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post Aug 24 2016, 07:46 PM
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Our first real test. Let's see how we'll be able to cope.
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Fillipo Simone
post Aug 30 2016, 09:41 AM
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Yes, we tried the 4-4-2 last season - and it didn't completely fail us, yes? Because the 4-3-3 has also limitations and in the long run I think it won't prove much better/effective. With the 4-4-2 last season Milan had at least games where we dominated and played really good. The first two matches this season tell me that we'll once again struggle to achieve domination and a cohesive unit. More importantly, I don't understand why we should play the 4-3-3, because it emphasizes the exact weak spots we have in our team: midfield and wings. This makes our team vulnerable. Napoli managed to capitalize on these points; other teams will do that as well. The defense per se isn't the main issue, it was the midfield and the completely inactive/not dangerous wings. So why would we play 4-3-3? What's the pro argument here again?

As for Montolivo, Han, at this point I'm open to try anyone, Pašalić, Locatelli, Sosa... Anyone. I don't think they can get much worse then Montolivo, but maybe better in some basic elements Monto isn't capable of doing any more?
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post Aug 30 2016, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 30 2016, 09:41 AM) *
Yes, we tried the 4-4-2 last season - and it didn't completely fail us, yes? Because the 4-3-3 has also limitations and in the long run I think it won't prove much better/effective. With the 4-4-2 last season Milan had at least games where we dominated and played really good. The first two matches this season tell me that we'll once again struggle to achieve domination and a cohesive unit. More importantly, I don't understand why we should play the 4-3-3, because it emphasizes the exact weak spots we have in our team: midfield and wings. This makes our team vulnerable. Napoli managed to capitalize on these points; other teams will do that as well. The defense per se isn't the main issue, it was the midfield and the completely inactive/not dangerous wings. So why would we play 4-3-3? What's the pro argument here again?

As for Montolivo, Han, at this point I'm open to try anyone, Pa�alić, Locatelli, Sosa... Anyone. I don't think they can get much worse then Montolivo, but maybe better in some basic elements Monto isn't capable of doing any more?

I meant that using the 4-4-2 we struggled to produce chances last season. Obviously we don't know how Montella would implement it differently to how Miha did, so it could work out differently. But with the way we're conceding goals, I wouldn't like to see us struggle to score as well on top of that

Anyway, we'll have to see. Montella could be reluctant to choose such a formation.

