[KillerMax]

You know, I'm really not that excited about all this hype around Pato. He is getting too much praise for so little he has done. And we have allegedly paid 22m Euros form him. That's a lot of money for someone who could well turn out to be just an average player at Milan. Just the way our official website is hyping this signing like it's the greatest thing that has ever happened in the World of football gets me all bored. We bought a 17 year old kid with braces and we call our summer signings over?

First of all that's too much unnecessary pressure on the kid.

Second of all, look at Barca's squad for god sake. They have the best young player in the World in Messi. And then they have Krkic and Dos Santos. I haven't seen much from Santos, but Krkic is easily a bigger talent than Pato. Pato is getting all this hype because he is Brazilian. Krkic on the other hand looks twice as promising as this guy. And Barca haven't paid a dime for any of these kids...

I'm not saying Pato is crap, but he is just another talented kid who is being dangerously hyped. And it's not like we have the jewel of young talents. IMO Barca have better ones. Looking at our team and its lack of pace and all those old players, we really needed some quality signings this season. And I keep hearing this thing about the team that just won the Champions League. You know, technically, saving your energy and players to only play good in the latter stages of CL and playing like crap with no energy and desire in other games doesn't count as success to me. We need a deep and healthy squad with determination and desire to win every single game. Whether it's Serie A or Champions League.

Now Pato is not even available to us until January and he is too young to really make a big difference. Because it's really not about how much technique you have. Look at Gourcuff, he is technically superior to most of our players but he is finding it hard to establish himself in the first team.

All in all, with the squad we have, it's only a matter of time until we run into serious problems and midway through the season we will find it hard to keep up and eventually will have to sacrifice competition after competition to help us recharge.


Please share your two cents.

This post has been edited by pKillerMax: Aug 6 2007, 10:46 PM

[kurtsimonw]

People seem to think being European Champions solves all of our problems and means we are the best.

Get real! Serie A and The Premier League are much harder to win than the Champions League. Look at the finalists in recent years. Milan, Liverpool, Arsenal, Monaco. No disrespect to any of them, but they're not even the top teams domestically.

Now consider this. Chelsea won both domestic cups, finished in the top 2 the previous 3 years, made 2 Champions League semi Finals - They compete in 4 competitions and still do well. Now look at Milan. We don't even think of the Coppa, we don't compete in Serie A so the CL is the only thing we have left. So yes, we should do well in it. Even Liverpool do well in more than just one competition.

Start looking at things realistically as opposed to thinking Pato is the next coming that will save all our problems, he won't.

[Rossoneri7]

These avergae players are only European champions on the paper. I don't want to say anything bad about them as you're right: They play with a lot of heart for Milan, but the "true" european champions are Seedorf, Pippo, Pirlo....and above all Kaká.
We have a very strong team...I agree. But Dida the best goalie in the world? Come on...you're heavily heavily biased. You have to agree that at least Gigi is better than Dida. The Brazilian is a very good keeper, but IMO his class is declining year by year.

Don't get me wrong. I don't want stars like Diego and others on our bench. That'd be nuts. But how about a player like Maresca? And how about some promising young players? We really need a good CB as Maldini won't play too many matches next year I believe.
And I'm not saying we can't win anything next season. Last summer I was one of the few people thinking of winning the CL. We can do that again of course...and we can even win the Scudetto, but Inter has much better chances to win the league (as they have more quality players) as other teams have much better chances to win the CL.

We do have young players on our bench; Gila, Gourcuff, Pato ..

I think the club is working on finding a replacement for our aging defense (which proved once again that it is the best in the world) ... So that shouldn't be an issue of concern (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Dida .. Yeah, I'm very biased. But u got to hand it to him, he was the better goalkeeper in 03 (Old Trafford)

People seem to think being European Champions solves all of our problems and means we are the best.

Get real! Serie A and The Premier League are much harder to win than the Champions League. Look at the finalists in recent years. Milan, Liverpool, Arsenal, Monaco. No disrespect to any of them, but they're not even the top teams domestically.

Now consider this. Chelsea won both domestic cups, finished in the top 2 the previous 3 years, made 2 Champions League semi Finals - They compete in 4 competitions and still do well. Now look at Milan. We don't even think of the Coppa, we don't compete in Serie A so the CL is the only thing we have left. So yes, we should do well in it. Even Liverpool do well in more than just one competition.

Start looking at things realistically as opposed to thinking Pato is the next coming that will save all our problems, he won't.

Who said being European Champion solves all of our problems ?! The men on the field solve our problems (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) .. But we are the best (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif) In fact we are ranked #1 in Europe. We are the most decorated club on the international front.

Then who said that Milan don't compete on several fronts .. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) You probably missed Milan's last 3 seasons before this one (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Pato is a kid !! 17 yr old kid ! There is nothing more to it.

Chelsea ?! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Since when did Chelsea become a reference point when comparing top European teams (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Madrid, Barca, Milan, Juve .. These are the clubs u should compare (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Liverpool ?! The last time they won the league was in the 90s (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Look Kurt ... I think AC Milan is the top club in Europe, period. Therefor I am convinced that no matter what team we have, we will always prevail! As we saw in Athena. So, don't get the wrong idea (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[LaPalma]

We do have young players on our bench; Gila, Gourcuff, Pato ..

I think the club is working on finding a replacement for our aging defense (which proved once again that it is the best in the world) ... So that shouldn't be an issue of concern (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Dida .. Yeah, I'm very biased. But u got to hand it to him, he was the better goalkeeper in 03 (Old Trafford)

Well....as you didn't say anything else I assume you agree with me, that our subs don't have much quality. Plus, Gila is not a young player anymore....he's 25!

About that "Exeter thing". In Germany we Have the DFB Pokal which is very similar to the FA Cup, which teams of the 4th or sometimes even 5th League entering the main round. I think it's a great thing as football as a sport needs more than top teams. The base for the popularity of this sport is not the big stars, but the many players in the lower leagues who do the best PR for football. Without this leagues there would be no top team as well. These clubs deserve the chance to play against the big german teams like Bayern Bremen, Schalke etc. And don't know a person that didn't cheer for St.Pauli in 2006 (third league team, still a very popular club in Germany) when they made it to the semis and almost won against Bayern? That's one of the great storys in football. Sometimes it's harder to play against such a highly motivated team which players play the game of their life than to play against some team in the CL.

Once again on our squad. Yes, we won the CL last season which really shows the passion of our players, and this triumphwas surely no accident as we totally deserved it. But this is a new season, and if we're honest with our selves we don't have the best squad. In the first half of the last season we've seen what our team looks like without the injured Rhino and an out-of form Pirlo.
And, yes you're right R7: Milan IS the most succesfull club of the last two decades, and of course more succesfull than Chelsea has been in the last 5 years. My only concern is, that this is about to change...