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Fillipo Simone
post Oct 5 2014, 11:10 AM
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So, not a bad match allover, but for me there are two clear groups of players who played well and those who haven't.

Our fullbacks were top on today. Especially De Sciglio made a few very good passes and runs. Abate - needless to say - was good as well but had minor defensive problems. Alex and Bonaventura did also very well, Menez was okay. It's a bit hard to tell who's MoM because IMO no one was that outstanding. So my vote goes to MDS.

The bad group - starts with Muntari, who would be flop if he hadn't score that great goal that saved him. But my pick will be Rami; too many individual mistakes - unbelievable errors in passing and positioning.

Torres could have done also much more. Honda was okay, but his finishing leaves much to be desired. Nevermind the good free-kick, but he wasted 2 good chances with a bad miss. Nevertheless, a good game.

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post Oct 9 2014, 10:51 PM
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Both of you are correct in a way. But hell, Zaccardo isn't worth the trouble. He's just a bench warmer, not important about him.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 9 2014, 10:51 PM) *
Both of you are correct in a way. But hell, Zaccardo isn't worth the trouble. He's just a bench warmer, not important about him.

You're missing the point, Zaccardo as the person isn't the issue here, what Zaccardo represent is. He's the personification of many mistakes made by this management throughout this last decade in their quest to sign every free agent out there.

Zaccardo alone on his - as you call it - irrelevant 0.8m per season (which still translates to 1.6m per year mind you) might not look all that bad, but when you've had a squad littered with these kinds of players paying them these kinds of salaries and then not being able to sign someone we actually need because we have a grotesque wage bill, IS a major issue.

Also, Zaccardo's current wage might not seem like much when looking at our wage bill as a whole, but look at any other Serie A side's wage bill (a side that would actually want Zaccardo) and see which of them would pay that kind of money to an over the hill CB. None, because that money is what they usually pay to their best player not a Zaccardo level player.

It's why we can never get rid of these guys once we sign them. Of course they don't want to go to another team, they're more than comfortable at Milan earning their big wages and doing nothing but coming into training each day and they also get to enjoy pitch side matches each week so that's also a bonus.

Which again goes back to Zaccardo alone not being a true issue but what he represents is
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post Oct 10 2014, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 10 2014, 10:58 AM) *
You're missing the point, Zaccardo as the person isn't the issue here, what Zaccardo represent is. He's the personification of many mistakes made by this management throughout this last decade in their quest to sign every free agent out there.

Zaccardo alone on his - as you call it - irrelevant 0.8m per season (which still translates to 1.6m per year mind you) might not look all that bad, but when you've had a squad littered with these kinds of players paying them these kinds of salaries and then not being able to sign someone we actually need because we have a grotesque wage bill, IS a major issue.

Also, Zaccardo's current wage might not seem like much when looking at our wage bill as a whole, but look at any other Serie A side's wage bill (a side that would actually want Zaccardo) and see which of them would pay that kind of money to an over the hill CB. None, because that money is what they usually pay to their best player not a Zaccardo level player.

It's why we can never get rid of these guys once we sign them. Of course they don't want to go to another team, they're more than comfortable at Milan earning their big wages and doing nothing but coming into training each day and they also get to enjoy pitch side matches each week so that's also a bonus.

Which again goes back to Zaccardo alone not being a true issue but what he represents is

Indeed, Jack is right. As I said earlier on, we made a error-proof transfer summer market. So why do we dwell on past mistakes?

