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Serie A - Week 3 - Inter - Milan, Date: 13/09/2015 Time: 20:45 CET |
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Sep 10 2015, 07:37 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 9 2015, 08:53 PM)  How did he look like a fool??? He was marking his man! Like I said, Maccarone did an amazing trick. Anyone, even Nesta or Thiago could have fallen for that. But Bertolacci was just walking when Saponara was running inside the box, and De Jong reacted late.
And what the hell does the leadership role have anything to do here? Did Zapata bunk the offside trap because of that? I wouldn't trust two slow and static CBs like Mexes and Alex together, but two fast and mobile ones like Zapata and Romagnoli is more than fine. They might not complement each other perfectly, but it's the best we can afford, and you're not gonna convince me otherwise. Sorry, but yes, he did. He could have done better. And an awesome trick from Maccarone? Come on now! Who said anything about Alex and Mexes playing together?? I said Alex should partner either one of Zapata or Romagnoli, because both need someone who can lead the line next to them, Romagnoli because of his inexperience and Zapata because that's just the way he is. And you can be as fast and mobile as you like but if there are positional errors and passing errors you can't recover from all of them simply because you're quick. Also, the thing with the offside trap I was talking about him not only not being able to be the reference point at the back for the others, but HE'S the one that's making these errors. Add in a young and inexperienced guy next to him and you'll have trouble at the back. And fyi, I'm not trying to convince you of anything! I'm simply stating my opinion that I think it's a mistake to go with both Zapata and Romagnoli and I think we should go with Alex and either one of those 2, simply because I think that would make a better pairing. I hope that I am worrying over nothing and they do well because Miha seems to be sticking with them for now, but I don't think that will be the case. Simple as that really, I'm not trying to get you to join my anti-Zapata cult like you and Danny are trying to make it out to be QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 10 2015, 01:42 AM)  Have to say I think X is onto something here.
With no Muntari, Bonera or the like to slaughter any more, Han needed (even if he didn't realise it) a new figure of contempt.
No one would claim that Zaps is Maldini, but the guy IS a fine defender even if his passing is occasionally loose. For sheer brute force defending he's rather good, as well as strong in the air and quick - helps for tracking back against counters.
Yes, he probably needs an alpha leader next to him to be at his best, but so what? Specifically speaking I'd argue he needs a foil, a player next to him with the attributes he lacks, like leadership and positional sense, or composure on the ball. But then Mexes sucks next to Alex and vice versa.
Defences are about the right two kinds of defender next to each other, if one is missing the other suddenly loses a great deal of their game.
But this, all this is getting away from the point: Zapata is absolutely the least of our concerns and will do a job if picked. Hopefully whoever else is picked does too, be it Ely, Romag, Mexes or Alex. Again, you're being ridiculous with your conspiracy theories with regards to how I feel about Zapata. If I needed a player to whine about there are plenty others to choose from in this team. Believe me! As I said a million times now, Zapata has flaws in his game that for me tend to be a bit of a stretch to overlook when thinking of someone who can be a starter for us. It's nothing personal but I just don't trust him and that's basically it really. Also, I already said that I'm fine with either him or Romagnoli starting, but not together as for me that is worrying. Again, this is just my opinion, and Miha will more than likely go for what you 2 are advocating, I just hope it doesn't go wrong for us. And one more thing, you're saying it yourself here in this post. For a proper pairing to really work the 2 CBs need to have all the attributes required of a top CB even if it not individually but as a pairing. It's why I think Mexes and Zapata worked so well together and I know for a fact it's why you think Alex and Zapata could also work well together. I think Romagnoli could be good next to Zapata as well, but his inexperience and Zapata's sometimes shaky defending and suicide passing could be a problem as unlike when he has Mexes or Alex next to him Romagnoli is not experienced enough to bail him out. And he could also be the one commiting the mistakes and Zapata is simply not the type of players who is there and usually well positioned to cover for unexpected occurences
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Sep 10 2015, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 10 2015, 07:37 AM)  Sorry, but yes, he did. He could have done better. And an awesome trick from Maccarone? Come on now! Anyone can make an awesome trick, it doesn't require you to be a world class player. You just don't want to admit that Zapata wasn't at fault there, or that at least he was the one at least at fault. QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 10 2015, 07:37 AM)  Who said anything about Alex and Mexes playing together??
I said Alex should partner either one of Zapata or Romagnoli, because both need someone who can lead the line next to them, Romagnoli because of his inexperience and Zapata because that's just the way he is.
And you can be as fast and mobile as you like but if there are positional errors and passing errors you can't recover from all of them simply because you're quick.
Also, the thing with the offside trap I was talking about him not only not being able to be the reference point at the back for the others, but HE'S the one that's making these errors. Add in a young and inexperienced guy next to him and you'll have trouble at the back.
