[KillerMax]

You know, I'm really not that excited about all this hype around Pato. He is getting too much praise for so little he has done. And we have allegedly paid 22m Euros form him. That's a lot of money for someone who could well turn out to be just an average player at Milan. Just the way our official website is hyping this signing like it's the greatest thing that has ever happened in the World of football gets me all bored. We bought a 17 year old kid with braces and we call our summer signings over?

First of all that's too much unnecessary pressure on the kid.

Second of all, look at Barca's squad for god sake. They have the best young player in the World in Messi. And then they have Krkic and Dos Santos. I haven't seen much from Santos, but Krkic is easily a bigger talent than Pato. Pato is getting all this hype because he is Brazilian. Krkic on the other hand looks twice as promising as this guy. And Barca haven't paid a dime for any of these kids...

I'm not saying Pato is crap, but he is just another talented kid who is being dangerously hyped. And it's not like we have the jewel of young talents. IMO Barca have better ones. Looking at our team and its lack of pace and all those old players, we really needed some quality signings this season. And I keep hearing this thing about the team that just won the Champions League. You know, technically, saving your energy and players to only play good in the latter stages of CL and playing like crap with no energy and desire in other games doesn't count as success to me. We need a deep and healthy squad with determination and desire to win every single game. Whether it's Serie A or Champions League.

Now Pato is not even available to us until January and he is too young to really make a big difference. Because it's really not about how much technique you have. Look at Gourcuff, he is technically superior to most of our players but he is finding it hard to establish himself in the first team.

All in all, with the squad we have, it's only a matter of time until we run into serious problems and midway through the season we will find it hard to keep up and eventually will have to sacrifice competition after competition to help us recharge.


Please share your two cents.

This post has been edited by pKillerMax: Aug 6 2007, 10:46 PM

[kurtsimonw]

(IMG:http://qsmile.com/qsimages/175.gif) O my god! You mean being the oldest competition makes the FA Cup also the most prestigious?! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Well, if there were 200 countries, people of 199 of them would think otherwise! CL is definitely the greatest and most prestigious competition after the World Cup. no question about that.

More than likely. But I'd rather Villa win the FA Cup than England win the World Cup.

Not to unnecessarily dredge up a tragedy, but I wonder if the stress that is placed on the FA Cup has any connection with the fact that English teams were banned from European competition for five years.

That may well be the case for other people. I was only about a year old when that happened, so it has no bearing for me. It's been big since alot further back than the late 80s as far as I know.

Same point with the Champions League  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)   How can it be called the best in the world when only European teams can take part in it?!!!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I think the European Cup was a great Cup, probably bigger than the FA Cup. But the Champions League? It doesn't even make sense. How is a team that finishes 4th be a Champion? Surely it should just be the league winners that enter, like the old European Cup.

Nope, they can't be excused, especially for that, English fans are extremelly dangerous unfortunately, that will give you a piece of what it's like to live here for people like Kurt and myself 


I think Kurt meant and I certainly meant it's the biggest 'national' trophy in the world, I don't know of any other national cup that seems to be played out with so much importance as the FA Cup...

They're not that bad.. Only when the football's on. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Well put it this way. A few thousand teams care about the FA Cup. And what, about 50 care about the Champions League? And even 4 of those that enter the Champions League still keep an eye on the FA Cup. The Champions League to me lost 99% of it's greatness when they decided to let the whole league enter it. If it was the winners of the domestic Cup and the League, fair enough. But why do 2nd, 3rd and 4th get to enter? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Aug 14 2007, 07:20 PM

[bigmacmtl]

More than likely. But I'd rather Villa win the FA Cup than England win the World Cup.
That may well be the case for other people. I was only about a year old when that happened, so it has no bearing for me. It's been big since alot further back than the late 80s as far as I know.
I think the European Cup was a great Cup, probably bigger than the FA Cup. But the Champions League? It doesn't even make sense. How is a team that finishes 4th be a Champion? Surely it should just be the league winners that enter, like the old European Cup.
They're not that bad.. Only when the football's on.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Well put it this way. A few thousand teams care about the FA Cup. And what, about 50 care about the Champions League? And even 4 of those that enter the Champions League still keep an eye on the FA Cup. The Champions League to me lost 99% of it's greatness when they decided to let the whole league enter it. If it was the winners of the domestic Cup and the League, fair enough. But why do 2nd, 3rd and 4th get to enter?  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

because it's a club competition of all the best clubs in europe, the 3rd or 4th team in italy, spain or england are more often than not stronger than lets say the 1st or 2nd played team in hungary, or estonia serbia... and in adition the vast majority of the worlds best players play in europe. it makes more sense to give priority to the bigger hence stronger leagues because it increases the level of play of the competition.

This post has been edited by bigmacmtl: Aug 15 2007, 01:43 AM