[Habitant]

before the last world cup they were already making and selling a jersey witht 6 stars (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[acid911]

I'd rather not reply in detail, as it will stretch too long without much benefit for any of the parties involved. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Some random thoughts:

- Ronaldinho is just about the nicest guy you'll meet. His skipping training is called unprofessionalism.
- I'm more into the Kaka or Ronaldo celebration than Inzaghi's, seeing as Pippo's may offend the fans of other teams.
- There is a fine line between arrogance and over-confidence.
- Same goes between pride and gratification.
- The younger generation of Brazil NT is different than the one I lived through (R99, Cafu, Kaka, Leo).
- Arrogance is a relative word.
- What did Brazil do when won the last Copa America defeating Argentina? Nothing.
- If they'd have won it, you should have seen the reactions.
- What did the canary guys do when they lost to France twice in World Cups? Yeah. Nothing.
- They accepted defeat, unlike their neighbors.
- I'm not Brazil's biggest fan, thank you. I'm a fan of good football.
- Obviously you dislike them enough to see the bad points.
- Same goes for me, I guess, when it comes to other teams.

No sense in beating the bush. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) You obviously have your own opinion of them, and I do too. So let's bury the hatchet, and here's a pitcher of ice-cold beer to get things straight. Or two pitchers.

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[acid911]

I'm sorry to spoil your fun but when I click at the link, I don't logged out...

Oh dear, have to send for Pola to recheck the code. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I'm not that good with this stuff.

before the last world cup they were already making and selling a jersey witht 6 stars

Is that supposed to be a bad thing? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) It was the fans/public who did it. And I'm sure fans of other nations do the same, though less severe. I even had a Ukrainian friend proclaiming that they'd win the 2006 World Cup because they had a God playing for them. *cough* Sheva *cough*. Fans and press do the silliest of things. It's when the players jump in that's when it gets ugly, because ultimately it's the players who've got to do the dirty work on the field.

[Zed.D]

Like I said, you ain't gonna seduce me with your emo's. Surely not with such simple ones...

ok dst i surrender

goodness gracious, dst and zd. You two are flirting all over the board! Get a room or something! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)

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Argentinean coach's reaction after Riquelme scored the third goal via penalty today.

It was... (IMG:http://qsmile.com/qsimages/65.gif) (IMG:http://qsmile.com/qsimages/65.gif) (IMG:http://qsmile.com/qsimages/65.gif)

I believe I'm not biased against Brazil.

Oh, you definitely are.

That's why I think the Brazilians are arrogant, it's not what they say, it's their behavior on the pitch. It's the "you can't touch me" attitude, it's the way they look at their opponents with a grim on their face it's the way they play football; they like to dribble without actually doing anything productive in the game just to humiliate their opponents...

You clearly are biased against them. CLEARLY. nothing wrong with it, just don't say you are not, because you are. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Ronaldinho is not arrogant? I repeat, it's not what you say, it's what you do... when Ronadlinho reached the top and started skipping training sessions, what was that?

I suggest you to take a look in your dictionary for 'arrogance' because you clearly have a wrong definition of it in your mind.

What the hell has skipping trainings got to do with arrogance? you can call that over-confidence, unprofessionalism, even laziness, but not arrogance. please be fair a little... you don't even seem to know Ronaldinho. have you ever seen him outside the pitch? his relations with other people, the fans, his family, etc. I bet you haven't otherwise you wouldn't have called him arrogant, for skipping training sessions. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

before the last world cup they were already making and selling a jersey witht 6 stars (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Any reliable links to back up that statement??

- Ronaldinho is just about the nicest guy you'll meet. His skipping training is called unprofessionalism.

+1. plus that he's always been humble even when he was the absolute #1 (unlike some people who are #1 now and it's alright for them to be arrogant).

- What did Brazil do when won the last Copa America defeating Argentina? Nothing.

And what did Argies do in 2004 Copa America final when they started celebrating before the final whistle just to provoke Brazilians, but Adriano scored right at death and Argies miserably lost the game in the end?? I'm sure according to some people that was not arrogance at all (unless Brazilians were doing it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) )

[Jack Sparrow]

Now y'all don't need a room like 10ie suggested, you need an octagon. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I support Brazil, since there seem to be more women from Brazil on the Hot Chicas Thread. I suppose that is as logical as reason as any...

[Fillipo Simone]

I don't actually pay that much attention to any sport to see who's arrogant or not. Brazilians usually are, but they usually also have a reason to be that way.

I watched the Brazil-Argentina match and I think it was a classic Argentine play. Typical for them - they sleep 1/3 of the match through (but not for defensive issues), they play in all about 15 minutes of offensive football, score once or twice in that period (if it's a good day) and then pull the breaks and play with their head. I've seen them play that way countless times since 2000. It backfires mostly, but when they're "in", than they can make it through the final.

Brazil needed a better defense. They were just to green and that no-goal record made them over-confident. But this Breno guy...is he any good other then getting sent off? I mean, did you see the Oli Kahn farewell friendly match?

Breno foul

[acid911]

I love you, zd. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Having said that, I don't necessarily think dst's wrong either. Maybe he sees somethings which we don't. Like Fillipo said, maybe they are. Maybe some of the players in the team are.

[acid911]

Any reliable links to back up that statement??

They did. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Though it wasn't the official Brazil football federation, just fans and general public.

+1. plus that he's always been humble even when he was the absolute #1 (unlike some people who are #1 now and it's alright for them to be arrogant).

Exactly. At the very most his later night parties, ways and antics border unprofessionalism. Which is never the best of things, but arrogance it was not. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) According to Paolo, Maradonna was worse in his days. He's train for 5 minutes at most. If you want to call that training.

And what did Argies do in 2004 Copa America final when they started celebrating before the final whistle just to provoke Brazilians, but Adriano scored right at death and Argies miserably lost the game in the end?? I'm sure according to some people that was not arrogance at all (unless Brazilians were doing it)

Glad you brought that up. No one is a saint, I of all people should know that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Particularly teams such as Brazil, Argentina, England, Germany, and any such successful one.

[Tennie]

So the bronze medal match has just started. And...Jo is in attack. Pato is on the bench.

[acid911]

Pato is on the bench.

I yearn for the day Dunga is not on the bench. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) In fact, no where near a 100 miles of the Brazil NT. He's fallen a lot in my eyes for the stubbornness he's displayed in the past two years.

[Mook]

Anyone manage to find a stream for this game?

[Tennie]

Not sure if it's a help, Mook, but MSNBC is showing it live in the US. I'll be able to watch the first half before going to work.

It's scoreless in the 23rd. Belgium have parked the bus in front of goal.

EDIT: Ronaldinho given a yellow for diving in the 26th. It didn't look like a dive to me. The Belgian player kicked him.

And Diego goal in the 27th. Brazil 1 - 0 Belgium.

This post has been edited by Tennie: Aug 22 2008, 12:27 PM

[acid911]

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Belgium are playing like Belgium. Full-time defense. At least Brazil scored a goal, and are in the lead. Fingers crossed they can build on it. And what on holy earth was Ronaldinho thinking? Hehehe.

[acid911]

Anyone manage to find a stream for this game?

Here you go! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) This one has been working fine for me, though the audio at times is a bit screechy:

Brazil vs Belgium

[Tennie]

Goal Jo. Brazil 2 - 0 Belgium.

Goal courtesy of a nice through pass by Ronaldinho.