta Dello Sport editor that was on Chelsea TV who said it best regarding that whole Sheva -> Chelsea saga, "Chelsea bought a Ferrari without having a garage to keep it in".

I'm personally trying to tell you that the Sheva and Inzaghi's are not the one who are holding youngsters like Paloscho and Viudez back because we have them on the team, but it all falls on Carlo and his stubborness when it comes to playing youngters. And I've given you a very good example of when Carlo had the opportunity to field a player like Viudez yet still chose to play a defender in midfield and Seedorf as a supporting striker, this just shows you the lengths Carlo goes to in order to avoid having these kids play in competitive games, he just does not trust them, simple as that.

Paloschi is developing rather well at Parma, by the way. He's not hitting 20 goals a year but that club had a change in management and for a time the new coach didn't favor Young Alberto. That has changed and the kid has been doing very well recently (since Christmas at least), almost always starting and creating chances even if not always scoring goals.

His goals tend to be of a Pippo-the-goal-poacher variety - the kid's got a good instinct. But he WORKS on the pitch, trackign back, challenging the other team for possession, working on defense, creating space for the other striker (Parma usually plays with 2), etc. And the Parma fans love him. Thing is, he's playing on a very regular basis in a league that's got some pretty rough defenders and he's holding his own - he's learning. It's not an entire negative from either his or Milan's point of view that he's spent the year on loan.

EDIT: And Fishdoll offers Duff a Squeaky Toy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)

Exactly, he would have never had this opportunit at Milan, even if our only striker for the season was a crocked Boriello. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Yes but we should have him playing for us. I mean while he did get his opportunities he performed. We all knew he was an exceptional talent by the way he maneuvered around the field. But as long carlo is here I guess there is no point to having any youth players here.

You've just confirmed here what I've been arguing with you about in this last few posts. It does not matter if we have a million strikers or just one, the young players still won't get the chance no matter what the situation is. It's something that we just have to accept while Carlo is still the coach at Milan, something that is getting very hard to stand every day

Of course he should have gone. I'm 150% sure we'd be talking about how he's not playing and how we've ruined his career had he stayed!

Exactly

[CrazyMilanFan]

Milan (4-3-1-2): Abbiati; Zambrotta, Senderos, Maldini, Antonini; Beckham, Pirlo, Flamini; Seedorf; Inzaghi, Pato. A disposizione: Dida, Bonera, Darmian, Cardacio, Emerson, Shevchenko, Jankulosvki. All: Ancelotti
Indisponibili: Nesta, Gattuso, Borriello, Kakà, Kalac, Kaladze, Ambrosini, Ronaldinho, Favalli (squalificato, 1)


Mediaset projected linup

[Ry4n]

Galliani proud of friendly win Thursday 5 March, 2009

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Milan Vice-President Adriano Galliani was delighted with the Rossoneri's performance against Al Sadd last night.

The struggling Diavolo ran out 2-1 winners thanks to goals from Alexandre Pato and Luca Antonini.

It will take a lot more to ease the pressure after a UEFA Cup exit and a defeat against Sampdoria, but Galliani saw positive signals in Qatar.

“We had the chance to play in a beautiful stadium in front of a warm crowd,” he told Datasport.

“We were proud to have this opportunity to play the game and it's only right that a team like Milan are able to be watched by people away from Italy.

“I saw some positive indications on the pitch. Now we must return to playing well in the League and trying to get our injured players back as quickly as possible.”

Milan take on Atalanta in Bergamo on Sunday looking to prevent Inter extending their 12-point lead at the top of the table.

Channel 4 news

[Ry4n]

Just noticed this on the last line of the Channel 4 news report

Milan take on Atalanta in Bergamo on Sunday looking to prevent Inter extending their 12-point lead at the top of the table.

Correction MILAN !!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by Ry4n: Mar 5 2009, 07:09 PM

[amancik]

Win or sack Carlo immediately. Pato and Inzaghi on the scoresheet for me.

[Zed.D]

Win or sack Carlo immediately. Pato and Inzaghi on the scoresheet for me.

I think no matter what happens, Carlo's job is guaranteed until the end of the season, even if we fail to finish 3rd/4th in the end.

[MizNelson]

Our situation is bad now, but canning Carlo at this point and bringing in a new coach (and thus a new system) wouldn't help matters. We're frazzled enough this season.

