[dst]

Abbiati/Dida (Fishdoll's neutral here. Dida may feel he's got something to prove but Abbiati hasn't totally sucked so..)
Darmian Maldini Bonera Zambrotta
Mattioni Beckham Pirlo Seedorf
Kaka
Pato

Fishdoll sucks!

[han2503]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Han, you are a meaniehead!

Fishdoll might have to ask the penguins to push YOU facedown in the ice next time!

(sorry for the OT levity, back to our regularly-scheduled programming)

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Fishdoll sucks!

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) See Tennie, the fishdoll is both delusional and getting on dst's nerves with suggesting Seedorf in the "Wishful thinking" line-up (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[whoarethepatriot...]

A agree with Tennie, the kids that played today had a hunger and wanted to win, they are super determined to prove themselves, which contrasts with the current team who want to do nothing except get payed to be on the injury table

They have to be given a chance now, c'mon Ancelotti do something brave for a change

[dst]

A agree with Tennie, the kids that played today had a hunger and wanted to win, they are super determined to prove themselves, which contrasts with the current team who want to do nothing except get payed to be on the injury table

They have to be given a chance now, c'mon Ancelotti do something brave for a change

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[han2503]

A agree with Tennie, the kids that played today had a hunger and wanted to win, they are super determined to prove themselves, which contrasts with the current team who want to do nothing except get payed to be on the injury table

They have to be given a chance now, c'mon Ancelotti do something brave for a change

I personally agree with all of you when it comes to the young ones, but aside from Pato, I can't see any of them getting a decent chance, even if they literally sweat blood during a friendly, Carlo would still be happy to choose the Favalli's, Kaladze's, Emerson's, Ambrosini's, Seedorf's over them, it's just the way things are atm, and until we change coach things won't change.

The only young one that is the exception to this rule is Pato, and that is only because he was pressured to play him at the start by B&G, now Pato's form just dictates that he's started but before, had he come with a much lesser price tag, we would probably only had seen him on rare occasions

This post has been edited by han2503: Mar 4 2009, 08:07 PM

[Fillipo Simone]

I'm sorry,...what kind of thread is this?

[Tennie]

We're attempting to outdo Jack's match hijacking.(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Hey, at least we were talking about a match even if it wasn't Milan-Atalanta.

(Fishdoll still wants Darmian-Mattioni to start, no matter what Han The Party Pooper says.)

[MizNelson]

Sorry, it's the Westie of Extreme Aggravation™ that calls the shots here. Besides the size difference, he has his way with fishdolls and penguins any day of the week.

(IMG:http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u45/BMWTaylor/duffy9.jpg)

[Bluesummers]

I understand the point you're trying to make and I don't think having Sheva makes any difference when it comes to the youngsters on our team.

Case in point last week when we only had Pippo, and no other striker on the bench, did you see Viudez even getting a look in?

Paloschi was loaned out even before they thought of bringing Sheva back, we laways knew that he was going to be loaned, and the only reason Paloshi even got a chance last season was because our only striker at the time was Gila, and Carlo for some unknown reason decided to throw in Paloschi, he got lucky and the kid scored within seconds of coming on, you think had he not scored that goal we would have ever heard of him again? He would have gotten lost in our primavera junk yard, which has gotten pretty extensive during these past few years, what happened to all those kids that everyone raved on about because of U18,20s tournaments and we saw during summer friendlies? I'm sure they had just as much potential as Paloshi, but since they were not as lucky as Paloschi we never saw them again.

And Sheva might still be a Chelsea player but he's obviously going to stay until his contract with them runs out, just like Crespo did with Inter. It's not like we're rehabilitating him so that he could go back next season fit to play for them. I just think had he been given more time, he would have regained his fitness and been able to help us a lot more, but because Carlo had his own personal agenda against him, I probably have better match fitness then Sheva does (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) So I don't understand why you would expect him to step onto the pitch once every 2 months in friendlies and just blow us away with his performance it's unreasonable, and something that could never happen.

What you dont see are a few points han:

1) Sheva is a chelsea player and in order for us to keep him next season guess who has to pay 150k? We can't realistically afford that for long for someone who doesn't do sh!t.

