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QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 30 2014, 05:54 PM) *
Honda on the right wing, SES on the left, Menez as false nine, Bona as winger.



QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 30 2014, 08:45 PM) *
What Danny said.

Pippo plays players out of position, it's been one of our main rants so far. Honda as winger is the most obvious one, but also Bonaventura as winger and Menez as false nine.

SES isn't played out of position. And if you two don't see the difference between playing Emanuelson on AM or SS and Menez being a little bit more central or a left winger, than seriously...I've no words.

The things Pippo does is what every coach does in a certain way and amount. Menez brought goals and good performances as false 9, what else should we expect? Honda? As I said, Zaccheroni mentioned he can play on the right. I still don't think it's that big of a deal.

QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 30 2014, 05:54 PM) *
Armero hasn't started a single match, Zapata barely plays, Lopez is bizarrely benched.


QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 30 2014, 08:45 PM) *
Secondly, Inzaghi has been giving cold treatment to a few players. Mexes, Armero and Pazzini, to name a few. You know what Pazzini's wife wrote last night on Twitter? "There's no meritocracy at Milan". Indeed, when Pippo keeps playing Muntari or DS while guys like Armero and van Ginkel warm the bench without barely given a chance to prove their worth.


Van Ginkel and Mexes yes. Especially Mexes. Van Ginkel I cannot judge, because his potential is unknown to me and he still hasn't played much for Milan.

But should Inzaghi really bench MDS? I don't think he was that bad. Armero was signed as a backup, he was rejected by Napoli and failed at West Ham; if Pippo doesn't think he's up to it, I can trust he has good reasons - Armero did fail in the past on few occasions.

And really X-O, you mention Pazzini? Honestly?? I mean, had Pippo been playing Pazzini more, you would have ranted on and on how Inzaghi is insisting on an old and shabby has-been. When was the last time Pazzini scored? How many goals did he score last season after his injury? 2? Perhaps 3?

Again, if you guys think that the mentioned examples are similar to Allegri's relationship with various players, Pippo, Pirlo, Dinho being few of many, what's there to say?

QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 30 2014, 05:54 PM) *
I'm sure Han and X will rant at me but to 'erase the years under Allegri' means erasing a Scudetto win and CL appearances.

For his faults, and he made many, before it went sour under him it was an acceptable level - and for me the Club's error was not investing in new players when we won the Scudetto. We had a BIG chance there to affirm our authority and improve a decent team with some really good players like Strootman, Pjannic (we were linked to both). Instead we signed the likes of Mexes - a reasonable defender in his day but never an upgrade to someone like Nesta or Silva. Then a season later we got rid of EVERYONE worth a d*mn.

Yes, the club is at fault as well. Agreed here.

