[Portman]

http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Alves/Ba...sdaiftb_40/Tes/

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Ronaldinho to Chelsea, Daniel Alves to Barcelona.

What the hell is this? Are they joking with the entire Europe or what? I really hope so... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[PS: I just posted this in the Milan NEWS section because it talks about 10R]

[dst]

Who said I was laughing ?!

And I wasn't talking to u in the first place ... U just jumping head in to a discussion where I was trying to understand how a wing back (Alves) is to be compared to a forward (R10).

If u and Kurt don't rate R10 .. That is ok, I am not his lawyer and I am not implying that everyone should believe that he really is the best. All I am saying is he has won a lot ! And he is, believe it or not, the MVP in Europe.

Carlos is a great wing back !! I never said anything to contradict this; all I said is he is a wing back and shouldn't be compared to a forward !

Ronaldo is the phenomenon and I have nothing more to add about him, wearing the Rossoneri jersey leaves little for me to add (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

Nesta is the best centerback in the world (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I didn't disagree there ... Madrid bought Pepe for how much ? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ... Thus it isn't an exception to the rule .. center backs like Nesta, Puyol, Terry, Ferdinand, Carrager, etc they would cost a fortune .. Thus it isn't an exception to the rule.

But Alves ?! IMO he has been too hyped up. He is good, but not Milan quality good. And u don't have to agree with me ... Cuz he really isn't that important of a player for me in the first place

Well yes, he's won a lot... so does Deco... and Zidane... I can't see how some people can compare Ronaldinho but not Zidane to Pele and Maradona! Bergkamp has won little... does that mean he's crap!? What I'm trying to say is that it's not just about how much you've won... for me at least. R10 is undoubtedly a world-class player... but he's not as good as you are implying. He has not been more important for Barcelona than Deco and Puyol have in the past couple of seasons! Kaka is the MVP in Europe at the moment.

I rate Carlos higher than that... I was trying to say that he should have won the Golden Ball. Maybe even twice!

You just said Madrid are turning into an over-spending club... There are only around 10 defenders that would cost much! You named 5 of them... of course proven defenders (those 10 actually) are going to cost a lot of money! But still, how much would Puyol cost and how much would Eto'o cost!?? I don't think Eto'o is more important a footballer than Puyol! I was talking about unproven players in the first place... players like Nani and Anderson... we've seen dozens of them getting sold for crazy sums while Pepe is the only defender... he is an exception...

Alves had been hyped up!? Sure, who isn't? But in a much lesser extent than Ronaldinho whose picture should appear in vocabularies next to the word hype!! Why do you think Alves is not important?

This post has been edited by dst: Aug 26 2007, 12:25 PM

[Rossoneri7]

Well yes, he's won a lot... so does Deco... and Zidane... I can't see how some people can compare Ronaldinho but not Zidane to Pele and Maradona! Bergkamp has won little... does that mean he's crap!? What I'm trying to say is that it's not just about how much you've won... for me at least. R10 is undoubtedly a world-class player... but he's not as good as you are implying. He has not been more important for Barcelona than Deco and Puyol have in the past couple of seasons! Kaka is the MVP in Europe at the moment.

I rate Carlos higher than that... I was trying to say that he should have won the Golden Ball. Maybe even twice!

You just said Madrid are turning into an over-spending club... There are only around 10 defenders that would cost much! You named 5 of them... of course proven defenders (those 10 actually) are going to cost a lot of money! But still, how much would Puyol cost and how much would Eto'o cost!?? I don't think Eto'o is more important a footballer than Puyol! I was talking about unproven players in the first place... players like Nani and Anderson... we've seen dozens of them getting sold for crazy sums while Pepe is the only defender... he is an exception...

Where is this going ?! All I wanted to know was how one can compare Alves to Ronaldinho.

I do agree with 90% of what u said (10% being R10 (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) .. And Bergkamp is a f@cking legend !!!! And Zidane, well it’s better we don’t go there (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

When I said he won a lot .. I didn’t tell u compare him to others, I’m defining what type of a player he is, a winner.

Alves had been hyped up!? Sure, who isn't? But in a much lesser extent than Ronaldinho whose picture should appear in vocabularies next to the word hype!! Why do you think Alves is not important?

Well to u R10 is hyped up … Do I ask u why ?! It's ur opinion of him (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

When I said not important, I meant not important for me to discuss at full length .. But because I like u so much – we can do it all nite

[kurtsimonw]

I like u so much – we can do it all nite

Selective quoting at it's best. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Sorry R7, only messing. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

Selective quoting at it's best.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Sorry R7, only messing.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

By all means ..

Plus, u probably weren't aware that dst used to be my ex ... So .. Well before the operation that is, she was a penguin back then (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) It's complicated