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Update: Diego Lopez; Bonera, Rami, Mexes, De Sciglio; Bonaventura, De Jong, Essien; Honda, Menez, El Shaarawy

Better defense, worse midfield. It's like a step forward should always be accompanied by a step backwards. Inzaghi's spell so far in a nutshell.
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post Nov 7 2014, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 7 2014, 06:48 PM) *
It's like a step forward should always be accompanied by a step backwards. Inzaghi's spell so far in a nutshell.


I'm losing patience with him. Mexes will have a disaster, I guarantee it. He, Rami and Bonera is the football defence equivalent of spontaneous combustion.

But yes, he makes one change we like, but has to accompany it with some c*ck up elsewhere.
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post Nov 7 2014, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Nov 7 2014, 10:07 PM) *
I'm losing patience with him. Mexes will have a disaster, I guarantee it. He, Rami and Bonera is the football defence equivalent of spontaneous combustion.

But yes, he makes one change we like, but has to accompany it with some c*ck up elsewhere.

I cannot agree with you about Mexes or Rami.

Yet you conveniently leave out Zapata who made 2 crucial errors just last week to cost us 2 goals.

Rami is an okay defender, I've always said this about him, nothing spectacular but isn't prone to making the kind of errors that either Zapata or Bonera make on occasion. He's stable enough, he won't pull off any miracles, but he's decent enough to do the job.

Zapata on the other hand has that more spectacular edge to him because he can pull off the great recovering tackle every now and then and his speed does help him a lot, but he is very prone to having that one blackout game where everything he does goes wrong. Add to that his suspect passing and I'd prefer the more stable if less spectacular player to him any day of the week.

But my main issue with both these 2 is that they need to be next to someone strong who can lead the line, otherwise they crumble.

You cannot say the same about Mexes. He is capable of leading the line, and like it or not, our best defensive runs throughout the last 2 seasons came when he was the first pick for the CB pairing. He did this both with Rami last season and the previous one with Zapata (when we had the best defensive record along with Juve from January through May). Mexes is a leader in defence, and no, I've never seen him once have a nightmare night ala Bonera or Zapata, not once in a Milan shirt has he fallen into those diabolical levels.

Am I saying he's perfect or World Class? Absolutely not, he has his faults and has made minor errors throughout his time with us because he does at times let his concentration slip, especially when we're comfortable. But if we're looking at our defenders, I'd say he's still our most naturally talented defender. Positioning, awareness, comfort on the ball, anticipation, he's still our best player in that area, and to leave him out when we're having so many problems in that position is criminal imo
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 7 2014, 09:23 PM) *
I cannot agree with you about Mexes or Rami.


Of course, you wh*re them off at every chance you get, so why should this time be any different?

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Yet you conveniently leave out Zapata who made 2 crucial errors just last week to cost us 2 goals.


I didn't conveniently 'leave out Zapata', I was reflecting on the 3 defenders selected - Bonera, Mexes and Rami.

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Rami is an okay defender, I've always said this about him, nothing spectacular but isn't prone to making the kind of errors that either Zapata or Bonera make on occasion. He's stable enough, he won't pull off any miracles, but he's decent enough to do the job.


Except when he isn't.

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Zapata on the other hand has that more spectacular edge to him because he can pull off the great recovering tackle every now and then and his speed does help him a lot, but he is very prone to having that one blackout game where everything he does goes wrong. Add to that his suspect passing and I'd prefer the more stable if less spectacular player to him any day of the week.


And here you are wanting stable while equally lobbying for the football defender equivalent of TNT, Philip Mexes.

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But my main issue with both these 2 is that they need to be next to someone strong who can lead the line, otherwise they crumble.

You cannot say the same about Mexes. He is capable of leading the line, and like it or not, our best defensive runs throughout the last 2 seasons came when he was the first pick for the CB pairing. He did this both with Rami last season and the previous one with Zapata (when we had the best defensive record along with Juve from January through May). Mexes is a leader in defence, and no, I've never seen him once have a nightmare night ala Bonera or Zapata, not once in a Milan shirt has he fallen into those diabolical levels.