But the Scudetto-Allegri-Milan has been erased already. With the key players gone, there's probably only a bit more of it left then of the Maldini Milan. What however lingered on these years is his mentality, his signature, his way of creating the team's visual and mental appearance. If this is to be changed, we need a coach like Bielsa or van Gaal, someone who brings in experience, know-how, a tested and proven system and a set of new ideas. Expecting the mentioned out of Pippo - also in a short time - is very very unrealistic.
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- han2503   Serie A - Week 9 - Cagliari - Milan   Oct 27 2014, 05:39 PM
- - X-Offender   Don't know what to expect from this game. We h...   Oct 27 2014, 08:52 PM
|- - William405   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 27 2014, 10...   Oct 29 2014, 07:02 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Some changes are bound to be made. Is van Ginkel...   Oct 29 2014, 02:39 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 29 2014, 02:3...   Oct 29 2014, 02:58 PM
- - X-Offender   I see different lineups posted everywhere. Guess n...   Oct 29 2014, 05:08 PM
- - William405   I almost forgot about this for a SECOND!! ...   Oct 29 2014, 07:01 PM
- - Danny   GDS: Lopez, Abate, Rami, Alex, MDS, Muntari, De J...   Oct 29 2014, 07:44 PM
- - Jack Bauer   Abbiati ©; Abate, Alex, Rami, De Sciglio; Bon...   Oct 29 2014, 08:04 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Oct 29 2014, 08:04 PM...   Oct 29 2014, 08:21 PM
|- - William405   QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 29 2014, 10:21 PM) M...   Oct 29 2014, 08:22 PM
||- - han2503   QUOTE (William405 @ Oct 29 2014, 08:22 PM...   Oct 29 2014, 08:25 PM
|- - Jack Bauer   QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 29 2014, 11:21 PM) M...   Oct 29 2014, 08:27 PM
- - William405   Should be more than enough against Cagliari.   Oct 29 2014, 08:22 PM
- - han2503   Rami clears off the line! WTF are they doing?...   Oct 29 2014, 08:49 PM
- - X-Offender   Bonaventura has been utter shite so far.   Oct 29 2014, 09:08 PM
- - han2503   What a f@ck up in defence, why did Abbiati fly out...   Oct 29 2014, 09:10 PM
- - X-Offender   And Abbiati f*cks up again.   Oct 29 2014, 09:11 PM
- - X-Offender   Oh, look, Rami losing his man again...   Oct 29 2014, 09:12 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 29 2014, 09...   Oct 29 2014, 09:14 PM
- - han2503   I want to know why they let him cross there. witho...   Oct 29 2014, 09:13 PM
- - X-Offender   Please someone buy SES from us.   Oct 29 2014, 09:17 PM
- - han2503   Our midfield is totally cut off from our defence w...   Oct 29 2014, 09:19 PM
- - han2503   BONAVENTURA!!!!!!!...   Oct 29 2014, 09:20 PM
- - han2503   Lol! We're so lucky!!!   Oct 29 2014, 09:20 PM
- - William405   Wow.   Oct 29 2014, 09:21 PM
- - X-Offender   HOLY CRAP!   Oct 29 2014, 09:21 PM
- - Jack Bauer   W-H-A-T A G-O-A-L !!!!   Oct 29 2014, 09:22 PM
- - X-Offender   How is that not a yellow card for their #32??? Rid...   Oct 29 2014, 09:25 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 29 2014, 09...   Oct 29 2014, 09:27 PM
- - William405   Lol at that scene: Muntari gets the ball, you can...   Oct 29 2014, 09:27 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (William405 @ Oct 29 2014, 09:27 PM...   Oct 29 2014, 09:28 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 29 2014, 09...   Oct 29 2014, 09:29 PM
- - han2503   Muntari hacking people down while already on a yel...   Oct 29 2014, 09:29 PM
- - han2503   Once again, we do not have the better possession   Oct 29 2014, 09:30 PM
- - han2503   Our attack would be so much better if Pippo made a...   Oct 29 2014, 09:32 PM
- - William405   Why are we punting the ball to Torres like he...   Oct 29 2014, 09:33 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (William405 @ Oct 29 2014, 09:33 PM...   Oct 29 2014, 09:43 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 29 2014, 09:43 PM) B...   Oct 29 2014, 09:46 PM
|- - William405   QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 29 2014, 11:43 PM) B...   Oct 29 2014, 09:48 PM
- - X-Offender   We did played better after we scored, though. Befo...   Oct 29 2014, 09:47 PM
- - han2503   Abbiati's passing has been atrocious today...   Oct 29 2014, 09:59 PM
- - X-Offender   This game could go either way. Both teams are very...   Oct 29 2014, 10:03 PM
- - X-Offender   Has anyone noticed that Honda has become rather se...   Oct 29 2014, 10:08 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 29 2014, 10...   Oct 29 2014, 10:12 PM
- - X-Offender   WTF is wrong with Menez? He's jogging like we...   Oct 29 2014, 10:18 PM
- - han2503   Well it seems we have a pattern down pat. 2 wins 2...   Oct 29 2014, 10:30 PM
- - CrazyMilanFan   what a save   Oct 29 2014, 10:33 PM