2) If Sheva ever preforms amazing the next season expect chelsea to recall him.

3) sheva is 32 and his contract does not belong to us. He's slow, poor dribbler and wastes too many oppurtunities. I dont agree with why carlo does the things he does but i would prefer inzaghi over shevchenko any day and i agree with him on his decisions regarding sheva.

Paloschi, even had he not scored that goal proved to be a great player with his positioning and desire to work hard. He defended, attacked and gave his all even with the few minutes he got. Shevchenko hasn't done sh!t, on top of that with the chances he has had, hes missed them or ruined them in some way. That is why he doesn't play.

Besides dont be so naive to think that If sheva ever did start bagging in 20 goals that he would be allowed to stay with us. We would have to pay quite bit of money for him and there is also the factor of his wages. I would rather give young players time and have them develop and continue to become greater than some washed up 32 year old with maximum 2-3 seasons left at giving half @ss performances.


Instead of sheva we should have kept paloschi and maybe he would have developed along similar lines as pato.

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Mar 5 2009, 04:30 AM

[Tennie]

Paloschi is developing rather well at Parma, by the way. He's not hitting 20 goals a year but that club had a change in management and for a time the new coach didn't favor Young Alberto. That has changed and the kid has been doing very well recently (since Christmas at least), almost always starting and creating chances even if not always scoring goals.

His goals tend to be of a Pippo-the-goal-poacher variety - the kid's got a good instinct. But he WORKS on the pitch, trackign back, challenging the other team for possession, working on defense, creating space for the other striker (Parma usually plays with 2), etc. And the Parma fans love him. Thing is, he's playing on a very regular basis in a league that's got some pretty rough defenders and he's holding his own - he's learning. It's not an entire negative from either his or Milan's point of view that he's spent the year on loan.

EDIT: And Fishdoll offers Duff a Squeaky Toy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)

This post has been edited by Tennie: Mar 5 2009, 04:42 AM

[Bluesummers]

Paloschi is developing rather well at Parma, by the way. He's not hitting 20 goals a year but that club had a change in management and for a time the new coach didn't favor Young Alberto. That has changed and the kid has been doing very well recently (since Christmas at least), almost always starting and creating chances even if not always scoring goals.

His goals tend to be of a Pippo-the-goal-poacher variety - the kid's got a good instinct. But he WORKS on the pitch, trackign back, challenging the other team for possession, working on defense, creating space for the other striker (Parma usually plays with 2), etc. And the Parma fans love him. Thing is, he's playing on a very regular basis in a league that's got some pretty rough defenders and he's holding his own - he's learning. It's not an entire negative from either his or Milan's point of view that he's spent the year on loan.

EDIT: And Fishdoll offers Duff a Squeaky Toy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)

Yes but we should have him playing for us. I mean while he did get his opportunities he performed. We all knew he was an exceptional talent by the way he maneuvered around the field. But as long carlo is here I guess there is no point to having any youth players here.

[MizNelson]

For the one-day trip, AC Milan arrived with its star players England midfielder David Beckham, Ronaldinho, Kaka, Andriy Shevchenko, Emerson and captain Paulo Maldini. [...] In the second half, Beckham, Shevchenko and Emerson were all benched by Ancelotti as Filipo Inzhaghi, Andrew Pirlo and Dida were brought in to regale the fans with Italian-flavoured football."

Yesiree, I'd say we're so well-known all over the world, eh? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

This post has been edited by MizNelson: Mar 5 2009, 07:23 AM

[CrazyMilanFan]

kaka is out for a longer period of time he is defintly not playing this game

[Tennie]

Yes but we should have him playing for us. I mean while he did get his opportunities he performed. We all knew he was an exceptional talent by the way he maneuvered around the field. But as long carlo is here I guess there is no point to having any youth players here.

You're missing the point, blue. If Paloschi had stayed at Milan, he'd have gotten a fraction of the playing time he's getting at Parma. not because of Carlo but because he'd be the #5 striker. It's a win-win that he's there.

[dst]

Of course he should have gone. I'm 150% sure we'd be talking about how he's not playing and how we've ruined his career had he stayed!