[Zed.D]

DELICATE CLASH

3/7/2009 3:22:00 PM

During the press conference on the eve of the clash against Atalanta, Carlo Ancelotti responded to the questions of the numerous journalists present at Milanello, in particular about tomorrow’s game and on the condition of the team.

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MILANELLO – These are the declarations of the Rossoneri's coach Carlo Ancelotti during a press conference at Milanello on the eve of the clash against Atalanta, scheduled for tomorrow at 3pm at San Siro, valid for matchday 27 of Serie A:

ON THE CLASH AGAINST ATALANTA
“Atalanta did not call-up Doni and Floccari, who are two very important players for their game system, therefore it will not be easy to substitute them, but even we have many missing players and we must concentrate on our problems to find the best solution. It will be a delicate game, but after this game the situation will improve.”

ON THE FORMATION ANTI ATALANTA
“Seedorf had some problems yesterday during the training session and his conditions will be evaluated with the last training session today. If he does not make it, a midfielder between Pirlo and Beckham will play as an attacking midfielder, moving Jankulovski in midfield. In defence one between Antonini and Senderos.”

ON THE TEAM’S CONDITION
“We’re in an emergency situation, when compared to last week our situation has not changed much, but after tomorrow’s game, the situation will improve because we will have the possibility to work the entire week for Sunday’s clash and because many important players will return.

“We must only think about our league without thinking about other teams, reaching our objective, which is the third place and then if possible improve it.”

ON THE BECKHAM ISSUE
“The solution to his situation will give Beckham some advantages, because he wants to stay at Milan and this permanence will give him more motivations to do well.”

ON THE FOULS ON PATO
“Pato is a player who as a characteristic is destined to suffer fouls because his speed allows him to arrive on the ball first, before the opponent who tries to stop him. However, at Genoa I was surprised by the systematic fouls on him, and only in one occasion these fouls have been sanctioned with a yellow card.

“Pato is not afraid because he knows these type of situations and his game is not affected. However, he's a player who does not have the characteristics to play as a striker and having a player next to him can help him, but he must understand that if he is more often in the penalty area, it’s simpler for him to score. However, he has a very good teacher, who is Inzaghi. An attack with Inzaghi inside the penalty area and Pato outside is perfect."

ON THE DECLARATIONS OF MOURINHO DURING THE WEEK
“We must only think about ourselves and reach the third place which surely does not give the possibility to add anything to our trophy case, but which allows us next year to play in the Champions League and therefore can be the basis for future triumphs."

ON THE ITALIAN SIDES IN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE
“Inter does not face an easy task and will be the same for Juventus, because Chelsea has acquired more solidity with Hidding. On paper Roma has some more advantage because Arsenal, once in a while, have some stops and not always play well."

[Tennie]

No Doni OR Floccari? Man, we got lucky there.

Pleaseplease play Antonini and not Senderos.

And while I'd prefer a Pato-Borriello type partnership, maybe a Pato-Inzaghi one will work.

[kurtsimonw]

Pirlo/Beckham for AM.. I'm sure it will be Beckham, I don't think Carlo likes to play Pirlo too advanced.

Janku in midfield.. I'm assuming that means Favalli will move to LB if Senderos plays, but I'd rather Antonini get the start!

[MizNelson]

Here's our obscene injury list:

Giocatori indisponibili: Kalac, Kaladze, Nesta, Ambrosini, Gattuso, Seedorf, Kakà, Ronaldinho, Borriello.

[Bluesummers]

No Doni OR Floccari? Man, we got lucky there.

Pleaseplease play Antonini and not Senderos.

And while I'd prefer a Pato-Borriello type partnership, maybe a Pato-Inzaghi one will work.

+1 I hope we can win this.

[CrazyMilanFan]

Here's our obscene injury list:

Giocatori indisponibili: Kalac, Kaladze, Nesta, Ambrosini, Gattuso, Seedorf, Kakà, Ronaldinho, Borriello.

other than kalac all the remaining players are sort of first team starter (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

[Darunia]

Carlo will prob try this:

Abbiati
Zambrotta Bonera Maldini Antonini
Flamini Pirlo Jankulovski
Beckham
Pato Inzaghi




This post has been edited by Darunia: Mar 7 2009, 08:10 PM

[CrazyMilanFan]

favallli is suspended