[han2503]

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Role: Forward

Jersey: #22

Birth date: 23/07/1987

Birth place: Velletri (Roma)

Height: 180 cm

Weight: 78 kg

[han2503]

So 6 months is enough time for you to write Cerci off, while circa four and a half years of failure from SES and you still wanted him given chance after chance.

Ye can't make this sh*t up (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

6 months plus previous knowledge about him is enough. He's always been underwhelming for Italy when given the chance, has been terrible for us and failed at Roma, Fiorentina and Atletico. 1 good season at Toro to his name and that's it. I'd say that's enough.

4 years of failure for SES?

Granted, he only had those 6 months or so when he really did shine. But he's spent 2 of those years basically out injured. His first season he showed some real promise when coming on. Considering we had Ibra et al that first season and he was only considered a youth prospect that was mostly given time in Coppa games.

But yes, let's brand it as 4 years of failure...


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Style is already changing.

The display v Real was simply a different Milan to the one we suffered last season.

It didn't have stars, and only Niang shone individually, but the team unit was unlike anything we've seen in recent years.

We'll see if Cerci has a place in it.

We're still not a counter attacking side. We might be more physical, but it's pretty obvious that Miha is still going for a possession game where we continually look to dominate the play ourselves, rather than invite pressure and try to break. Which is the type of style Cerci thrives under

Currently watching the replay of the Real Madrid game, Cerci has so far been anonymous and every touch he has made has been too heavy. Just plain bad.

And he's playing the SS role, still looks very mediocre there as well.

Don't know what else needs to be said about him at this point, he's not even our player, so if it came down to it, I'd rather Suso/Niang/Adriano get the minutes ahead of him.

[Danny]

6 months plus previous knowledge about him is enough. He's always been underwhelming for Italy when given the chance, has been terrible for us and failed at Roma, Fiorentina and Atletico. 1 good season at Toro to his name and that's it. I'd say that's enough.

4 years of failure for SES?

Granted, he only had those 6 months or so when he really did shine. But he's spent 2 of those years basically out injured. His first season he showed some real promise when coming on. Considering we had Ibra et al that first season and he was only considered a youth prospect that was mostly given time in Coppa games.

But yes, let's brand it as 4 years of failure...


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Quit rolling your eyes every time you disagree. It's rude.

And yes, I will. Let's face it, if he was called Stephan El-Muntari you'd have written him off inside 6 weeks, never mind 6 months!

We're still not a counter attacking side. We might be more physical, but it's pretty obvious that Miha is still going for a possession game where we continually look to dominate the play ourselves, rather than invite pressure and try to break. Which is the type of style Cerci thrives under

Currently watching the replay of the Real Madrid game, Cerci has so far been anonymous and every touch he has made has been too heavy. Just plain bad.

And he's playing the SS role, still looks very mediocre there as well.

Don't know what else needs to be said about him at this point, he's not even our player, so if it came down to it, I'd rather Suso/Niang/Adriano get the minutes ahead of him.

Suso's not impressing me. I remain unconvinced by him. Niang was great yesterday though, he's continuing to mature.

And yes, Cerci was mediocre.

[han2503]

Quit rolling your eyes every time you disagree. It's rude.

And yes, I will. Let's face it, if he was called Stephan El-Muntari you'd have written him off inside 6 weeks, never mind 6 months!

I only roll them when the post deserves it, and yours did, sorry, but that's how I feel.

His name had absolutely nothing to do with it. SES showed promise in his first season and basically held us a-float on his own in his second season. His goals being instrumental to us getting into the CL when the rest of the team slept through those first 6 months of the season.

His last 2 seasons were injury plagued and he could never really get a decent run of consecutive games to regain form.

Saying he was a failure for 4 and a half years is ridiculous. Especially when you're deliberately discounting all the factors that lead to him not being productive.

