[elcordobez]

sheva is definetly past it. He's brutal to watch.

Well he did give Pato that assist but yeh apart from that he was fairly ineffective



Overall Thiago Silva was by far our motm,it sux that he isn't able to play

[Bluesummers]

Really Favalli was captain??!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif)

I would rather give it to Darmian then the ex Interista that has only been with us for 3 years. I'm sure there was someone else on the pitch that has been a Milan player longer then him. Antonini would have also been a better choice since he's another one of our youth.

inzaghi, sheva, pirlo were all on lol.

[Bluesummers]

This match really gave me a glimmer of hope (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Our youngsters performed really well

Viudez was really good, He's quite fast

Mattioni was also great

Darmian :love:

Thiago Silva Confident in himself as usual


Sheva (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

He's past his normal (not talking about the best)

all we need to do now is get rid of the mental handicap and these youngsters will be given their chance to prove what they can do.

[elcordobez]

I think it would be a waste to put Mattioni as a right back.

I reckon we should slot him in midfield,he has the touch and vision to make a kickass midfielder,he doesn't make too many mistakes either or lose the ball.

I hope in future games he can express himself more and take more chances because it's fairly obvious he was trying to be consistent and always looked for the safer options.

This post has been edited by elcordobez: Mar 4 2009, 07:01 PM

[Tennie]

Fishdoll would like to suggest a starting lineup for the Atalanta game. He's basing his picks on reports of performances today and, well, players he likes. (Fishdoll never claimed to be objective).

Abbiati/Dida (Fishdoll's neutral here. Dida may feel he's got something to prove but Abbiati hasn't totally sucked so..)
Darmian Maldini Bonera Zambrotta
Mattioni Beckham Pirlo Seedorf
Kaka
Pato

With a suggestion to let Viudez come on for Seedorf at some point BEFORE the 85th minute.

[han2503]

I dont think he belongs in milan at all. He takes up needed space. Viudez proved today that he deserves more playing time than sheva and inzaghi combined.

You can say that about Viudez all you want, but at the end of the day Carlo decides who gets to play and we all know that Viudez wouldn't play even if there are no strikers or AM in the team, Carlo would rather play Seedorf as a center forward then give Viudez a chance in a compeitive match

Having said that, I think Sheva has as much a chance as Viudez of getting in the team, simply because Carlo does not like him, before Sheva left no matter what personal problem they had between them, he just had to play Sheva or the torches would come out and the tifosi would hunt him down, but now he can leave him to rot all he wants, and he's doing just that.

I already stated how I feel about Sheva and I personally think that had he been given more playing time, he would have regained match fitness, and I know he can never be 100% but I think he could have at least regained 75% of his old self, and considering how good Sheva was, 75% would be a hell of a lot and would have helped us out a lot too. But again, this is another one of the reasons why I personally think Carlo should go, the fact that he plays favourites and if he doesn't like you he'll make it as hard as he can for you

[Bluesummers]

Fishdoll would like to suggest a starting lineup for the Atalanta game. He's basing his picks on reports of performances today and, well, players he likes. (Fishdoll never claimed to be objective).

Abbiati/Dida (Fishdoll's neutral here. Dida may feel he's got something to prove but Abbiati hasn't totally sucked so..)
Darmian Maldini Bonera Zambrotta
Mattioni Beckham Pirlo Seedorf
Kaka
Pato

With a suggestion to let Viudez come on for Seedorf at some point BEFORE the 85th minute.

I say fishdoll for 2009/2010 as head coach (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Mar 4 2009, 07:03 PM

[Bluesummers]

You can say that about Viudez all you want, but at the end of the day Carlo decides who gets to play and we all know that Viudez wouldn't play even if there are no strikers or AM in the team, Carlo would rather play Seedorf as a center forward then give Viudez a chance in a compeitive match

Having said that, I think Sheva has as much a chance as Viudez of getting in the team, simply because Carlo does not like him, before Sheva left no matter what personal problem they had between them, he just had to play Sheva or the torches would come out and the tifosi would hunt him down, but now he can leave him to rot all he wants, and he's doing just that.

I already stated how I feel about Sheva and I personally think that had he been given more playing time, he would have regained match fitness, and I know he can never be 100% but I think he could have at least regained 75% of his old self, and considering how good Sheva was, 75% would be a hell of a lot and would have helped us out a lot too. But again, this is another one of the reasons why I personally think Carlo should go, the fact that he plays favourites and if he doesn't like you he'll make it as hard as he can for you

Yes but the point I'm trying to make is that If we had given viudez playing time in the season like pato, there was a chance he would have developed into a wonder talent. Sheva at 32 is what good to us? Especially when he belongs to chelsea. Sheva shouldn't have even been brought here because all hes doing is taking up room for someone like viudez. Why do you think poor paloschi was loaned/co-ownershiped. I would rather have paloschi or viudez given time than a 32 year old washed up chelsea player.

[Tennie]

I agree with Fishdoll's projected lineup. Maybe I'm being a bit fatalistic but I'm at the point where I'm not sure we've got all that much to lose and, well, the kids have apparently been doing quite well so why not see if they can get a decent result?

