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Didn't compare him to Ronaldo.
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post Feb 21 2015, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Feb 21 2015, 12:19 PM) *
Didn't compare him to Ronaldo.

Saying that Ronaldo also tends to play for himself rather than the team is comparing them, even if it is unintentionally. But while one of them can pull it off, the other simply can't because he's just not that good.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 21 2015, 02:11 PM) *
Saying that Ronaldo also tends to play for himself rather than the team is comparing them, even if it is unintentionally.


No, it's giving an example of someone who plays for himself but still shines. Therefore disputing the idea that you have to be a team player to shine.

Not a comparison, an example.
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QUOTE (Danny @ Feb 21 2015, 03:17 PM) *
No, it's giving an example of someone who plays for himself but still shines. Therefore disputing the idea that you have to be a team player to shine.

Not a comparison, an example.

I think Menez comes off looking like an @ss 99% of the time instead of someone who shines imo. That's the major difference I see there with the example you gave.

Taraabt is a more appropriate example imo
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 21 2015, 03:56 PM) *
I think Menez comes off looking like an @ss 99% of the time instead of someone who shines imo. That's the major difference I see there with the example you gave.

Taraabt is a more appropriate example imo


I am merely saying though that is it possible to shine as an individual. And Ronaldo is a very good example. Taarabt is an example of a slightly inferior Menez - loads of skill but barely ever passes the ball and absolutely stinks as a team player. At least Menez has actually made a difference in matches now and then.
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QUOTE (Danny @ Feb 21 2015, 09:17 PM) *
I am merely saying though that is it possible to shine as an individual. And Ronaldo is a very good example. Taarabt is an example of a slightly inferior Menez - loads of skill but barely ever passes the ball and absolutely stinks as a team player. At least Menez has actually made a difference in matches now and then.

Yes of course that's true.

But I do believe that Menez would be 100% more efficient and important for the team if he were to actually play for the team rather than himself.

He get's into great positions, has the burst of pace to get him past players and has a very decent passing range, but most of the times he wastes these situations by going the solo route. Sure at times it pays off and we're ecstatic about it, but I'm sure we would be all just as (if not more) happy with him and his performances should he have scored half the amount of goals he has so far but assisted or was crucial in build up play for more goals for his team mates. And he had a lot of these opportunities this season. I guess that is my main gripe with him and mostly what many other Milan fans feel towards him
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- han2503   Serie A - Week 24 - Milan - Cesena   Feb 19 2015, 06:43 PM
- - Danny   Abbiati, Bonera, Rami, Bocchetti, Antonelli, Monto...   Feb 19 2015, 10:45 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ Feb 19 2015, 10:45 PM) Abb...   Feb 20 2015, 10:11 AM
- - Danny   Yeah pretty much Han. I mean actually from midfiel...   Feb 20 2015, 01:27 PM
- - X-Offender   Mediaset update: 4-3-1-2: Abbiati; Bonera, Alex, ...   Feb 20 2015, 01:29 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 20 2015, 12...   Feb 20 2015, 02:24 PM
- - X-Offender   Well, Cerci thrived at Torino as SS behind Immobil...   Feb 20 2015, 04:28 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 20 2015, 03...   Feb 20 2015, 04:54 PM
- - X-Offender   Oh, don't get me wrong, I still think he's...   Feb 20 2015, 06:54 PM
- - Danny   Ronaldo isn't a true team player but he's ...   Feb 20 2015, 07:29 PM
|- - milanbuf88   QUOTE (Danny @ Feb 20 2015, 03:29 PM) Ron...   Feb 21 2015, 01:52 AM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ Feb 20 2015, 07:29 PM) Ron...   Feb 21 2015, 11:18 AM
- - Danny   Didn't compare him to Ronaldo.   Feb 21 2015, 12:19 PM
- - X-Offender   Inzaghi JUST said at the pre-game press conference...   Feb 21 2015, 12:56 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 21 2015, 11...   Feb 21 2015, 02:08 PM
- - Danny   I am amongst them, but even I have seen, in the pa...   Feb 21 2015, 10:44 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ Feb 21 2015, 10:44 PM) I a...   Feb 22 2015, 10:23 AM
- - Fillipo Simone   How you guys still have the strength to discuss su...   Feb 22 2015, 12:09 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 22 2015, 11:0...   Feb 22 2015, 12:16 PM
- - Danny   Confirmed team as stated but with Bocchetti in Ale...   Feb 22 2015, 02:12 PM
|- - X-Offender   Ignore.   Feb 22 2015, 02:49 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ Feb 22 2015, 02:12 PM) Con...   Feb 22 2015, 03:03 PM
- - han2503   Poli was not offside there. Did he call it because...   Feb 22 2015, 03:05 PM
- - milanbuf88   Awful offsides call. Should be up 1-0.   Feb 22 2015, 03:06 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (milanbuf88 @ Feb 22 2015, 03:06 PM...   Feb 22 2015, 03:11 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Any streams available?   Feb 22 2015, 03:12 PM
|- - milanbuf88   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 22 2015, 11:1...   Feb 22 2015, 03:27 PM
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- - han2503   Bonaventura!!!!!   Feb 22 2015, 03:25 PM
- - milanbuf88   Bonnaventura!!!! Great shot!   Feb 22 2015, 03:25 PM
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|- - milanbuf88   QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 22 2015, 11:35 AM) Y...   Feb 22 2015, 03:39 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (milanbuf88 @ Feb 22 2015, 03:39 PM...   Feb 22 2015, 03:53 PM
|- - milanbuf88   QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 22 2015, 11:53 AM) I...   Feb 22 2015, 03:59 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 22 2015, 02:53 PM) I...   Feb 22 2015, 04:01 PM
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|- - milanbuf88   QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 22 2015, 11:52 AM) G...   Feb 22 2015, 03:56 PM
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- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ Feb 22 2015, 04:00 PM) 4: ...   Feb 22 2015, 04:12 PM
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- - milanbuf88   Why bring in Pazzini for Destro? Baffling sub.   Feb 22 2015, 04:25 PM
- - han2503   THIS is what's so frustrating about Menez!   Feb 22 2015, 04:33 PM
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- - milanbuf88   Goal Pazzini on the penalty 2-0!   Feb 22 2015, 04:52 PM
- - han2503   Is it just me or does it not even feel satisfying ...   Feb 22 2015, 04:58 PM
- - X-Offender   What to say, very underwhelming performance. We di...   Feb 22 2015, 04:59 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Against a poor Cesena? Hardly.   Feb 22 2015, 05:02 PM
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- - Fillipo Simone   Ehm, not doing them for the time. I think it got a...   Feb 22 2015, 05:17 PM
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- - X-Offender   You and Monto...   Feb 22 2015, 07:16 PM
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|- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 22 2015, 07...   Feb 22 2015, 07:47 PM
- - X-Offender   No Han, he was trash. For his role, he did absolut...   Feb 22 2015, 08:11 PM
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|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 22 2015, 08:26 PM) U...   Feb 22 2015, 08:35 PM
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|- - han2503   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 22 2015, 09:1...   Feb 22 2015, 11:07 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 22 2015, 11:07 PM) Y...   Feb 23 2015, 12:07 AM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 23 2015, 01:07 AM) I...   Feb 23 2015, 12:54 AM
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|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 24 2015, 06:17 PM) T...   Feb 24 2015, 07:20 PM
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