Am I saying he's perfect or World Class? Absolutely not, he has his faults and has made minor errors throughout his time with us because he does at times let his concentration slip, especially when we're comfortable. But if we're looking at our defenders, I'd say he's still our most naturally talented defender. Positioning, awareness, comfort on the ball, anticipation, he's still our best player in that area, and to leave him out when we're having so many problems in that position is criminal imo


Han, please stop repeating your gushing praise of Mexes to me, I'm just not listening. If he has a great game (if selected) I'll praise him. If he has a stinker I'll criticise him.

But neither one will change my opinion overall so stop going on about it!
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- han2503   Serie A - Week 11 - Sampdoria - Milan   Nov 5 2014, 10:24 PM
- - X-Offender   Probable line-up: Diego Lopez; De Sciglio, Rami, B...   Nov 7 2014, 03:19 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 7 2014, 02:1...   Nov 7 2014, 04:00 PM
- - kurtsimonw   I hate even looking at lineups these days. It...   Nov 7 2014, 03:41 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 7 2014, 03:1...   Nov 7 2014, 05:39 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 7 2014, 05:39 PM) An...   Nov 7 2014, 05:51 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 7 2014, 05:5...   Nov 7 2014, 06:12 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 7 2014, 07:4...   Nov 7 2014, 09:38 PM
||- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ Nov 7 2014, 10:29 PM) Of c...   Nov 7 2014, 10:35 PM
||- - Danny   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 7 2014, 09:35 PM) Bt...   Nov 7 2014, 10:56 PM
||- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ Nov 7 2014, 10:56 PM) Dunn...   Nov 8 2014, 02:44 PM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (Danny @ Nov 8 2014, 12:07 AM) I...   Nov 8 2014, 05:10 PM
- - Rossoneri7   Another chance to push back up the table. Dependin...   Nov 7 2014, 08:28 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Nov 7 2014, 07:28 PM)...   Nov 7 2014, 10:06 PM
|- - Rossoneri7   QUOTE (Danny @ Nov 8 2014, 01:06 AM) Yeah...   Nov 8 2014, 08:06 PM
- - Danny   Best defence we have in Alex's absence is...me...   Nov 7 2014, 10:05 PM
- - han2503   Just looking at that starting line-up I'm actu...   Nov 8 2014, 08:42 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 8 2014, 07:5...   Nov 8 2014, 08:43 PM
- - X-Offender   Bonera is playing on the left. Might as well have ...   Nov 8 2014, 08:48 PM
- - han2503   STEPHANN!!!!! Great goal...   Nov 8 2014, 08:55 PM
- - X-Offender   That was an amazing goal.   Nov 8 2014, 08:56 PM
- - han2503   THAT'S why I never gave up on him! He has ...   Nov 8 2014, 08:56 PM
- - kurtsimonw   622 days without a Serie A goal. Scores past Samp...   Nov 8 2014, 09:03 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 8 2014, 09:03 PM)...   Nov 8 2014, 09:12 PM
|- - kurtsimonw   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 8 2014, 10:12 PM) ...   Nov 8 2014, 09:23 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 8 2014, 09:23 PM)...   Nov 8 2014, 09:27 PM
|- - kurtsimonw   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 8 2014, 10:27 PM) Ar...   Nov 8 2014, 09:50 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 8 2014, 08:27 PM) Ar...   Nov 8 2014, 11:08 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ Nov 8 2014, 11:08 PM) Toni...   Nov 8 2014, 11:25 PM
- - X-Offender   De Sciglio's passing has been abysmal.   Nov 8 2014, 09:19 PM
- - kurtsimonw   lol Mexes   Nov 8 2014, 09:25 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 8 2014, 09:25 PM)...   Nov 8 2014, 09:28 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 8 2014, 09:28 PM) Wh...   Nov 8 2014, 09:30 PM
- - X-Offender   Even Essien has more vision than Honda.   Nov 8 2014, 09:25 PM
- - han2503   1-1 Nice marking Bonera...   Nov 8 2014, 09:30 PM
- - X-Offender   Another poor first half. We can't create jacks...   Nov 8 2014, 09:32 PM