I really like Viudez but honestly think one of the reasons we've not seen him is his stature. The guy's REALLY short - and the big Serie A defenders would have him for lunch if he was fielded before he got accustomed to the game. At least that's my theory. I think he and Cardacio will both be loaned somewhere next year for seasoning.

[han2503]

Fishdoll would like to suggest a starting lineup for the Atalanta game. He's basing his picks on reports of performances today and, well, players he likes. (Fishdoll never claimed to be objective).

Abbiati/Dida (Fishdoll's neutral here. Dida may feel he's got something to prove but Abbiati hasn't totally sucked so..)
Darmian Maldini Bonera Zambrotta
Mattioni Beckham Pirlo Seedorf
Kaka
Pato

With a suggestion to let Viudez come on for Seedorf at some point BEFORE the 85th minute.

The fishdoll might have swalled an anti-Carlo pill because the midfield has not defensive midfielder...

I personally don't like to see us using the flat 4 midfield, it never works, I've said it in all 3 match threads that we played it and we always play badly with it, the Reggina win was more of a fluke rather then a deserved one.

What I'de like to see (Looking at it from a realistic point of view fishdoll...)

Zambro--Maldini--Bonera--Janku
Beckham--Pirlo--Flamini
Kaka
Pato--Sheva

It was a toss up between Seedorf and Becks, but based on how they both played in the last 3 games, Beckham would win hands down, and he hasn't even been playing that well, which should say a lot about how much Seedorf sucked.

Pato and Sheva as the attacking duo, because we haven't really gotten to see them in action together since the second group game of the UEFA Cup, and I really liked their dynamic when they played together.

Hopefully we'll know more new on Dinho as the match approaches, but if he's not fit, then I want to see 2 strikers not Seedorf and Kaka plus 1 striker, I'm seriously fead up with this one striker sh!t, Carlo needs to get over it.

[han2503]

Yes but the point I'm trying to make is that If we had given viudez playing time in the season like pato, there was a chance he would have developed into a wonder talent. Sheva at 32 is what good to us? Especially when he belongs to chelsea. Sheva shouldn't have even been brought here because all hes doing is taking up room for someone like viudez. Why do you think poor paloschi was loaned/co-ownershiped. I would rather have paloschi or viudez given time than a 32 year old washed up chelsea player.

I understand the point you're trying to make and I don't think having Sheva makes any difference when it comes to the youngsters on our team.

Case in point last week when we only had Pippo, and no other striker on the bench, did you see Viudez even getting a look in?

Paloschi was loaned out even before they thought of bringing Sheva back, we laways knew that he was going to be loaned, and the only reason Paloshi even got a chance last season was because our only striker at the time was Gila, and Carlo for some unknown reason decided to throw in Paloschi, he got lucky and the kid scored within seconds of coming on, you think had he not scored that goal we would have ever heard of him again? He would have gotten lost in our primavera junk yard, which has gotten pretty extensive during these past few years, what happened to all those kids that everyone raved on about because of U18,20s tournaments and we saw during summer friendlies? I'm sure they had just as much potential as Paloshi, but since they were not as lucky as Paloschi we never saw them again.

And Sheva might still be a Chelsea player but he's obviously going to stay until his contract with them runs out, just like Crespo did with Inter. It's not like we're rehabilitating him so that he could go back next season fit to play for them. I just think had he been given more time, he would have regained his fitness and been able to help us a lot more, but because Carlo had his own personal agenda against him, I probably have better match fitness then Sheva does (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) So I don't understand why you would expect him to step onto the pitch once every 2 months in friendlies and just blow us away with his performance it's unreasonable, and something that could never happen.

[Tennie]

Han, you're going to make Fishdoll cry with all your Realpolitik!

Fishdoll maintains that the kids have shown they deserve a chance of some kind. They're at least TRYING, which is more than one can say for most of the regular starters.

[han2503]

I agree with Fishdoll's projected lineup. Maybe I'm being a bit fatalistic but I'm at the point where I'm not sure we've got all that much to lose and, well, the kids have apparently been doing quite well so why not see if they can get a decent result?

I really like Viudez but honestly think one of the reasons we've not seen him is his stature. The guy's REALLY short - and the big Serie A defenders would have him for lunch if he was fielded before he got accustomed to the game. At least that's my theory. I think he and Cardacio will both be loaned somewhere next year for seasoning.

I'm absolutely shocked that you would agree with that sea creature at all let alone his line-up (note the sarcasm people) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[han2503]

Han, you're going to make Fishdoll cry with all your Realpolitik!

Fishdoll maintains that the kids have shown they deserve a chance of some kind. They're at least TRYING, which is more than one can say for most of the regular starters.

Advise fishdoll to write that in his suicide letter to Carlo (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Tennie]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Han, you are a meaniehead!

Fishdoll might have to ask the penguins to push YOU facedown in the ice next time!

(sorry for the OT levity, back to our regularly-scheduled programming)