Funny you bring up Muntari, one of the worst players to have played in our shirt in the past decade, and that's saying something considering all the fodder Galliani has managed to pick up over these past few years...

Suso's not impressing me. I remain unconvinced by him. Niang was great yesterday though, he's continuing to mature.

And yes, Cerci was mediocre.

Agreed on Suso. I think he'd be better if he's tried in midfield, he's not an AM imo. I think we should try loaning him to a Serie A side.

Niang was impressive, still got terrible aim though... And I don't foresee him getting a lot of time.

If Menez stays and Ibra comes I can't see where that would leave Niang in the pecking order, also considering we still need to offload Matri ASAP.

Cerci has always been mediocre in our shirt. The only time I remember him having a half decent game was in a Coppa match that I can't even remember who it was against atm

[Danny]

I only roll them when the post deserves it, and yours did, sorry, but that's how I feel.

Then from now on if you roll your eyes, expect no response from me. Sorry, but that's how I feel. Final warning.

His name had absolutely nothing to do with it. SES showed promise in his first season and basically held us a-float on his own in his second season.

Delusion. You know it, I know it. He had four good months. August to November. His goals won 10 points. Decent. But look where we were during this period. (IMG:http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ibZwCnL0EEc/UKDTr3IV3HI/AAAAAAAAAwI/xu7eVMEs518/s1600/up.jpg)

Worse than we finished last season.

His goals being instrumental to us getting into the CL when the rest of the team slept through those first 6 months of the season.

His last 2 seasons were injury plagued and he could never really get a decent run of consecutive games to regain form.

Saying he was a failure for 4 and a half years is ridiculous. Especially when you're deliberately discounting all the factors that lead to him not being productive.

'Stop calling him a failure, it wasn't his fault'.

That's what I call ridiculous. Whatever the reason, he DID fail. Be it injury, form, whatever. He was a waste of money.

Funny you bring up Muntari, one of the worst players to have played in our shirt in the past decade, and that's saying something considering all the fodder Galliani has managed to pick up over these past few years...

I used him as an example. To highlight your bias about SES.

Agreed on Suso. I think he'd be better if he's tried in midfield, he's not an AM imo. I think we should try loaning him to a Serie A side.

Who the hell was it who told me off about Suso? Who told me off for not rating him? I swear it was you and X!?

Niang was impressive, still got terrible aim though... And I don't foresee him getting a lot of time.

Miha seems to feel differently.

If Menez stays and Ibra comes I can't see where that would leave Niang in the pecking order, also considering we still need to offload Matri ASAP.

Cerci has always been mediocre in our shirt. The only time I remember him having a half decent game was in a Coppa match that I can't even remember who it was against atm

I give him 6 months to prove his worth. He has no excuses now.

[han2503]

Then from now on if you roll your eyes, expect no response from me. Sorry, but that's how I feel. Final warning.

So now I can't use the similies I want to make a point when I simply think you're being unreasonable about something?

You say I'm biased about SES? Take a look in the mirror pal...

Delusion. You know it, I know it. He had four good months. August to November. His goals won 10 points. Decent. But look where we were during this period. (IMG:http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ibZwCnL0EEc/UKDTr3IV3HI/AAAAAAAAAwI/xu7eVMEs518/s1600/up.jpg)

Worse than we finished last season.

Had it not been his goals that won us those points we would have never been in a position to make it to 3rd, it's not delusion, it's simple mathematics considering how we scraped through to third that season.

'Stop calling him a failure, it wasn't his fault'.

That's what I call ridiculous. Whatever the reason, he DID fail. Be it injury, form, whatever. He was a waste of money.

Had he been playing consistently and playing badly at that then you would be right, but no, considering the circumstances of his time with us, no, you can't call him a failure based on that

I used him as an example. To highlight your bias about SES.

It was a sh!tty example as how cool a player's name is has nothing to do with this

Who the hell was it who told me off about Suso? Who told me off for not rating him? I swear it was you and X!?

