[Fillipo Simone]

MoM goes to Abbiati for me. He did two extremely good and important saves in the crucial moment of the match. This is why all ended well and more or less comfortable. Honda, Abate and Alex did also very well.

Flop goes between Muntari, SES and MDS to the latter. I'm sorry, but almost all of Verona's chances in the second half came from his side. He was no-existent when it came to forward help and runs, no real contact with SES either and on top of it no defensive stability. Very poor showing. SES was a letdown again, while Muntari...it's just Muntari, no need to repeat the obvious.

[X-Offender]

Great assist. But yeah, he's very sloppy. He looked much better last season. Based on performances so far, I agree with you that Alex and Zapata should be our starters. Zapata does make the usual brain-fart passing every now and then, but I wouldn't judge a defender based on his passing abilities.

[han2503]

Great assist. But yeah, he's very sloppy. He looked much better last season. Based on performances so far, I agree with you that Alex and Zapata should be our starters. Zapata does make the usual brain-fart passing every now and then, but I wouldn't judge a defender based on his passing abilities.

Zapata makes a crucial passing error in every game, he even made one in every game he played in pre-season

As you said, Rami looked better last season, but I think it was because he was next to Mexes and they have a better understanding with each other since they've been defensive partners before he came to Milan.

I think once him and Alex play a couple of more games together they'll form a really strong pairing.

Zapata doesn't just have an occasional brain-fart, but has them on a consistent basis. I don't trust him or rate him, at all. I still say we should have jumped at the chance of selling him this summer while his price was slightly inflated because of the World Cup.

[Danny]

Zapata makes a crucial passing error in every game, he even made one in every game he played in pre-season

As you said, Rami looked better last season, but I think it was because he was next to Mexes and they have a better understanding with each other since they've been defensive partners before he came to Milan.

I think once him and Alex play a couple of more games together they'll form a really strong pairing.

Zapata doesn't just have an occasional brain-fart, but has them on a consistent basis. I don't trust him or rate him, at all. I still say we should have jumped at the chance of selling him this summer while his price was slightly inflated because of the World Cup.

So, and here's the nub, you seem to want to forgive Rami's constant uselessness on the basis of Mexes potentially parntering him, but refuse to forgive Zaps regardless of who partners him, despite the clear superiority of the Alex Zaps partnership - still our best defensive shift of the season.

[han2503]

So, and here's the nub, you seem to want to forgive Rami's constant uselessness on the basis of Mexes potentially parntering him, but refuse to forgive Zaps regardless of who partners him, despite the clear superiority of the Alex Zaps partnership - still our best defensive shift of the season.

You're talking about just one game

Alex and Rami have started 2 in a row now with only 1 goal conceded. Defensively we've been frail in all the games, even the Lazio one, the problem is mostly the midfield, for the defence the most important thing is continuity, and we're starting to get that now and I'm very happy with it.

For me, Rami is our 3rd best CB, but if Mexes isn't going to start it might as well be him.

And what constant uselessness am I ignoring? I repeated multiple times here and in the match thread that I thought he was our 3rd worst performer against Verona, but he did have a very good second half, even if you don't consider the assist.

Zapata on the other hand usually makes one awful passing or positional error in each game.

Sorry, but I just don't rate him like you do and firmly believe that if he were to start, no matter who he's next to, he'd be making mistakes.

[Danny]

You're talking about just one game

Alex and Rami have started 2 in a row now with only 1 goal conceded. Defensively we've been frail in all the games, even the Lazio one, the problem is mostly the midfield, for the defence the most important thing is continuity, and we're starting to get that now and I'm very happy with it.

For me, Rami is our 3rd best CB, but if Mexes isn't going to start it might as well be him.

And what constant uselessness am I ignoring? I repeated multiple times here and in the match thread that I thought he was our 3rd worst performer against Verona, but he did have a very good second half, even if you don't consider the assist.

Zapata on the other hand usually makes one awful passing or positional error in each game.

Sorry, but I just don't rate him like you do and firmly believe that if he were to start, no matter who he's next to, he'd be making mistakes.

Do we agree on any of the players?

[han2503]

Do we agree on any of the players?

Hmm, De Jong.... Umm, Abate....

Nope, can't think of anyone else tbh. Maybe Honda but you were ready to shove him under a bus this summer and were convinced he couldn't cut it after last season (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)