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post Aug 17 2008, 01:22 AM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 17 2008, 01:15 AM) *
Let's take this one down several notches, shall we?


Sure thing... it's just this is a touchy subject for me. The ball really never crossed the line (example, 1966 world cup final).

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post Aug 17 2008, 01:43 AM
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QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Aug 17 2008, 01:22 AM) *
Sure thing... it's just this is a touchy subject for me. The ball really never crossed the line (example, 1966 world cup final).

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Don't even think about bringing that up. The goal has never been proven to NOT cross the line, and the only player that said he saw it was Martin Peters who said it DID cross the line. Why would he lie? It's not like they're going to take the WC from us is it? and that goal was irrelevant anyways, the German 90th minute equaliser shouldn't have counted. They were lucky to even get ET. Won won the game by 2 clear goals anyways. End of.

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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 17 2008, 12:43 AM) *
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Don't even think about bringing that up. The goal has never been proven to NOT cross the line, and the only player that said he saw it was Martin Peters who said it DID cross the line. Why would he lie? It's not like they're going to take the WC from us is it? and that goal was irrelevant anyways, the German 90th minute equaliser shouldn't have counted. They were lucky to even get ET. Won won the game by 2 clear goals anyways. End of.


It never crossed the line and some people have their own agendas. Of course you would stick to that story, but historically, all the photographs have been analyzed and the ball NEVER crossed the line. This isn't the thread for it... this is the Alexandre Pato thread.

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post Aug 18 2008, 12:02 PM
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At the risk of incurring zd's wrath, I'm including here a quote from Brazil coach Dunga. This version's from Mediaset but I've seen it in other places.

Secondo il ct brasiliano Carlos Dunga, molto difficilmente Pato tornerà titolare nella nazionale olimpica. Il deludente asso del Milan, infatti, sostituito durante i quarti con il Camerun, sembra aver perso la fiducia del suo allenatore. "Ho scelto Rafael Sobis - ha spiegato Dunga - perché sa affrontare una marcatura stretta, aprire gli spazi e non andare in fuorigioco. Pato deve crescere ancora e imparare a liberarsi dalle marcature.

[According to the Brazilian NT coach Carlos Dunga, it'll be very difficult for Pato to start again for the Brazilian Olympic team. The disappointing Milan ace, substituted during the quarters with Cameroon, seems to have lost the faith of his coach. 'I chose Rafael Sobis,' said Dunga, 'because he knows how to confront tight marking, open spaces, and not go offside. Pato needs to grow still and learn how to get away from his markers.']

Rather harsh words, those.
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post Aug 18 2008, 12:26 PM
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I don't know if he wants to charge him up with those words but if it affects Pato in a negative way, it's a pretty stupid thing to say when Brazil are still in the competition and he might need Pato's services...

Besides, I don't know where this is coming from... Pato has been poor but Sobis has been ever poorer!
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post Aug 18 2008, 12:48 PM
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Those are some stupid words from a stupid coach under whom Brazil has played the ugliest brand of football in many years. what makes Pato special is what he's been doing at such a young age. any dork can see he needs to learn many things still. he's 18/19, the youngest member of Brazil's Olympic team (along Breno) for ****'s sake. how can he 'grow' if you don't let him play?? thank god he's not the coach of Milan, and thank god it's only two/three games. it won't hurt his confidence.
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post Aug 18 2008, 12:51 PM
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^^

Exactly. Brazil haven't been all that smooth either in the Olympics so far. So I'm not entirely sure why Pato has been singled out, especially when there still in the competition.
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post Aug 18 2008, 01:09 PM
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He needs tender care with a correct supervision .

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post Aug 18 2008, 01:12 PM
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(so, zd, shall we put Dunga into a tank with siamese fighter fish?)
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post Aug 18 2008, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 18 2008, 03:42 PM) *
(so, zd, shall we put Dunga into a tank with siamese fighter fish?)


Yes, sure! ((IMG:http://www.pic4ever.com/images/shrk.gif) )

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post Aug 18 2008, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE (Mook @ Aug 18 2008, 02:51 PM) *
Exactly. Brazil haven't been all that smooth either in the Olympics so far. So I'm not entirely sure why Pato has been singled out, especially when there still in the competition.

Ronaldinho, Anderson, Leiva have all been poor... it's not like Pato is getting proper service...

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post Aug 18 2008, 02:41 PM
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zd, the fish doll loves you forever for that smiley.
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post Aug 18 2008, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Aug 18 2008, 06:07 PM) *
Ronaldinho, Anderson, Leiva have all been poor... it's not like Pato is getting proper service...


EXACTLY!! I saw Brazil against New Zelanad and Pato never got proper service by the midfielders, no more than two or three times in the whole game.
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QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Aug 18 2008, 03:16 PM) *


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QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 18 2008, 06:11 PM) *
zd, the fish doll loves you forever for that smiley.


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