> Serie A - Week 9 to 11 - Genoa to Juve vs Milan, Date: 25/10/17 Time: 20:45 CET

 
han2503
post Oct 22 2017, 08:29 AM
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This will most likely be the decisive match for Montella, not getting the 3 points here will most likely cost him is job, and I have to say, that from a long-term perspective, that would be the better outcome for us
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post Oct 22 2017, 04:59 PM
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FT 0-0. Four games without a win for Montella. I think its time we part ways. He is a good coach, but he simply doesn't have the tactical wherewithal or the understanding of the team. Montella looked really well last year with the Fiat of the team but now that we have upgraded and given him a Mercedes he looks lost and has figuratively crashed it into a wall.

Bring in someone new, at least that kind of a change will spark the team and maybe right the ship for us.

On another note, the announcer in my stream (English) had mentioned how much more comfortable Romag looks when playing in a back 4 and I definitely agree. He is our most physically gifted defender IMO and he looked good (along with Zaps!) out there today. That being said, it looks like Bonucci has definitely lost a step and he needs to regain some confidence and I am floored at how bad Biglia has been for us. I say we trot out the Christmas tree from the days of old Milan. Push Bonucci into either the Pirlo or Gattuso role which should give more freedom to Kessie and Biglia.

The former looks much better going forward but is atm being asked to be a distributor, destroyer, and offensive force. I think he can become a great player but he needs to be given the freedom to do those things. When he was playing at Atalanta he wasn't the anchor, he was a box crashing shuttler with great physicality which I think this team seriously needs based on the inability to score goals and get consistent pressure from our forwards. I think Silva should be playing most if not all of the games as the SS. Let Hakan and Bona fight it out for the other playmaker spot and switch between Cutrone and Kalinic for the prima punta. I know I have suggested this plan before but I think it would work if we tried something like this:

---------------------------------Donna-----------------------------------
----Calabria/Abate --Romag---------Mussachio----------RR-----------
---------------------------Bonucci/Biglia------Kessie/Biglia/ Loca------
-------------Suso/Kessie-------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------Jack/ Hakan----------------------
-----------------------Silva/Suso/Hakan---------------------------------
--------------------------------Cutro/Kalinic-----------------------------

Down that right side, there would be less emphasis on pushing the FB forward, because you have Suso dropping deep to play the wing and generate some steam. I think Kessie can also play down this side when we are looking for a more balanced midfield approach. Silva is good in the build-up play, and he has that instinct to create something. Him playing the 1-2 game with Suso and opening up the oppositions left wing can spring crosses or lead to some mismatches working the inside.

Down the left, the main attacking pressure would come from RR delivering early crosses, and working that left wing with Jack ideally or Hakan who both favor that side of the field.

Bonucci at this point is a better long passer than Biglia who seems to have no creativity whatsoever and has really looked like **** from that anchor spot. He doesn't kill attacks and he definitely doesn't start them. I would rather have a guy that is going to do one or the other really well than do both jobs insignificantly. Bonucci is the anti-Pirlo a defensive player who can play the long ball but he is a strong stopper. He is good in the air and he can add some steel to a dull midfield. This gives us the opportunity to add creative players around him without sacrificing defensively.

The two out- and -out strikers we have are essentially poachers. Kalinic is more dangerous with crosses whipped in, while Cutro is the better player at building up and moving in those small spaces.

In defense:

When teams try to counter, if we are pushed up the wings with RR for example, Romag shifts over to put pressure initially and Bonucci picks up the midfield runner. This leaves Kessie or Biglia, whoever is playing in that left-central mid spot to clog up the top of the box and the wingback to track back and either pressure down the wing with the pulled CB or to track a late runner.

