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post Aug 16 2008, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 16 2008, 03:03 PM) *
I don't know why he didn't play. The US commentators didn't say anything at all about injuries. There were shots of him on the bench and the commentators were screaming for him to come on from the beginning of the second half on. I'm wondering if they didn't want to risk injury. Cameroon played an extremely physical game.


Yeah..I guess that's why..Cuz Cameroon usually plays football from a physical point of view and maybe Dunga probably needed fresh blood and physical possession..That's why he opted to go with Rafael Sobis
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post Aug 16 2008, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE (gal_kenny @ Aug 16 2008, 04:58 PM) *
Fifa must have gotten it wrong then..Ma bad guys...But hopefully Pato isn't injured..Or Tennie did the commentators give any commentary on Pato?


If he was, it would be like the story of 'the boy who cried wolf' ... Try convincing Zd again, Gluck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Aug 16 2008, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 16 2008, 03:03 PM) *
I don't know why he didn't play. The US commentators didn't say anything at all about injuries. There were shots of him on the bench and the commentators were screaming for him to come on from the beginning of the second half on. I'm wondering if they didn't want to risk injury. Cameroon played an extremely physical game.


Yeah..I guess that's why..Cuz Cameroon usually plays football from a physical point of view and maybe Dunga probably needed fresh blood and physical possession..That's why he opted to go with Rafael Sobis
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post Aug 16 2008, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 16 2008, 02:03 PM) *
I don't know why he didn't play. The US commentators didn't say anything at all about injuries. There were shots of him on the bench and the commentators were screaming for him to come on from the beginning of the second half on. I'm wondering if they didn't want to risk injury. Cameroon played an extremely physical game.


I think Milan probably told Dunga not to risk him... I wouldn't have either. It was purely a tactical move.

Anyways, I hope whoever faces Belgium next destroys them.
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post Aug 16 2008, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Aug 16 2008, 03:07 PM) *
I think Milan probably told Dunga not to risk him... I wouldn't have either. It was purely a tactical move.

Anyways, I hope whoever faces Belgium next destroys them.


I know right..Very Very shocking to see Italy out of the competition..
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post Aug 16 2008, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE (gal_kenny @ Aug 16 2008, 02:11 PM) *
I know right..Very Very shocking to see Italy out of the competition..


Personally it doesn't surprise me. Poor refereeing and Italy in one sentence does not surprise me at all. Belgium had more than just 11 men on the field. They had the referees too.

Anyways, I hope Pato plays the next Brazil match and that Brazil goes to glory in this... even though I do not view this competition as legitimate.
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post Aug 16 2008, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE (gal_kenny @ Aug 16 2008, 10:06 AM) *
Yeah..I guess that's why..Cuz Cameroon usually plays football from a physical point of view and maybe Dunga probably needed fresh blood and physical possession..That's why he opted to go with Rafael Sobis

I think Sobis is a FANTASTIC player and slightly more along in his development than Pato (obviously given his age). Pato is more talented though....what I wouldn't give to see him play for us (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Aug 16 2008, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE (armiss @ Aug 16 2008, 06:59 PM) *
but we must know acid source , i hope it is not true and if it is , no serious

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) It was our friendly neighborhood Rossoneri7 playing a joke on zd. And I tagged along for the ride. So in all probability Pato is fine and dandy, nothing to be worried about. He's perfectly healthy.
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post Aug 16 2008, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Aug 16 2008, 08:57 PM) *
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) It was our friendly neighborhood Rossoneri7 playing a joke on zd. And I tagged along for the ride. So in all probability Pato is fine and dandy, nothing to be worried about. He's perfectly healthy.

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post Aug 16 2008, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE (GrinReaper @ Aug 16 2008, 07:37 PM) *
Hopefully

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Hopefully. But I'd be very, very surprised if he isn't. Here's to seeing the duck in the semis! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Aug 16 2008, 03:39 PM
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Strictly a tactical move not playing him... it could pay off later...
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post Aug 17 2008, 12:46 AM
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QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Aug 16 2008, 03:13 PM) *
Personally it doesn't surprise me. Poor refereeing and Italy in one sentence does not surprise me at all. Belgium had more than just 11 men on the field. They had the referees too.

I can't agree with that. He sent a Belgian off and gave Italy after 15 minutes! Italy were at fault for everything, they went from 1-0 to 2-1 down against 10 men, it just aint good enough. Then the referee gave them another penalty. To say he was on Belgiums side is a bit harsh. He did alot to help Italy.

But as in the Euro's, Italy do have this very "The World is against us" attitude, whenever they don't win, it's the refs fault. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Aug 17 2008, 12:53 AM
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In fairness, Kurt, the first Belgian goal should probably not have been given. There's a legitimate complaint about that one being a bad call. The rest...not so much. They just didn't bring enough to the table.

The Italian press I've read so far does mention the questionable calls but they're actually more critical of the subpar performances.
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post Aug 17 2008, 01:13 AM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 16 2008, 11:46 PM) *
I can't agree with that. He sent a Belgian off and gave Italy after 15 minutes! Italy were at fault for everything, they went from 1-0 to 2-1 down against 10 men, it just aint good enough. Then the referee gave them another penalty. To say he was on Belgiums side is a bit harsh. He did alot to help Italy.

But as in the Euro's, Italy do have this very "The World is against us" attitude, whenever they don't win, it's the refs fault. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Totally utterly disagreed. Italy played a lot better in this competition, and they were penalised unfairly on several calls. You simply don't have a case. Not at all. And what rubbish. He didn't help Italy, he only harmed Italy and it is verified fact that one of the Belgian goals DID NOT CROSS THE LINE. Simple facts like that can tilt the game towards the Belgians.

It is the referee's fault. So your statements are utterly wrong.

If the first Belgian goal wasn't awarded the balance of game WOULD MOST CERTAINLY BE DIFFERENT.

I don't mean to come down harsh on you, but I think you're simply wrong.
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post Aug 17 2008, 01:15 AM
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Let's take this one down several notches, shall we?
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