As for Monto, you're correct, but I don't think using either Poli or Pasalic would solve any of our problems. With Poli at least I'm pretty sure of this as he simply runs around like a headdless chicken for around 60 minutes then he runs out of steam and becomes an even bigger liability than he was when the game started.
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- han2503   Serie A - Week 2 - Napoli - Milan   Aug 24 2016, 07:46 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   A draw please!   Aug 25 2016, 07:47 AM
- - d'Arc.LP   Considering that Napoli lost their last game and t...   Aug 25 2016, 09:17 AM
- - Jack Sparrow   Napoli are slow starters, so a draw is possible. B...   Aug 25 2016, 10:35 AM
- - d'Arc.LP   So, do you guys see Sosa starting or not ?   Aug 25 2016, 10:39 AM
- - X-Offender   QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Aug 25 2016, 09:17 ...   Aug 25 2016, 11:03 AM
|- - d'Arc.LP   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 25 2016, 01...   Aug 25 2016, 11:22 AM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Aug 25 2016, 11:22 ...   Aug 25 2016, 11:37 AM
- - d'Arc.LP   GdS: Probable lineups for Napoli vs Milan. https:...   Aug 26 2016, 08:50 AM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Aug 26 2016, 08:50 ...   Aug 26 2016, 09:05 AM
|- - d'Arc.LP   QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 26 2016, 11:05 AM) W...   Aug 26 2016, 09:45 AM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Aug 26 2016, 11:45 ...   Aug 27 2016, 06:06 PM
- - d'Arc.LP   Called up players vs Napoli: GKs: Donnarumma (99),...   Aug 26 2016, 01:24 PM
- - TheOgre   I realize it's a bit early, but I will need a ...   Aug 27 2016, 07:00 PM
- - William405   Napoli: Reina, Hysaj, Albiol, Koulibaly, Ghoulam; ...   Aug 27 2016, 07:25 PM
- - William405   I don't see anything special in this Napoli. I...   Aug 27 2016, 07:27 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Agreed. Other then maybe Hamšik, no special playe...   Aug 27 2016, 07:42 PM
- - maldini03   I like Allan and their wings are always dangerous....   Aug 27 2016, 07:44 PM
- - TheOgre   Any find a stream?   Aug 27 2016, 07:51 PM
- - William405   Nooooo.almost Abate!   Aug 27 2016, 07:58 PM
- - William405   http://cricfree.sc/watch/live/napoli-vs-ac...-live...   Aug 27 2016, 07:58 PM
|- - TheOgre   QUOTE (William405 @ Aug 27 2016, 01:58 PM...   Aug 27 2016, 08:04 PM
- - William405   Suso tearing it up.   Aug 27 2016, 08:00 PM
- - William405   1-0 Napoli.   Aug 27 2016, 08:10 PM
- - William405   2-0   Aug 27 2016, 08:26 PM
- - maldini03   Not good from us out there, we looked good early b...   Aug 27 2016, 08:27 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   I think it's save to say that Montolivo is a f...   Aug 27 2016, 08:43 PM
- - d'Arc.LP   NIAAAAAAAAANG !!!!   Aug 27 2016, 09:00 PM
- - TheOgre   Great goal Niang!   Aug 27 2016, 09:01 PM
- - d'Arc.LP   WHAT A GOAL SUUUUUUSOOOOO WOW WOW WOW 2-2   Aug 27 2016, 09:04 PM
- - TheOgre   SUSO! wow what a quick turnaround!   Aug 27 2016, 09:05 PM
- - TheOgre   Zero help for Donna   Aug 27 2016, 09:24 PM
- - TheOgre   Weak foul call to give Kucka the red   Aug 27 2016, 09:26 PM
- - maldini03   Clear penalty not given and two reds, Valeri is no...   Aug 27 2016, 09:40 PM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (maldini03 @ Aug 27 2016, 11:40 PM)...   Aug 27 2016, 09:47 PM
- - d'Arc.LP   Very stupid from Kucka and Niang there. Niang did ...   Aug 27 2016, 09:41 PM
- - han2503   I just tuned in because I went out tonight so I mi...   Aug 27 2016, 09:42 PM
- - maldini03   Still though the ref has been tossing yellows arou...   Aug 27 2016, 09:43 PM
- - maldini03   But he did let Romag off on that one which was a c...   Aug 27 2016, 09:45 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Romagnoli should have been sent out as well. What ...   Aug 27 2016, 09:45 PM
- - d'Arc.LP   A match to forget.   Aug 27 2016, 09:45 PM
- - X-Offender   Didn't watch but it's so disappointing aft...   Aug 27 2016, 09:46 PM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 27 2016, 11...   Aug 27 2016, 09:49 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 27 2016, 09:4...   Aug 27 2016, 09:51 PM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 27 2016, 11...   Aug 27 2016, 09:58 PM
- - han2503   Well that last goal was expected with 9 on the fie...   Aug 27 2016, 09:50 PM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 27 2016, 11:50 PM) A...   Aug 27 2016, 09:58 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 27 2016, 09:5...   Aug 27 2016, 10:04 PM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 28 2016, 12:04 AM) H...   Aug 27 2016, 10:08 PM
|- - d'Arc.LP   QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 28 2016, 12:04 AM) H...   Aug 27 2016, 10:12 PM
- - d'Arc.LP   Donnarumma clearly was our best player there, he h...   Aug 27 2016, 09:55 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Oh, and btw. De Sciglio switched back to Milan mod...   Aug 27 2016, 10:09 PM
- - han2503   Watching those highlights, the defending on Milik...   Aug 27 2016, 10:13 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 27 2016, 10:0...   Aug 27 2016, 10:22 PM
- - han2503   So trying to look at the bright side a bit. I gues...   Aug 27 2016, 10:26 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   It was a bad defeat because we equalized and fough...   Aug 28 2016, 07:05 AM
- - d'Arc.LP   Montella: "Maybe the Chinese sent the transfe...   Aug 28 2016, 08:55 AM
|- - Jack Sparrow   QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Aug 28 2016, 03:25 ...   Aug 28 2016, 09:33 AM
- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 28 2016, 12:22 AM) I...   Aug 28 2016, 11:48 AM
- - d'Arc.LP   Napoli vs Milan players' rating. Suso MOTM, Ku...   Aug 28 2016, 01:05 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   What has Suso done to be MoM? Apart from that goal...   Aug 28 2016, 01:13 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Aug 28 2016, 08:55 ...   Aug 28 2016, 03:15 PM
- - han2503   Montella has played with 3 at the back before righ...   Aug 28 2016, 03:22 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   I see why it would make sense, but it takes a lot ...   Aug 28 2016, 06:11 PM
- - maldini03   I think Bonaventura was absent yesterday but I tho...   Aug 28 2016, 06:42 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 28 2016, 05:22 PM) M...   Aug 28 2016, 07:18 PM
- - han2503   That being said, what type of formation/system do ...   Aug 28 2016, 08:20 PM
|- - d'Arc.LP   QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 28 2016, 10:20 PM) T...   Aug 29 2016, 11:37 AM
- - Fillipo Simone   I think we have a team that's wrong in one too...   Aug 28 2016, 09:25 PM
- - maldini03   I think you're right Fillipo, there are not re...   Aug 28 2016, 10:48 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Agreed on all accounts. Locatelli certainly cannot...   Aug 28 2016, 11:42 PM
|- - Forza Milan!   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 29 2016, 12:4...   Aug 29 2016, 03:40 AM
- - Fillipo Simone   Forcing how? What has he done?   Aug 29 2016, 08:33 AM
|- - William405   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 29 2016, 10:3...   Aug 29 2016, 01:53 PM
|- - Forza Milan!   QUOTE (William405 @ Aug 29 2016, 02:53 PM...   Aug 29 2016, 05:39 PM
- - maldini03   de Jong was always known for his rough tackles, it...   Aug 29 2016, 02:08 PM
- - X-Offender   I've always said we should play 4-4-2. Donnar...   Aug 29 2016, 07:52 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   We tried the 4-4-2 last season. I feel we struggle...   Aug 30 2016, 05:32 AM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 30 2016, 05:32 ...   Aug 30 2016, 09:11 AM
- - X-Offender   With 4-4-2 last season we played our best football...   Aug 30 2016, 06:41 PM


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