And fyi, I'm not trying to convince you of anything! I'm simply stating my opinion that I think it's a mistake to go with both Zapata and Romagnoli and I think we should go with Alex and either one of those 2, simply because I think that would make a better pairing. I hope that I am worrying over nothing and they do well because Miha seems to be sticking with them for now, but I don't think that will be the case. Simple as that really, I'm not trying to get you to join my anti-Zapata cult like you and Danny are trying to make it out to be Do you hear yourself? You moan about Zapata as if he's the next Acerbi and yet you say you have nothing against him. Getting all technical and stuff just to make a point that doesn't exist. If Zapata plays alongside Mexes it's fine, but if he plays alongside Romagnoli then it's a disaster. Football is not a science, Han. Form and moments play a huge part. And playing a crappy Alex and a just recovered Mexes is way riskier than playing Zapata.
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han2503 Serie A - Week 3 - Inter - Milan Sep 8 2015, 09:57 AM Danny Seria A Form Guide:
Milan: LWL
Inter: WWW Sep 8 2015, 10:10 AM han2503 QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 8 2015, 10:10 AM) Seri... Sep 8 2015, 11:01 AM  Danny QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 8 2015, 11:01 AM) We... Sep 8 2015, 11:12 AM   han2503 QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 8 2015, 11:12 AM) I sa... Sep 8 2015, 01:15 PM Danny We don't have a best XI. We just have a least ... Sep 8 2015, 01:19 PM han2503 QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 8 2015, 01:19 PM) We d... Sep 8 2015, 01:35 PM  Danny QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 8 2015, 01:35 PM) Ok... Sep 8 2015, 01:47 PM   han2503 QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 8 2015, 01:47 PM) My g... Sep 8 2015, 01:55 PM han2503 Bertolacci has been ruled out for 3 weeks, and wil... Sep 8 2015, 03:25 PM Danny QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 8 2015, 03:25 PM) Be... Sep 8 2015, 03:27 PM X-Offender Inter probable line-up: Handanovic; Santon, Murill... Sep 8 2015, 03:54 PM d'Arc.LP QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 8 2015, 05:5... Sep 8 2015, 06:34 PM han2503 QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 8 2015, 03:27 PM) One ... Sep 8 2015, 05:26 PM X-Offender Alright, I admit, I put Zapata there myself cos th... Sep 8 2015, 06:11 PM Danny QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 8 2015, 06:1... Sep 8 2015, 08:30 PM han2503 QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 8 2015, 06:1... Sep 9 2015, 07:49 AM X-Offender Mediaset now confirm Zapata in defense. Sep 9 2015, 09:36 AM Danny QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 9 2015, 09:3... Sep 9 2015, 10:26 AM X-Offender It's between him and Ely. Mexes also started r... Sep 9 2015, 10:28 AM Danny Or it's Ely & Zaps. As opposed to 'bet... Sep 9 2015, 12:03 PM milanbuf88 QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 9 2015, 08:03 AM) Or i... Sep 9 2015, 12:49 PM  Danny QUOTE (milanbuf88 @ Sep 9 2015, 12:49 PM)... Sep 9 2015, 03:26 PM han2503 QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 9 2015, 12:03 PM) Or i... Sep 9 2015, 03:37 PM X-Offender Han is making Zapata worse than Acerbi. I guess no... Sep 9 2015, 03:40 PM han2503 QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 9 2015, 03:4... Sep 9 2015, 03:44 PM  X-Offender QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 9 2015, 03:44 PM) Na... Sep 9 2015, 04:09 PM   han2503 QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 9 2015, 04:0... Sep 9 2015, 04:56 PM    X-Offender QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 9 2015, 04:56 PM) Za... Sep 9 2015, 08:53 PM Danny Poor Zaps Sep 9 2015, 03:43 PM han2503 Also, may I just say, that I consistantly praise Z... Sep 9 2015, 03:47 PM Danny Poor Zaps Sep 9 2015, 07:28 PM Danny Have to say I think X is onto something here.
