> How sad are we?, A quick analysis of the season ahead.

 
KillerMax
post Aug 6 2007, 10:42 PM
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You know, I'm really not that excited about all this hype around Pato. He is getting too much praise for so little he has done. And we have allegedly paid 22m Euros form him. That's a lot of money for someone who could well turn out to be just an average player at Milan. Just the way our official website is hyping this signing like it's the greatest thing that has ever happened in the World of football gets me all bored. We bought a 17 year old kid with braces and we call our summer signings over?

First of all that's too much unnecessary pressure on the kid.

Second of all, look at Barca's squad for god sake. They have the best young player in the World in Messi. And then they have Krkic and Dos Santos. I haven't seen much from Santos, but Krkic is easily a bigger talent than Pato. Pato is getting all this hype because he is Brazilian. Krkic on the other hand looks twice as promising as this guy. And Barca haven't paid a dime for any of these kids...

I'm not saying Pato is crap, but he is just another talented kid who is being dangerously hyped. And it's not like we have the jewel of young talents. IMO Barca have better ones. Looking at our team and its lack of pace and all those old players, we really needed some quality signings this season. And I keep hearing this thing about the team that just won the Champions League. You know, technically, saving your energy and players to only play good in the latter stages of CL and playing like crap with no energy and desire in other games doesn't count as success to me. We need a deep and healthy squad with determination and desire to win every single game. Whether it's Serie A or Champions League.

Now Pato is not even available to us until January and he is too young to really make a big difference. Because it's really not about how much technique you have. Look at Gourcuff, he is technically superior to most of our players but he is finding it hard to establish himself in the first team.

All in all, with the squad we have, it's only a matter of time until we run into serious problems and midway through the season we will find it hard to keep up and eventually will have to sacrifice competition after competition to help us recharge.


Please share your two cents.

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Rossoneri7
post Aug 10 2007, 01:12 AM
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If the EPL is your reference point to football .. Then you should know that the CL trophy is worth 20 FA cups and 1000 League cups. It is a merit of recognition amongst the elite of the footballing world. It is an achievement Milan have accomplished 7 times now. I think Milan is a very respectable club. A prestigious club that always has this aura of victory around it. Something all three of the EPL clubs, whom finished 1st, 2nd, and 3rd in the EPL respectively, all didn't have the chance to match the class of AC Milan (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif) And keep in mind, those 3 teams were hyped up so much .. because of the quality and depth they have in their teams.

AC Milan played with this very squad and look what it accomplished.


@Brilliant .. I meant that the EPL teams are hyped up too much. With all do respect to Liverpool, I don't think that 5th CL trophy that they won was theirs, it was ours (the whole world knows it !). So to be honest; comparing our 7 trophies and Madrid's 9 trophies .. Well, Liverpool with 4 (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ... And in general, I am no fan of things that are hyped up .. So the EPL in particular I don't like.
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post Aug 10 2007, 01:20 AM
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If the EPL is your reference point to football .. Then you should know that the CL trophy is worth 20 FA cups and 1000 League cups.

To a foreigner? Yes. To me? The FA Cup is the most prestigious trophy in the football World, by a long distance. As a player, I'd have that over the Champions League any day. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) It existed long before the Champions League, or any none-English club for that matter.

The reason I caompare to EPL teams is because I'm English, what do you think I watch th most? What do you think I know more about? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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Something all three of the EPL clubs, whom finished 1st, 2nd, and 3rd in the EPL respectively, all didn't have the chance to match the class of AC Milan

As I mentioned before. Milan were in one competition. Chelsea, Liverpool and United were in 3/4. Their squad was tired. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


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@Brilliant .. I meant that the EPL teams are hyped up too much. With all do respect to Liverpool, I don't think that 5th CL trophy that they won was theirs, it was ours

And the 7th that we won wasn't ours, it was theirs. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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