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> 23/01/2008 - Serie A - Atalanta vs AC Milan, game in hand

 
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post Jan 23 2008, 11:29 PM
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goal.com: AC Milan ratings

Kalac – 6: In truth Kalac did not have a worthwhile save to make all game. He was faultless on both of Atalanta’s goals.

Bonera – 5.5: Given a real run-around by Langella and made very little impact as an attacking force either.

Nesta – 5.5: Poor game from one of the world’s best defenders. Fell hook, line and sinker for Langella’s dummy on the equalising goal, and had a rocky night.

Kaladze – 5.5: Kaladze had been a rock for 60 minutes of the game until a quite horrendous error gifted Atalanta the winner. If it hadn’t been for this mistake Kaladze probably would have got a rating of 7/7.5. Unfortunately this is how it works. If you are an angel all your life and you commit murder, you still go to prison.

Favalli – 5: I was never a fan of Favalli when he was in his prime – even less so now he is in his mid-30s. At fault for the first goal.

Gattuso – 6.5: Much improved performance from Gattuso who at least showed signs of returning to form. He is still lacking the fire and energy that we have come to know from him though. Will this ever return?

Seedorf – 6: Flattered to deceive did Seedorf tonight. He always threatened to produce some brilliance but it never quite came off. Was unlucky not to earn an equaliser at the death as his piledriver was brilliantly saved by Coppola.

Pirlo – 8: Absolutely brilliant once again. Sprayed passes around the pitch all game and was the man behind all of Milan’s first half dominance. At one point I counted five 30-yard passes to a team-mate’s feet within the space of five minutes. Genius!

Kaka – 6.5: Electric in the first half, but went missing in the second, despite an excellent late turn and shot that forced a save out of Coppola.

Pato – 6: Disappointing game from the youngster. Showed some explosive bursts in the first half, but he missed a glorious one-on-one and barely had a kick after the break.

Gilardino – 5.5: What can you say about Gilardino? He just isn’t a Milan player - simple as that. His lack of technical quality just doesn’t suit the Rossoneri. He is not on the same wavelength as the likes of Kaka, Seedorf and Pirlo.

Substitutes: Ronaldo - 6, Oddo – 4.5, Gourcuff - NA
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post Jan 23 2008, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Jan 24 2008, 01:53 AM)
Well.

I'm glad I didn't see the game and don't know if I'll stay up late to watch the replay.

That said, it seems the prediction I made some months ago is sadly accurate: I predicted a bad season and it looks like we're having one.

Motivation is a big problem. So is the lack of depth. Both need to be fixed, but in honesty I don't know if they CAN be fixed in time to save Milan this year.
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... Seriously, what will happen if we fail to finish in top four? this is getting scary now (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Jan 23 2008, 11:32 PM
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We'll win the CL (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jan 23 2008, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE (m1ke @ Jan 24 2008, 02:02 AM)

What will happen if we fail in our league objectives, and, don't win the CL? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jan 23 2008, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE
“It was a mistake, the pitch was slippery and this can happen. It was a mistake that cost us dearly, though.”

Oh come on, there was no mistake... edit Kaladze out and you can see that it was simply a case of 2 against one... Kaladze did not do any mistake, it just would have been no different if he had stayed at home!

Alright... I'm a good doggy and I will believe that the pitch was slippery while waging my lil' tail... but the dumb **** jumped! Now don't tell me the air at Bergamo is slippery too cause the doggy will bite!!

Just keep him fielding him... he's done worse... Siena anyone?

QUOTE (arivanjj @ Jan 23 2008, 11:37 PM)

Just look at Nesta's reaction... there's nothing more to say. He just can't believe he saw that.

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jan 24 2008, 12:18 AM)

Yeah... why not? It's possible... I mean... I thought anyone who's payed at least 5 bucks can stop Simone Inzaghi...
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post Jan 23 2008, 11:58 PM
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why is it that all our goalies we have out on loan are playing amazing but the goalies we keep strugle?
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post Jan 24 2008, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE (august_milan @ Jan 24 2008, 02:28 AM)
why is it that all our goalies we have out on loan are playing amazing but the goalies we keep strugle?
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Bad management I guess... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jan 24 2008, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE (dst @ Jan 23 2008, 04:46 PM)
Just keep him fielding him... he's done worse... Siena anyone?
Just look at Nesta's reaction... there's nothing more to say. He just can't believe he saw that.

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post Jan 24 2008, 12:13 AM
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QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jan 24 2008, 01:36 AM)
What will happen if we fail in our league objectives, and, don't win the CL?  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Very good question !!


It isn't a matter of either/or ... Sure there is a possibility of missing out on the final and 4th place; which would ultimately cause havoc amongst both the San Siro crowd and the Milan dressing room. Not only that, it might even lead to the end of this current cycle of Milan, whatever goes up must come down.

What Milan accomplished last season was something beyond normal. It was Milan against the world, and at times against it's own fans !

