[Danny]

Let's face it, we suck. Pure and simple. It doesn't take 3D glasses to see how utterly terrible this Milan squad and team is, and sadly it's not even a CL contender.

Let's look at each position and judge it.

1: GK - ok we got Lopez. We finally have a decent keeper, it's one area we are now decent in.

2: Defence: fullbacks are good, actually good. Abate, MDS and Armero - it's not quite Zabaleta but then we're not quite Man City. It's still pretty good. CH is absolutely abominable though. There is no clear-cut 'best defender:

We have powerful and aerially dominant Mexes but who lets himself down by being a liability.
We have quick and dynamic Zapata whose concentration could be better.
We have composed and positionally decent Rami who isn't especially good in the air and isn't the strongest.
We have aerially decent Bonera who is good at last-ditch tackles and blocks but is slow and gets caught a lot.
And Alex who is hard to really judge at all.

Impossible to pick the best two or a best pair there.

3: Midfield: De Jong is glorious in DM but that's as good as midfield gets. Essien, Muntari, Cristante, Poli - none of these names excites and some downright terrify. Monto out till November but was absolutely terrible last season anyway.

3: Attacking midfield: Niang keeps showing little signs of improvement, Honda's mince, Menez we haven't a clue about and Saponara is mediocrity personified.

4: Forward: SES - destined to be Pato mark 2 IMO, Balotelli - destined to spunk his talent away with a stinking attitude. Pazzo tries but doesn't fit the Pippo system nor has he been in any sort of form for over a year.

Put this utter mess together and if we can scrape the EL qualifying slot in 6th place I'd be overjoyed. Napoli, Roma, Juve, Fiorentina, Inter and even Parma & Torino are all justifiably ahead of us and half of them are utterly rubbish too.

Pippo has his work cut out but it's abundantly clear his hands are tied and he isn't going to succeed. With that squad, how can he?

[CHU-LIP]

Champions League should be the ambition.

Milan has been destroying itself that much that Juventus has become untouchable, so that leaves Champions League as goal. How can you be satisfied with anything less? Then you can just as well go fully long term, and get rid of everything that's old. Perhaps Milan should be doing that anyway.

Anywho, with this squad, Champions League is not impossible.

[Danny]

Champions League should be the ambition.

Milan has been destroying itself that much that Juventus has become untouchable, so that leaves Champions League as goal. How can you be satisfied with anything less? Then you can just as well go fully long term, and get rid of everything that's old. Perhaps Milan should be doing that anyway.

Anywho, with this squad, Champions League is not impossible.

Yeah it is.

Central defence and midfield are abysmal. Flanks are average. Up front is off-form permanently. And tactically we're a mess.

[CHU-LIP]

------------Lopez

Abate---f*ck knows--f*ck knows---MDS/Armero

------Poli---De Jong--Muntari

Menez--------Balo---------SES

There are bits and pieces of decency but they're offset by giant mediocrity and worse.

Making a line-up which is clearly not our strongest, yeah, then I understand your point of view.

Yeah it is.

Central defence and midfield are abysmal. Flanks are average. Up front is off-form permanently. And tactically we're a mess.

Form and tactics are things that can get better. Will it happen? That's another thing.

[han2503]

Making a line-up which is clearly not our strongest, yeah, then I understand your point of view.

What would that line-up look like in your view chu?

[Danny]

What would that line-up look like in your view chu?

I'd love to know. Can't think of a single stronger player I've missed out.