- - han2503   Before that brain fart I was just about to say tha...   Nov 8 2014, 09:33 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 8 2014, 09:33 PM) Be...   Nov 8 2014, 09:42 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 8 2014, 09:4...   Nov 8 2014, 09:47 PM
- - han2503   So terrible on these set-pieces   Nov 8 2014, 09:54 PM
- - han2503   Bonera is getting creamed any time Okaka runs at h...   Nov 8 2014, 09:56 PM
- - X-Offender   I don't care. We beat San Lorenzo, that's ...   Nov 8 2014, 09:59 PM
|- - kurtsimonw   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 8 2014, 10:5...   Nov 9 2014, 08:39 AM
- - han2503   Completely lost the plot Get Essien the f@ck out ...   Nov 8 2014, 10:01 PM
|- - X-Offender   Torres in, the ghost of Honda out.   Nov 8 2014, 10:03 PM
- - han2503   Menez is really starting to p!ss me the f@ckk ...   Nov 8 2014, 10:02 PM
- - han2503   Cannot hold onto the ball for longer than a few se...   Nov 8 2014, 10:04 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 8 2014, 10:04 PM) Ca...   Nov 8 2014, 10:06 PM
- - han2503   Penalty!!   Nov 8 2014, 10:06 PM
- - han2503   Did a Pique there   Nov 8 2014, 10:06 PM
- - han2503   I feel like he's going to miss, he's been ...   Nov 8 2014, 10:07 PM
- - X-Offender   Thank you Mesbah.   Nov 8 2014, 10:08 PM
- - han2503   GOAL!!   Nov 8 2014, 10:08 PM
- - X-Offender   Han, do you realize it's just you and me tonig...   Nov 8 2014, 10:09 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 8 2014, 10:0...   Nov 8 2014, 10:21 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 8 2014, 10:21 PM) It...   Nov 8 2014, 10:22 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 8 2014, 10:2...   Nov 8 2014, 10:23 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 8 2014, 10:23 PM) Li...   Nov 8 2014, 10:24 PM
|- - han2503   Bonera FFS!! Sent off again!!...   Nov 8 2014, 10:27 PM
||- - X-Offender   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 8 2014, 10:27 PM) ...   Nov 8 2014, 10:28 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 8 2014, 10:2...   Nov 8 2014, 10:29 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 8 2014, 10:29 PM) Yo...   Nov 8 2014, 10:31 PM
- - X-Offender   That was a blatant penalty on Torres.   Nov 8 2014, 10:13 PM
- - han2503   FFS!! MENEZ!!!   Nov 8 2014, 10:21 PM
- - X-Offender   Wow, Menez, what an individualistic prick!   Nov 8 2014, 10:22 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 8 2014, 10:2...   Nov 8 2014, 10:24 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 8 2014, 10:24 PM) If...   Nov 8 2014, 10:27 PM
- - han2503   Menez's over-dribbling is so frustrating I ser...   Nov 8 2014, 10:26 PM
- - X-Offender   Samp fans applauding Poli. Nice gesture there.   Nov 8 2014, 10:31 PM
- - han2503   I'm going to go out on a limb here and say tha...   Nov 8 2014, 10:33 PM
- - han2503   Bringing on VG now would be a huge slap to the fac...   Nov 8 2014, 10:35 PM
- - X-Offender   WTF?! Last minutes for MVG?   Nov 8 2014, 10:36 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 8 2014, 10:3...   Nov 8 2014, 10:41 PM
- - han2503   I actually thought we were pretty good in that sec...   Nov 8 2014, 10:40 PM
- - X-Offender   Good draw considering the opponent and that we wer...   Nov 8 2014, 10:43 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 8 2014, 09:4...   Nov 8 2014, 10:54 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Danny @ Nov 8 2014, 10:54 PM) We...   Nov 9 2014, 02:34 AM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 9 2014, 01:3...   Nov 9 2014, 03:42 AM
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|- - Danny   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 9 2014, 02:3...   Nov 9 2014, 04:02 PM
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- - Danny   Yes, other than Pippo. He had one good block early...   Nov 9 2014, 01:31 AM
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- - X-Offender   Derby thread, anyone?   Nov 18 2014, 03:32 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 18 2014, 03...   Nov 18 2014, 09:34 PM


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