Wit... Sep 10 2015, 01:42 AM  han2503 QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 10 2015, 02... Sep 10 2015, 09:32 PM han2503 Anyway, we should move on as we're never going... Sep 10 2015, 07:39 AM Danny But remember, it's just me with the 'consp... Sep 10 2015, 02:49 PM X-Offender QUOTE My points about Zapata come from having watc... Sep 10 2015, 10:32 PM Danny QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 10 2015, 10... Sep 10 2015, 11:02 PM Danny In short, Han's talking shite. I defended Munt... Sep 10 2015, 10:58 PM han2503 I'm really done with this you're both acti... Sep 11 2015, 09:12 AM Danny Don't forget to slam the door. Sep 11 2015, 09:19 AM han2503 QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 11 2015, 09:19 AM) Don... Sep 11 2015, 11:08 AM Danny RE: Serie A - Week 3 - Inter - Milan Sep 11 2015, 01:24 PM Fillipo Simone I've recently checked and turns out that bar t... Sep 11 2015, 06:30 PM han2503 QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 11 2015, 06:3... Sep 11 2015, 10:48 PM  X-Offender QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 11 2015, 10:48 PM) S... Sep 11 2015, 10:50 PM   han2503 QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 11 2015, 10... Sep 11 2015, 11:05 PM han2503 I don't believe for a second that De Jong will... Sep 12 2015, 10:34 AM X-Offender Mediaset has Montolivo instead of Poli with De Jon... Sep 12 2015, 11:04 AM han2503 QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 12 2015, 11... Sep 12 2015, 11:06 AM X-Offender If Monto does play, I really hope he puts 100% in ... Sep 12 2015, 12:02 PM han2503 QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 12 2015, 12... Sep 12 2015, 01:19 PM Fillipo Simone QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 12 2015, 02... Sep 12 2015, 02:36 PM X-Offender Unfortunately. The most unworthy captain in Milan ... Sep 12 2015, 04:10 PM William405 QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 12 2015, 06... Sep 12 2015, 08:07 PM  han2503 QUOTE (William405 @ Sep 12 2015, 08:07 PM... Sep 12 2015, 08:22 PM han2503 btw, Miranda is a serious doubt for Inter. So that... Sep 12 2015, 10:15 PM Fillipo Simone Is he that important really? Sep 13 2015, 02:08 AM X-Offender My Inter friend says he's great. Sep 13 2015, 09:19 AM X-Offender Update: Diego Lopez; Abate, Zapata, Romagnoli, De ... Sep 13 2015, 09:23 AM Fillipo Simone Not Honda again Sep 13 2015, 09:57 AM X-Offender On the bright side, that's probably the most c... Sep 13 2015, 10:58 AM han2503 QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 13 2015, 02:0... Sep 13 2015, 12:59 PM X-Offender I agree. Very strange from Mihajlovic to experimen... Sep 13 2015, 01:37 PM han2503 QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 13 2015, 01... Sep 13 2015, 02:27 PM han2503 Official (4-3-1-2): D. Lopez; Abate, Zapata, Romag... Sep 13 2015, 06:58 PM Fillipo Simone No de Jong, really? Strange. Sep 13 2015, 07:21 PM han2503 QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 13 2015, 07:2... Sep 13 2015, 07:26 PM han2503 WHAT A CHANCE!! Sep 13 2015, 07:48 PM Forza Milan! So close ! Sep 13 2015, 07:49 PM han2503 Adriano should have scored there! Sep 13 2015, 07:49 PM han2503 WTF, why are all these chances falling to Adriano?... Sep 13 2015, 07:53 PM han2503 FFS Adriano, 3 very good opportunities so far... Sep 13 2015, 08:03 PM Forza Milan! That's three :-( Sep 13 2015, 08:03 PM han2503 This game is tailored for Balo if you ask me Sep 13 2015, 08:07 PM Forza Milan! So far, we seem to be holding our own. Inter doin... Sep 13 2015, 08:13 PM han2503 QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Sep 13 2015, 08... Sep 13 2015, 08:16 PM han2503 Honda our only player who's not really in this... Sep 13 2015, 08:27 PM Fillipo Simone Lopez saved our *** in this last second.
But ove... Sep 13 2015, 08:34 PM X-Offender Agreed, Honda is just useless. For a #10 he's ... Sep 13 2015, 08:35 PM han2503 QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 13 2015, 08:3... Sep 13 2015, 08:46 PM han2503 Sheva in the stands Sep 13 2015, 08:48 PM han2503 Monto looks like the guy who played for us in his ... Sep 13 2015, 08:53 PM han2503 Come on Lopez!! You know better than that
... Sep 13 2015, 08:54 PM han2503 Honda seriously p!ssing me off. Might as well ... Sep 13 2015, 08:56 PM TheOgre Bacca showing some class Sep 13 2015, 08:57 PM han2503 We seriously need to mark Guarin better on these s... Sep 13 2015, 08:59 PM han2503 NO! FFS! Sep 13 2015, 09:01 PM han2503 Just bring on Balo for Honda Sep 13 2015, 09:02 PM TheOgre QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 13 2015, 03:02 PM) J... Sep 13 2015, 09:03 PM CrazyMilanFan So much space Sep 13 2015, 09:03 PM han2503 For Bacca??
Seriously Miha??? Sep 13 2015, 09:05 PM TheOgre Balo for Bacca...
Should have been Honda Sep 13 2015, 09:05 PM han2503 Just take Honda off and bring on anyone else reall... Sep 13 2015, 09:09 PM X-Offender The lack of a top trequartista is blatantly obviou... Sep 13 2015, 09:11 PM TheOgre Lucky to not be a second yellow for Kucka Sep 13 2015, 09:13 PM TheOgre Honda is tripping over his own feet at every oppor... Sep 13 2015, 09:14 PM han2503 QUOTE (TheOgre @ Sep 13 2015, 09:14 PM) H... Sep 13 2015, 09:15 PM
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