- - han2503   Instead of being the ones to try and take initiati...   Oct 29 2014, 10:33 PM
- - X-Offender   Man, what a piss poor performance. We're back ...   Oct 29 2014, 10:36 PM
- - CrazyMilanFan   genoa scored against juve now and unfortunately in...   Oct 29 2014, 10:37 PM
- - CrazyMilanFan   1-1 what a dull second half   Oct 29 2014, 10:39 PM
- - han2503   Another 2 points lost. These are the teams we sho...   Oct 29 2014, 10:40 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 29 2014, 10:40 PM) A...   Oct 29 2014, 10:49 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 29 2014, 10...   Oct 29 2014, 10:59 PM
||- - Danny   QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 29 2014, 09:59 PM) T...   Oct 29 2014, 11:22 PM
||- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 29 2014, 11:22 PM) I d...   Oct 29 2014, 11:34 PM
|- - William405   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 30 2014, 12...   Oct 29 2014, 11:08 PM
- - Danny   Gave up on this one emotionally after we went behi...   Oct 29 2014, 10:51 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 29 2014, 10:51 PM) Men...   Oct 29 2014, 11:02 PM
||- - Danny   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 29 2014, 10...   Oct 29 2014, 11:13 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 29 2014, 10:51 PM) Gav...   Oct 29 2014, 11:15 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 29 2014, 10:15 PM) D...   Oct 29 2014, 11:38 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 29 2014, 11:38 PM) It ...   Oct 30 2014, 12:12 AM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 29 2014, 11:12 PM) I...   Oct 30 2014, 03:41 AM
- - X-Offender   QUOTE Taking on a coach like Zeman is always a ple...   Oct 29 2014, 11:29 PM
- - X-Offender   Meh guys, there's no point in nitpicking at th...   Oct 30 2014, 12:19 AM
- - Fillipo Simone   Maybe one of you guys should be picked as new coac...   Oct 30 2014, 01:58 AM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 30 2014, 01:5...   Oct 30 2014, 02:07 AM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 30 2014, 12:5...   Oct 30 2014, 03:48 AM
||- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 30 2014, 03:48 AM) Sur...   Oct 30 2014, 09:20 AM
|- - Rossoneri7   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 30 2014, 04:5...   Oct 30 2014, 11:29 AM
- - Fillipo Simone   How is that comment defending the team? Nah man,...   Oct 30 2014, 02:57 AM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 30 2014, 02:5...   Oct 30 2014, 03:41 AM
- - X-Offender   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMH8pXsGSR4   Oct 30 2014, 03:40 AM
- - X-Offender   So, apparently Bonaventura wanted to cross and not...   Oct 30 2014, 12:48 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 30 2014, 11...   Oct 30 2014, 01:03 PM
- - X-Offender   He seemed like he was looking at the goal when he ...   Oct 30 2014, 01:31 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   The thing is - what did you expect to happen this ...   Oct 30 2014, 03:18 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 30 2014, 02:1...   Oct 30 2014, 03:54 PM
||- - kurtsimonw   QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 30 2014, 04:54 PM) and...   Oct 30 2014, 04:56 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 30 2014, 03:1...   Oct 30 2014, 06:45 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   And the new poll is here   Oct 30 2014, 03:36 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 30 2014, 12...   Oct 30 2014, 05:48 PM
- - X-Offender   I agree that playing Menez as false nine or Bonave...   Oct 30 2014, 09:12 PM
- - han2503   I tend to agree here with Filippo. I'm not al...   Oct 30 2014, 09:49 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 30 2014, 09:49 PM) P...   Oct 31 2014, 12:00 AM
- - Jack Sparrow   Ok. I'm not getting involved in this discussio...   Oct 31 2014, 07:29 AM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 31 2014, 07:29 ...   Oct 31 2014, 12:39 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 31 2014, 06:29 ...   Oct 31 2014, 01:04 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 31 2014, 01:04 PM) But...   Oct 31 2014, 01:11 PM
- - Rossoneri7   Yeah Jack, but even if Ancelotti came back and bro...   Oct 31 2014, 09:55 AM
- - Danny   I'm not, indeed if you remember my ratings pos...   Oct 31 2014, 04:27 PM
- - Danny   PS: For the Palermo thread (when it arrives) Pred...   Oct 31 2014, 04:30 PM
- - Danny   PPS I'm not a fan of Mexes but it's all bu...   Oct 31 2014, 04:32 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 31 2014, 04:32 PM) PPS...   Oct 31 2014, 08:08 PM
- - acid911   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 1 2014, 01:08 AM) It...   Nov 1 2014, 02:15 AM


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