[Danny]

Strikes me the guy can't cut it as a forward. He doesn't have the touch, the skill, or the confidence.

However it's clear the past season or so that he does good work as a left-sided WB. Basically he supports defence, midfield and attack as an 'extra man'. All on the left.

He gives midfield an extra pair of legs going forward, helps out defence when numbers are down, and gives support to strikers up top.

For me this is his position - a hard-working utility man on the left who's not especially brilliant in any slot so adds to support to the whole left flank.

Thoughts?

[X-Offender]

I don't agree. He's proven in the past that he can score. The problem is that he plays too wide and too deep, i.e. far from the goal. He's not Hazard or Bale that can play the role of the winger/midfielder and still produce results because his dribbling skills are very limited. His touch on the ball isn't impeccable either, and amazing assist against Verona aside, his vision and passing abilities are rather ordinary. In other words, he's not a winger.

At least, that's how I see it. For me, he'd be much more productive in a 2-man attack, playing closer to the goal and relived of any defensive duties.

[Danny]

I don't agree. He's proven in the past that he can score. The problem is that he plays too wide and too deep, i.e. far from the goal. He's not Hazard or Bale that can play the role of the winger/midfielder and still produce results because his dribbling skills are very limited. His touch on the ball isn't impeccable either, and amazing assist against Verona aside, his vision and passing abilities are rather ordinary. In other words, he's not a winger.

At least, that's how I see it. For me, he'd be much more productive in a 2-man attack, playing closer to the goal and relived of any defensive duties.

You've kind of half agreed while disagreeing.

You agree on poor touch, lacking vision, and average passing. These are attributes a SS needs, which is the position you're probably advocating.

I don't think he's shown any attacking quality since November 2012, and that's two years ago.

That's far too long. As you even said yourself, 'up your game son'. Well, I don't think he can in an attacking sense.