Can it happen again ? Sure it can, we'll see .. The odds are stacking up just like they did last season (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

p.s. But if this same performance continues, then 4th place is not possible. But the CL, I believe Milan can do it (it's for Paolo afterall) and no team holds Milan's current record in that tournament.
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post Jan 24 2008, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jan 24 2008, 01:04 AM)
(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) He puts his hands up at first like, "what the f@ck was that?" And then after Tissone scores he starts bitching at God for creating such ineffectual creature... Hilarious... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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It's really a case of "what the **** was that?"!! Kaladze is not unskillful he's just unbearably stupid! He thinks that no matter the situation he can take the ball away. Sometimes you just have to do the simple things... all he had to do in this occasion was to smoothly stand beside his opponent. Especially since it was Simone Inzaghi; if he had not lost the ball, the ball would have lost him... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

@Carletto: Pato cannot score 30 goals, it's just that you always gave Ale and Kakha different-color bibs...
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post Jan 24 2008, 12:25 AM
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How can we lose to this guys?

Honestly. We're a f joke.
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post Jan 24 2008, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE (Porty @ Jan 23 2008, 11:25 PM)
How can we lose to this guys?

Honestly. We're a f joke.
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We're just the same as Liverpool in my opinion. Crap tactics, can't beat small teams. Don't deserve to be in the CL next season. Simple as that.

We're over the half way point, the games are starting to run down now and we need to start being consistant, otherwise we have zero chance of finishing in the top 4. When was the last time we put a few wins together!?

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post Jan 24 2008, 12:31 AM
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Here are datasport's ratings. They're not at all kind to Milan. I can't remember the last time more than one player got a 4 from these guys.

Kalac 6.5 Buone parate, incolpevole sui gol. [Good game, goals not his fault.]

Bonera 6 Gioca un buon primo tempo, ma poi deve lasciare il campo al piu` offensivo Oddo. [Played a good first half, but then was subbed out for the more offensive-minded Oddo.]

Kaladze 5.5 Il modulo a due punte piu` Kaka` e Seedorf scopre la difesa. Lui e` bravo negli anticipi, ma va in difficolta` quando e` uno contro uno. [The 2 striker model puts pressure on the defense. He's good in anticipating, but has problems with one on ones.]

Favalli 5 Non ha piu` l`eta` per le sgroppate e infatti non gli vengono richieste visto che dovrebbe rimanere a presidiare la zona difensiva, Pero` con la velocita` di Ferreira Pinto soffre parecchio. [Not young enough. Suffered against the speed of Ferreira Pinto.]

Nesta 5.5 Cerca di mantenere la bussola, ma non puo` evitare di andare in difficolta` viste le mancate coperture dei centrocampisti. [Tries to maintain the line but can't avoid problems with the missing cover of the midfielders.]

Oddo 4 Poco piu` di 20 minuti sono bastati per far capire perche` Ancelotti gli preferisce Bonera. Entra per dare un po` di spinta e garantire qualche cross decente in mezzo, ma non fa nessuna delle due cose. Inguardabile. [20 minutes is enough to understand why Ancelotti prefers Bonera. Enters to provide some decent crosses, but doesn't do it.]

Kaka` 6.5 Il solito gran movimento alla ricerca dello schizzo vincente. Per poco, a cinque minuti dalla fine, non gli riesce. [Theusual great movement in search of a winning play. In short order, in five minuts from the end, it does not succeed.]t
Gourcuff s.v. Qualche scatto velleitario in una decina di minuti. [Some decent plays in ten minutes.]

Pirlo 7 Dirige il gioco con ritrovata maestria, sembra che solo dai suoi piedi possano partire azioni decisive. [Directs the game, seems to be the only one whose feet can direct decisive actions.]

Seedorf 6 Inizia alla grande con alcune giocate davvero spettacolari. Poi cala alla distanza costretto in un ruolo che ormai non sente piu` suo. [Started well with some spectacular plays. After fell into a role he doesn't feel.]

Gattuso 6.5 Un gol, anche se fortuito, e una partita giocata con la solita generosita` gli fanno meritare un ampia sufficienza. [One goal, even if lucky, and a game decently played.]

Ronaldo 5 Gioca una mezzoretta, ma a differenza di Udine non riesce a trovare nemmeno uno spunto. [Played 30 minutes but doesn't find any chances.]

Gilardino 4.5 Quando un attaccante non ha nemmeno un`occasione, la colpa e` anche sua che non se la cerca. [When a striker doesn't have even one chance, the fault is also his for not looking for them.]

Pato 4 Decisivo in negativo. Clamoroso e imperdonabile l`errore sullo 0-1 che avrebbe pootuto chiudere la partita. [Decisively negative. Impardonable error on the attempt that could've closed the game.]
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post Jan 24 2008, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 23 2008, 11:29 PM)
We're just the same as Liverpool in my opinion. Crap tactics, can't beat small teams. Don't deserve to be in the CL next season. Simple as that.

We're over the half way point, the games are starting to run down now and we need to start being consistant, otherwise we have zero chance of finishing in the top 4. When was the last time we put a few wins together!?
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And it's funny that some guys in this forum laugh at Liverpool CL/PL situation... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Anyway... sack Ancelotti. I'm tired of that face in Milan bench.
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post Jan 24 2008, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 24 2008, 01:29 AM)
We're over the half way point, the games are starting to run down now and we need to start being consistant, otherwise we have zero chance of finishing in the top 4. When was the last time we put a few wins together!?
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Not really, this was our 17th game. But we do need consistency if we want to reach 4th place. It's still highly possibly but not if we keep playing like this.
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