And yes, I know the answer. You two pessimists are not convinced we turned the page for real. Agreed, we used to shift or go up and down one too many times in the past years, which makes you very inclined to be pessimistic at times.
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- Fillipo Simone   Serie A - Week 6 - AC Milan vs. Chievo Verona   Oct 5 2014, 11:10 AM
- - X-Offender   Top - Bonaventura. Really impressed me yesterday. ...   Oct 5 2014, 11:38 AM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 5 2014, 10:3...   Oct 6 2014, 07:09 PM
- - Jack Bauer   DS and Jack were great but I gave it Honda, not j...   Oct 5 2014, 12:41 PM
- - X-Offender   I reckon Zapata will take his place next week. As...   Oct 5 2014, 12:53 PM
- - amancik   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 5 2014, 08:5...   Oct 5 2014, 03:19 PM
- - X-Offender   Yeah, I know, the guy is very hard to drop at this...   Oct 5 2014, 03:59 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   I don't know guys. I find it a bit funny. You ...   Oct 5 2014, 06:05 PM
- - X-Offender   I remember that Zaccheroni interview. He did say t...   Oct 5 2014, 07:24 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   I think we're all struggling with unrealistic ...   Oct 6 2014, 06:39 AM
- - Danny   Top - Menez - made things happen in the second hal...   Oct 6 2014, 07:11 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 6 2014, 07:11 PM) Top ...   Oct 6 2014, 07:46 PM
- - Danny   Zapata is at his best next to Alex as they can com...   Oct 6 2014, 07:54 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 6 2014, 07:54 PM) Zapa...   Oct 6 2014, 07:57 PM
- - X-Offender   How about we sell everyone and sign two decent CBs...   Oct 6 2014, 10:17 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 6 2014, 10:1...   Oct 6 2014, 10:25 PM
||- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 7 2014, 12:25 AM) I ...   Oct 6 2014, 11:32 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 6 2014, 09:1...   Oct 6 2014, 10:31 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 6 2014, 10:31 PM) Zacc...   Oct 7 2014, 07:56 AM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 7 2014, 06:56 AM) Za...   Oct 7 2014, 12:43 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 7 2014, 12:43 PM) Squa...   Oct 7 2014, 01:47 PM
- - Danny   Zaccardo is a RB.   Oct 6 2014, 10:31 PM
- - X-Offender   Yeah, Zaccardo is a CB nowadays.   Oct 7 2014, 11:42 AM
- - Fillipo Simone   All in all, Zaccardo could be a striker as well, b...   Oct 7 2014, 11:58 AM
- - Danny   When we signed him we had only one RB, Abate, and ...   Oct 7 2014, 03:30 PM
- - X-Offender   I thought Zaccardo's contract expired in 2015,...   Oct 7 2014, 03:38 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 7 2014, 02:3...   Oct 7 2014, 08:05 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   We've already established all these points. B...   Oct 7 2014, 05:50 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 7 2014, 10:50...   Oct 7 2014, 06:32 PM
- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 7 2014, 05:50...   Oct 7 2014, 10:48 PM
|- - Jack Sparrow   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 8 2014, 05:1...   Oct 8 2014, 05:28 AM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 8 2014, 05:28 A...   Oct 8 2014, 09:10 AM
- - Fillipo Simone   Well, considering all our injuries, at one point i...   Oct 8 2014, 10:16 AM
- - Jack Sparrow   ^^ Exactly. When he was purchased he wasn't us...   Oct 8 2014, 10:48 AM
- - X-Offender   A Primavera kid can do the job better than Zaccard...   Oct 8 2014, 12:31 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   I personally feel that entire above argument is ba...   Oct 8 2014, 12:35 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 8 2014, 12:35 P...   Oct 8 2014, 12:42 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   In other words, you demand a club that has no mone...   Oct 8 2014, 02:18 PM
- - X-Offender   Nah Jack, I don't expect a 100% transfer recor...   Oct 8 2014, 03:13 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   We did, didn't we? This singing period was sou...   Oct 8 2014, 03:15 PM
- - Rossoneri7   He didnt do much, Torres and so he's my flop. ...   Oct 8 2014, 09:00 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   I actually believe this setpiece nonsense has aris...   Oct 9 2014, 06:36 AM
- - X-Offender   No, I'm pretty sure we got Zaccardo in exchang...   Oct 9 2014, 11:54 AM
- - han2503   x-off is right, we got Legrottaglie when we were h...   Oct 9 2014, 09:59 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   And I think Filippo's point is that that issue...   Oct 10 2014, 10:47 AM
- - X-Offender   Yes, just because we didn't sign any useless p...   Oct 10 2014, 12:18 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Agreed. But over-analyzing also loses it's sen...   Oct 10 2014, 12:22 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 10 2014, 10:47 ...   Oct 10 2014, 02:22 PM


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