I said don't jump the gun about him as you were labelling him bad already. I also said I would like to see him go on loan countless times as well as I don't think he'll get the time with us to really prove what he can do. I think a season at a Serie A side like Genoa for example would do him a world of good. Somewhere where he would be a first choice and where he would be a focal point of the team.

Also, I didn't say I don't rate him now, just that he hasn't really shown much this pre-season (actually you said it, I agreed with it, can't you even take that one?). That's different from saying you don't rate him. There are a lot of players who haven't really shown much of anything this pre-season as well. But it's only just been 2 proper games so far, it's too early to say about any player imo

Miha seems to feel differently.

How's that?

It's pretty obvious Bacca and Adriano will be ahead, just because he started the last 2 games doesn't say much, Matri started one as well, same goes for Calabria and Ely, I don't think any of them will be starter either.

I mostly get the feeling that Miha is giving certain players more time so he could assess and give his recommendation to Galliani in terms of whether he wants them to stay/be sent on loan/sold

I give him 6 months to prove his worth. He has no excuses now.

Did he have any legitimate ones before?

[Danny]

So now I can't use the similies I want to make a point when I simply think you're being unreasonable about something?

You can do what you like. I just won't reply if I see that one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) it's bitchy and rude.

You say I'm biased about SES? Take a look in the mirror pal...

Damn right I am. He sucked for us (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Had it not been his goals that won us those points we would have never been in a position to make it to 3rd, it's not delusion, it's simple mathematics considering how we scraped through to third that season.

So...from 11th place in November thanks to his goals, and now you're giving him all the credit for the rest of the team finishing third despite the fact he barely scored any goals and lived on the wing during that time.

What mathematics are you adding from, exactly?

Had he been playing consistently and playing badly at that then you would be right, but no, considering the circumstances of his time with us, no, you can't call him a failure based on that

Told you this forum would turn into SESfannotfan.com (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

It was a sh!tty example as how cool a player's name is has nothing to do with this

You're right. It doesn't. I was highlighting his identity, not his name. Could easily have said Stephan El-Bonera. His surname isn't the point, his identity is. The fact you cut him slack after 4 years but never did with others who underperformed. In less time. Like Cerci.

I said don't jump the gun about him as you were labelling him bad already. I also said I would like to see him go on loan countless times as well as I don't think he'll get the time with us to really prove what he can do. I think a season at a Serie A side like Genoa for example would do him a world of good. Somewhere where he would be a first choice and where he would be a focal point of the team.

Actually said he has some talent but a diabolical attitude - reminding me of Menez, but not being as good with it. Funnily enough when he was actually more of a team player in the ICC his ability reduced to near-zero.

Also, I didn't say I don't rate him now, just that he hasn't really shown much this pre-season (actually you said it, I agreed with it, can't you even take that one?). That's different from saying you don't rate him. There are a lot of players who haven't really shown much of anything this pre-season as well. But it's only just been 2 proper games so far, it's too early to say about any player imo

But why would you judge a player on a weak pre-season given you dismiss friendlies?

That's contradictory?

And yes, I do take that one, but it's a paradox to your own logic. The one time you agree with me here seems to be violating your own principles, illogically.

How's that?

It's pretty obvious Bacca and Adriano will be ahead, just because he started the last 2 games doesn't say much, Matri started one as well, same goes for Calabria and Ely, I don't think any of them will be starter either.

I mostly get the feeling that Miha is giving certain players more time so he could assess and give his recommendation to Galliani in terms of whether he wants them to stay/be sent on loan/sold

http://www.calciomercato.com/news/milan-of...i-sinisa-654395

According CM, we did indeed reject a hard offer for Niang. I truly believe Miha sees him as a major part of the squad.

Did he have any legitimate ones before?

Yes, claimed Pippo wouldn't give him a run in games. Refused to start him more than twice. Which is true. So if he gets a run of five games under Miha that'll sort that one.