I know that Suso doesn't help much defensively but when we counter with him coming to the edge of the box we generally look dangerous. He would be given the duty of kick-starting counter attacks by either dumping the ball inside to the playmakers or playing it long to the hold up prima punta.
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- han2503   Serie A - Week 9 to 11 - Genoa to Juve vs Milan   Oct 22 2017, 08:29 AM
- - han2503   Sky's latest on Milan's XI vs. Genoa: Gigi...   Oct 22 2017, 08:35 AM
- - X-Offender   Confirmed. Why Zapata and Rodriguez in defense, th...   Oct 22 2017, 01:45 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 22 2017, 01...   Oct 22 2017, 02:04 PM
- - X-Offender   Bonucci commemorating his brilliant season thus fa...   Oct 22 2017, 02:52 PM
- - maldini03   I missed the first half but caught a quick highlig...   Oct 22 2017, 03:05 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (maldini03 @ Oct 22 2017, 03:05 PM)...   Oct 22 2017, 03:08 PM
- - maldini03   Yeah to me it didn't seem like a malicious elb...   Oct 22 2017, 03:18 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (maldini03 @ Oct 22 2017, 03:18 PM)...   Oct 22 2017, 03:29 PM
|- - d'Arc.LP   QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 22 2017, 05:29 PM) T...   Oct 22 2017, 03:40 PM
- - maldini03   Oh, of course, I am not blaming the ref for the fa...   Oct 22 2017, 03:39 PM
- - maldini03   I feel like the team just realized that Suso is ou...   Oct 22 2017, 03:44 PM
- - han2503   If Montella isn't sacked after this, I'll ...   Oct 22 2017, 03:59 PM
- - X-Offender   4-2-3-1. I've been saying it from day one. Onl...   Oct 22 2017, 10:39 PM
|- - Jack Sparrow   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 23 2017, 05...   Oct 23 2017, 10:52 AM
- - Fishdoll   Well, the stories have been swirling around since ...   Oct 23 2017, 08:17 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Who are the old guys? Bonaventura and?   Oct 23 2017, 10:11 PM
- - Fishdoll   Jack + Gigio + Montolivo . Abate, the other Mino R...   Oct 24 2017, 11:51 AM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Oct 24 2017, 11:51 AM) ...   Oct 24 2017, 06:29 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Hmh, I'm not sure what to think. Maybe this go...   Oct 24 2017, 11:53 AM
- - Fishdoll   I don't know if Mino's orchestrating it. W...   Oct 24 2017, 06:13 PM
- - han2503   Let's keep all Chievo talk here Anyway, I can...   Oct 24 2017, 08:27 PM
- - X-Offender   Donnarumma; Musacchio, Romagnoli, Rodriguez; Calab...   Oct 25 2017, 10:15 AM
|- - Jack Sparrow   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 25 2017, 04...   Oct 25 2017, 02:10 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 25 2017, 02:10 ...   Oct 25 2017, 04:31 PM
- - Rossoneri7   This has to be the game that changes our fortunes,...   Oct 25 2017, 03:36 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   I'm not sure what to think. We should have alr...   Oct 25 2017, 06:34 PM
|- - Jack Sparrow   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 26 2017, 01:0...   Oct 25 2017, 07:33 PM
- - han2503   The only way we can score apparently... Through a ...   Oct 25 2017, 08:23 PM
- - Rossoneri7   Stream?   Oct 25 2017, 08:25 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 25 2017, 08:25 PM...   Oct 25 2017, 08:30 PM
- - Rossoneri7   They dont work for me, but good to know the team a...   Oct 25 2017, 08:40 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 25 2017, 08:40 PM...   Oct 25 2017, 08:44 PM
- - Rossoneri7   Yup that works .. thanks   Oct 25 2017, 08:48 PM
- - han2503   Decent game. I think Chievo being so bad played a ...   Oct 25 2017, 09:38 PM
- - Rossoneri7   Poor Calabria   Oct 25 2017, 09:43 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   What happened?   Oct 25 2017, 10:40 PM
- - Rossoneri7   Was very bad, i wish we had lost than watching him...   Oct 26 2017, 06:09 AM
- - Fillipo Simone   RE: Serie A - Week 9 to 11 - Genoa to Juve vs Milan   Oct 26 2017, 08:20 AM
- - Fillipo Simone   Oh, and Han, one side note. Perhaps in the future ...   Oct 26 2017, 08:22 AM
- - Jack Sparrow   I didn't watch the match at all. Just twitter ...   Oct 26 2017, 08:49 AM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 26 2017, 08:2...   Oct 26 2017, 08:10 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 26 2017, 08:10 PM) N...   Oct 27 2017, 10:52 AM
- - X-Offender   As for the Juve game, the probable formation accor...   Oct 27 2017, 10:55 AM
- - han2503   We look good so far   Oct 28 2017, 05:10 PM
- - Rossoneri7   Wopsy   Oct 28 2017, 05:25 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   Why him of all people!! He's been a j...   Oct 28 2017, 05:36 PM
- - han2503   Isn't it strange that Borini has turned into o...   Oct 28 2017, 05:39 PM
- - han2503   So unlucky! Off the post from Kalinic then cle...   Oct 28 2017, 05:50 PM
- - han2503   Scratch what I said above, we completely bombed in...   Oct 28 2017, 07:03 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   He needs to go, it's that simple.   Oct 28 2017, 07:18 PM
- - Rossoneri7   Juventus are a strong side, Milan played well but ...   Oct 28 2017, 08:12 PM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 28 2017, 10:12 PM...   Oct 28 2017, 08:18 PM
|- - Rossoneri7   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 28 2017, 11:1...   Oct 28 2017, 10:13 PM
|- - d'Arc.LP   QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 29 2017, 12:13 AM...   Oct 29 2017, 09:31 AM
- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 27 2017, 12...   Oct 28 2017, 08:15 PM
- - X-Offender   How is it possible that Montella hasn’t been sac...   Oct 29 2017, 01:05 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 29 2017, 12:13 AM...   Oct 29 2017, 03:28 PM
|- - milanbuf88   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 29 2017, 11:2...   Oct 29 2017, 05:55 PM
- - han2503   Yes, they obviously never had a plan B should Mont...   Oct 29 2017, 05:11 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   I think we've been playing better the past few...   Oct 30 2017, 01:15 PM
|- - d'Arc.LP   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 30 2017, 03:15 ...   Oct 30 2017, 02:13 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 30 2017, 03:15 ...   Oct 30 2017, 05:30 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 30 2017, 05:3...   Nov 1 2017, 07:35 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Another pathetic performance against a much weaker...   Nov 3 2017, 09:20 AM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 3 2017, 09:20...   Nov 4 2017, 08:03 AM
- - Rossoneri7   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 3 2017, 12:20...   Nov 4 2017, 11:11 AM


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