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han2503
post Aug 8 2015, 01:01 PM
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All talk for next season's Serie A here

This is our fixture list btw

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post Aug 31 2015, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 30 2015, 09:31 PM) *
Milan target Baselli doing very well at the moment for Torino. Two goals and good performances overall.

That's what I've been talking about: you can have a less creative and more working oriented midfield but still produce chances and play well. Milan simply fails at this because of the players mentality.

You can't compare a big club with a team like Toro, everything is different, the way the team approaches games, the tactics, the system, etc.

Why does a player like Cerci excel at Toro but fails miserably at every top club he's gone to? Why do strikers like Gila, Matri, Di Vaio, Pazzini, Tavano, etc excel at their mid level clubs where service and opportunities are at a premium but are generally lacklustre at bigger clubs with better players behind them where they are given more to play off of?

Toro play a certain way, they are generally a counterattacking side. Meaning when they do attack they have more space to work in. At Milan we're trying to play a possession based system when we don't have the players for it. It's why Bertolacci for example looks seriously terrible, because he's not a good passer or a visionary on the ball. He's great at vertical runs into space and being the extra man in the box, but when it comes to possession football he's more of a liability for us.

Sure you're right, it has to do with mentality as well. But for me the major problem is that Silvio wants the team to play in a certain way when we don't have the players for it. His little mind that's stuck in the 80s still thinks that playing attractive football has all to do with the attack. But that's imo the least important factor in it. This is the guy who admires Pep and his past Barca side. How can you watch that team play and still think that midfield is not the most crucial department for any top side is beyond me.

And btw, we can thank Allegri for this idea of by-passing the midfield to score, because this has been going on since his first season with us, only back then we could punt the ball in the general direction of Ibra and he'd do the rest

QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 30 2015, 10:01 PM) *
Really?

Whole of last season:

Pogba: 9 goals, 6 assists, 83% passing accuracy.

Vidal: 8, 4, 84%

About the same - sell Pogba like Han said and get far more cash from, and I know few share this view, but the idiotic clubs who overate him.

I personally don't think it's an issue of overrating him, for me Pogba is one of the best young talents out there and at his age also one of the best in the world at what he does as well.

However, as I said, Juve will lose him anyway, it did not make sense to sell Vidal, one of their most important players, for so little when they could have probably made triple that for Pogba, who they will end up selling next summer anyway

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 30 2015, 11:53 PM) *
Maybe not 10 years, but why not 6-7? Kaká stayed with us for 7 seasons despite many lucrative offers. Same with Sheva.

Do you really have to ask that question? Fillipo answered it best. What top player in today's football wants Serie A over England or Spain, or heck even Germany when Bayern come calling
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- han2503   [IT] Serie A 2015-16   Aug 8 2015, 01:01 PM
- - han2503   Lazio look good against Juve in the Super Coppa, I...   Aug 8 2015, 01:57 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 8 2015, 12:57 PM) La...   Aug 8 2015, 03:06 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 8 2015, 03:06 PM) This...   Aug 8 2015, 04:03 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   We'll see.   Aug 8 2015, 03:43 PM
- - han2503   This is the new Serie A youtube page https://www.y...   Aug 22 2015, 08:10 AM
- - acid911   Thanks for the share, Han.   Aug 22 2015, 09:45 AM
- - X-Offender   Yeah, thanks for sharing.   Aug 22 2015, 12:21 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Good news, Allegri-mode is back on   Aug 23 2015, 06:58 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 23 2015, 06:5...   Aug 23 2015, 07:32 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Well, they lost to Udine at home and blew their 2 ...   Aug 23 2015, 08:16 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 23 2015, 08:1...   Aug 23 2015, 08:51 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Yep. Don't get me wrong, Juve played okay and ...   Aug 23 2015, 08:54 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 23 2015, 08:5...   Aug 23 2015, 09:40 PM
- - Danny   Allegri effect my backside! They totally domin...   Aug 24 2015, 11:27 AM
- - X-Offender   Juve are very close to signing Draxler. Yes, they...   Aug 27 2015, 10:34 PM
- - Danny   Perhaps, but in our defence they can attract bette...   Aug 27 2015, 10:38 PM
- - X-Offender   RE: [IT] Serie A 2015-16   Aug 27 2015, 10:48 PM
- - han2503   How are Roma not winning this??   Aug 30 2015, 06:17 PM
- - acid911   They are now. 1-0 up against the dozers.   Aug 30 2015, 06:36 PM
- - han2503   2-0 If I understood correctly, this could be the ...   Aug 30 2015, 06:40 PM
- - X-Offender   Juve were absolutely terrible bar the last 10 minu...   Aug 30 2015, 06:59 PM
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|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 30 2015, 07:01 PM) H...   Aug 30 2015, 07:13 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   That's why I said - Allegri-effect on   Aug 30 2015, 07:04 PM
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- - Fillipo Simone   Because things changed. Back then Italy was still ...   Aug 31 2015, 12:09 AM
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